[Az-Geocaching] energy

[Team Tierra Buena]

A small point, but hybrids do not currently have HOV-lane privileges. See:
http://www.hybridcars.com/carpool_traffic.html.

 

Steve

Team Tierra Buena 

 

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Richard E Holmes Corporation
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:48 AM
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Hybrids are certainly the environmental darling de jour. But, with 10
billion cars worldwide at a median age of four years, if we attain a 50% mix
of hybrids we will be disposing of over a billion very large very toxic
batteries every year. Well, we could try "glassification". Or, how about
developing disposal sites? Yeah, Yucca Flats--great idea.

 

I rented a Chevrolet Aveo about a month ago; I got over 50 MPG. So, if I
were looking for a new commuter car would I buy an $9k Aveo; no, I buy a
hybrid that cost at least 3 times as much, gets half the mileage, but gets a
$4k environmental rebate, no vehicle tax, gasoline tax rebate, gets to use
the HOV lanes, and best of all I get to change out the $2k battery every 50k
miles.

 

I guess those in the current "political know" would say I just don't get it.

 

Creepin' Jeepers 

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From: William Noll <mailto:wnoll at cybertrails.com>  

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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:04 PM

Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] energy

 

Actually, most Americans now support Nuclear Power. The accident at Three
Mile Island, PA was almost 30 years ago (and no one died because of it).
The way plants are built and operated, makes them literally the safest
source of energy today. And the most secure. More radiation is released in
the form of radon by the burning of coal than any nuclear plant has ever put
out. What has really put the damper on new construction is the permitting
process. In the past, a utility / government would first get a construction
permit, then go through the process again for an operating license. New
rules in  the pipeline will allow for a combined construction / operating
permit, and still have all the required hearings and public input. Investors
(the people who crave evil profits by putting up the money to build stuff)
are leery about the two-phase permitting process, because of the possible
stranded investment. 

Interestingly enough, ALL of the new power plants built in the last six
years or so (excluding the little solar and biomass projects) run on Natural
Gas. Don't think for a moment that all this extra demand has not had an
effect on Arizona natural gas prices. A tremendous impact!

The future of energy will be nuclear power plants, with solar and hydro as
the supplemental sources. Cars will run on batteries, probably with very
small gasoline generators onboard for an emergency power source. There
really is NO alternative that is safe, reliable, and cost-effective

 


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Nuclear power is an excellent option, but fear of the unknown has caused
Americans to reject it.  It is widely used in Europe - France is mostly
nuclear powered - but we can't get it past the environmentalists here.  Too
bad, as it is a much cleaner and safer option than coal or oil fired plants.

 

 

 


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