[Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics

Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:27:31 -0700

Brian,

How much total data do you believe is being grabbed from geocaching.com
daily when you were pulling the 'usual' stuff?

Brian
Team A.I.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Cluff" <brian@Snaptek.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics

> I would prefer to just get them let us contiunue to do business as usual.
> They HAD to have made more money on the existance of azgeocaching.com
> than the money they can claim they were loosing if we weren't around,
> not to mention that azgeocaching.com off loads a heck of a lot more
> bandwidth than it's taking up by crawling the official site.
> There have also been a ton of people that wanted to donate to us in the
> past that we just asked to get a membership instead.  Without
> geocaching.com's data our site is very boreing.  Jason and I feel that
> it's in their best interest in let us continue on as usual as I feel
> those same people will probably just not renew their membership in
> protest of us getting shut down potentialy costing geocaching.com
thousands.
>
> I would be open to starting our own deal, but thats just way more work
> and responsibility that I would like to deal with, and it probably
> doesn't have the numbers of people behind it to potentially make it
> profitable, so it would be a TON of time that just HAD to be put into
> it.  Don't get me wrong, I love doing azgeocaching.com, but there are
> some days that I just don't even want to look at it. I wouldn't want to
> run a site that absolutly required maintainace every day without a
> little something extra to make it worth my while, and help pay the
> bills.  Spreading out the site is a good idea, but it doesn't get rid o
> the fact that the site, however small it is would still need to be
> maintained, and having to do a couple of things a day is almost more
> annoying than haveing to do a bunch of things.  Thats always been the
> nice thing about azgeocaching.com, that for the most part, it's been
> self maintaining.  We could spend as much or as little time as our
> schedules dictated, and this time of the year it's been a real blessing
> to not HAVE to babysit a website.
>
> Anyway, I guess it would take some further discussion.
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
> Brian LaFrance wrote:
> > I'm all for starting our own open source version specific to
Arizona...if we
> > could get enough resources together, it might be kind of fun to try.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of Jason
> > Poulter
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:33 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >
> >
> > maybe we should just dump geocaching.com all together and write our own
> > site!!! ;)
> >
> > or at least a distributed database that everyone and anyone could setup
> > and access all over the world with open source code etc...
> >
> > jason
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian LaFrance wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Maybe we could figure out a way to distribute the workload across
several
> >>servers.  I also have a server that I could run the code on.  It may be
> >>something where we could each query a range of cache numbers, user ID's,
or
> >>some other way of breaking the load up.  Not sure if that would help
> >
> > though.
> >
> >>We all may end up banned from scraping data off Geocaching.com...it
could
> >
> > be
> >
> >>a fun project to try though.
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>Team AZEvil
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> >>bcasteel@cox.net
> >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:35 PM
> >>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >>
> >>
> >>That's a good idea, in theory.  However, not every cacher can write code
> >>like the Snaptek guys, nor can everyone understand how to run a script
of
> >>this nature.  If they gave me the code, I'd gladly throw it up on my
server
> >>to run, and all would be happy.  :)
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>Team A.I.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Bob Renner <renner001@yahoo.com>
> >>>Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 05:34:29 EDT
> >>>To: Arizona Geocaching List <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> >>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Suggestion for statistics
> >>>
> >>>Jason,
> >>>
> >>>I realize this would be a total rewrite of your
> >>>statistics gathering software, but it might be a way
> >>>to lessen the load it puts on the geocaching.com
> >>>website.  Instead of crawling the entire data base, go
> >>>to the individual profile pages of Arizona geocachers,
> >>>and get the information from the "User Stats" pages.
> >>>Anyone who wants to have their information included
> >>>into the AZgeocaching web page, would have to tell you
> >>>to include them in your list.  You could still include
> >>>the logs of others on the caches within Arizona.
> >>>
> >>>Another, approach would be for you to provide the code
> >>>for Arizona geocachers to run on their own computers
> >>>to get their basic information from geocaching.com and
> >>>then automatically forward this to you to be compiled
> >>>into one database.  The advantage of this would be
> >>>that the load on geocaching.com would be from multiple
> >>>IP addresses and only when a user knows his/her stats
> >>>need to be updated (i.e. when they have found or
> >>>placed a new cache).
> >>>
> >>>Just a thought that might help get around any blocking
> >>>you are experiencing.
> >>>
> >>>Bob Renner
> >>>
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