[Az-Geocaching] Utah USFS Wilderness Areas appear to have geocaches
Rob Brinkerhoff
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Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:45:53 -0700
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Because Utah has caches in a WA does not imply that they are
less strict and that Arizona is more restrictive. I know of
several caches in AZ WAs, in particular look at this one
GC3601. I know that caches are banned in Wasatch WAs, ie.,
Lone Peak and Twin Peaks WA, to name a few. It simply
implies that the cache approver approved the cache, whether
they new it is okay or not.
>It appears to me that more caches like these should be
encouraged
Yes, I agree. What I wanted to point out, in a previous
thread, that there is not a global policy of caches in WAs.
That is why I asked the "philosophical" question of what is
wrong with caches in WAs? I was hoping to get a good
discussion going. Maybe if us geocachers can get a common
stance on if we believe it is okay or not to have caches in
these areas we could possibly prevent a global policy
against it.
I feel that it is okay for a cache to be place in a WA if it
does not negatively impact environment or ecosystem in the
WA. This should also be true of most any cache placed in the
wild be it BLM or state trust land or anything else. What is
different about placing a cache on a remote chunk of BLM
land? If one feels that a cache not be placed on WA land,
then should caches not be placed in pristine BLM land or in
the wild, in general?
-Rob (Wily Javelina)
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Akerman
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Utah USFS Wilderness Areas appear
to have geocaches
I have found geocaches in USFS Wilderness Areas in Utah.
It appears to me that there are fewer restrictions on cache
placements in Utah than there is in Arizona. For example,
there is this geocache on the summit of Kings Peak, the
highest point of Utah located in the Uintah Mountains
Wilderness. I found this cache on June 30, 2003.
There is a newer cache atop Gilbert Peak, the second
highest point of Utah, established Aug. 12, 2003. This peak
is also in the Uintah Mountains Wilderness.
It appears to me that more caches like these should be
encouraged, like it appears to me to be the case in Utah,
than prohibited or restricted, as it appears to be the case
in Arizona.
Ken (a.k.a. Highpointer)
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN>Yes, I agree. What I wanted to =
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is why I asked the "philosophical" question of what is wrong with caches =
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on a remote chunk of BLM land? If one feels that a cache not be =
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WA land, then should caches not be placed in pristine BLM land or in the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2><SPAN>-Rob (Wily =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Utah =
USFS=20
Wilderness Areas appear to have geocaches</DIV>
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<DIV>I have found geocaches in USFS Wilderness Areas in Utah. It =
appears=20
to me that there are fewer restrictions on cache placements in Utah =
than there=20
is in Arizona. For example, there is <A=20
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geocache</A> on the summit of Kings Peak, the highest point of Utah =
located in=20
the Uintah Mountains Wilderness. I found this cache on June 30,=20
2003.</DIV>
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<DIV>There is a <A=20
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cache atop Gilbert Peak</A>, the second highest point of Utah, =
established=20
Aug. 12, 2003. This peak is also in the Uintah Mountains=20
Wilderness. </DIV>
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<DIV>It appears to me that more caches like these should be =
encouraged, like=20
it appears to me to be the case in Utah, than prohibited or =
restricted, as it=20
appears to be the case in Arizona.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><STRONG>Ken</STRONG> (a.k.a.=20
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