[Az-Geocaching] Virtually Confounded

[GUY ALDRICH]

I have some virtuals myself and have gotten the wrong
answer,I'm happy if they can email something to prove
they were there!The object of my virtuals is just to
get you into the area I want you to see!!I had one in
Tucson where we (my wife and I) answered 3 out of 4
questions, the one we didn't answer we didn't see!The
owner of the cache would not give us credit for it
even though he knew we were there,as far as i'm
concerned he can go %%^^*(*&^&$%@!!!!I'll never do
that cache or any other he puts out!If I were you I'd
just ask the 5th question!
--- Bill Tomlinson <billtomlinson@qwest.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>  
> I have to admit that I sometimes get frustrated by
> the multi-question
> approach.  After all, as you stated, isn't that just
> to offer proof of the
> visit?  I even sometimes avoid virtuals that are too
> complicated.  On the
> other hand, reading back on my log of "Informal
> Introductions" I see that I
> admitted it was one of my favorites.  Doh, never
> admit anything in writing.
> OK, so here's what I would suggest:
>  
> - Update the page with a hint if you can, but don't
> risk losing the listing.
> - Accept the log for difficult situations like the
> visitor if you can be
> sure they actually found it.
> - Require all others to answer all questions, but
> offer personalized hints
> if requested.
> - Above all else, BE CONSISTENT.
>  
> Just my opinion, and it appears you've been down all
> of those paths already,
> so I guess I didn't offer much but confirmation.
>  
> Bill
> CacheLess
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]
> On Behalf Of Team
> Tierra Buena
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:35 AM
> To: Arizona Geocaching
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Virtually Confounded
> 
> 
> 
> Many of you have done our "Informal Introductions"
> virtual cache (GCAB5C).
> For those of you that haven't, it's a very
> kid-friendly hunt that requires
> the seeker to provide us with the answers to five
> questions. Finding the
> answer to the fifth question is a little bit
> trickier than most virtuals, so
> we rated the difficulty at 2.
> 
> I've become surprised by the number of people who
> have sent emails that
> contain either an incorrect answer to question 5, or
> an admission that they
> were unable to find that answer; these cachers then
> log as "finds". The
> cache page states "emailing incomplete or incorrect
> answers may result in
> our deleting your log entry without notice".
> 
> On one hand, the purpose of answering the questions
> to a virtual is to prove
> that the seeker was in the right place. So if you
> get four out of five
> correct, it's pretty obvious the seeker was there.
> And we did let one guy
> skate because he was visiting from out-of-state, and
> had already left town
> when he emailed his answers. But many people have
> returned a second time
> after being told that they got it wrong, and they
> were then able to find the
> correct answer.
> 
> So whaddya think? Should we strictly enforce our own
> rule out of fairness to
> those who have gotten all the right answers or have
> gone back to finish the
> hunt, or should we say "it's only a game" and let
> them take the credit for
> the find? I should point out that finding the
> correct answer to the fifth
> question brings the seeker to a particularly clever
> aspect of this entire
> area, which is why we set the question we did.
> 
> We talked about using only that question instead of
> five, but we followed
> Highpointer's approach to his museum cache series,
> where finding the answers
> to all the questions takes the seeker around the
> entire area, which is what
> we want them to do. We don't want them just running
> in, finding one answer
> and taking off for the next cache.
> 
> We've also discussed raising the difficulty level to
> 3 and/or modifying the
> cache description to state specifically that the
> correct answer to question
> 5 must be submitted, but I'm afraid that making any
> modifications to the
> cache page might result in it's being re-evaluated
> under the current
> guidelines for virtuals, and then we might be forced
> to archive a cache that
> always gets positive log comments.
> 
> We welcome your comments and suggestions, but please
> avoid posting anything
> that might be a spoiler. TIA.
> 
> Steve
> 
> Team Tierra Buena
> 
>  
> 
> 


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