[Az-Geocaching] Who Manages What

Regan L Smith listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:37:19 -0700


there is also the fact that a County Park Police should not be telling
anyone what is or is not allowed on NATIONAL FOREST......
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Noll" <wnoll@cybertrails.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Who Manages What


>     Many people in this state are already 'effectively' on such a list,
> based on where they live. Where they live, of course, is by their choice;
> and I made my choice to live half an hour away from the nearest Sheriff
> station (but not for that reason!) I have to provide for my own 'first
> response' in the event of assault / break-in, fire, or natural disaster.
> Pity the soul who 'chooses' to pick me as a target.
>     Obviously this is a touchy topic for some. But the issue is law
> enforcement harassment of geocachers (intentional or not). You should not
> expect to be harassed by a cop / ranger for just 'being' in a certain
place,
> especially when there is no obvious reason you would be approached in the
> first place. My original point was also that since placing a geocache
could
> be construed as 'littering', there are far more significant (and obvious)
> sources of litter than Joe Blow walking around the desert.
>     The bottom line is this: as long as you are 'obviously' not in the
> process of a crime, you do not need to explain yourself to law
enforcement.
> Geocachers should not be put on the spot for 'being'. Since the rules of
the
> game require some form of land agent notification, and geocaches for all
> intents-and-purposes are open (public) and benign, you should not have to
> explain your actions under duress to an uninformed agent of the state.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian LaFrance" <brian@brianlafrance.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Who Manages What
>
>
> > Maybe we could start a "Do not respond" list for people like this who do
> not
> > appreciate the work law enforcement officers are doing.  When someone on
> the
> > list dials 911 because they have an intruder in the house or something
> else
> > that requires a response, the operator could decline service to them so
> they
> > can suffer :).  If you don't think that officers are needed where you
> live,
> > please let me know where it is you live so I can move there tomorrow and
> > enjoy the dreamland you think you live in.  I live in a peaceful
suburban
> > neighborhood, but there is still a need for law enforcement...which
isn't
> > all that officers do (i.e. Locate missing children, help the needy,
> motorist
> > assistance).
>
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