[Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes
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I know that I am one of the own that do not maintain my cache. Most =
because I can not. So if they go bad I am just letting geocaching .com =
archive them. =20
I remember that back when there were not so many people doing this that =
when a cache was lacking something the people finding it would help =
with the maintain and you would hardly never find a cache with just junk =
in it. If by chance the cache was in bad shape I would take care of =
what ever it needed... there are just so many cache out there now and so =
many find with tn/ln it is sad. Maybe they should be tn/ left a this or =
that.
just my 2 cents
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marc=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes
I would agree - there are some teams that spend lots of time =
maintaining=20
their caches. There are many that don't. I would think the answer =
would=20
be more self maintained by the finders for those teams that do not=20
maintain their caches. I find that many do not post no finds. If we =
all=20
did that, simply by reading the logs, other cachers would know there=20
might be a problem and not waste the time to go there. I know for my=20
caches, if there is a no find, I check on it and post a note letting=20
everyone know that all is ok. So, how do you convince chachers to log=20
the no finds, post notes, and send e-mails to the owners? It seems =
that=20
some think a no find is bad. I think its courtesy to the general =
caching=20
community.
Tamo
Scott Wood wrote:
> At 08:14 PM 4/4/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
>> so what should be done when you find a cache that the owner hasn't=20
>> fixed after being plundered? I mean say 2 teams visit the site a =
week=20
>> apart both stating that the cache is in diss repair or missing and=20
>> the cache owner hasn't responded to any emails or postings to the=20
>> matter??? then what would be appropriate time for fixing a cache???
>
>
> I don't know if there is a good answer for that. I guess it would=20
> have to be case to case. Let's assume that one of my caches was=20
> plundered in late Jan. I would not have been able to taken care of =
it=20
> until late Feb. since I was on an unexpected trip to North Idaho for =
a=20
> family crisis. Not only was I 1500 miles from my cache, but I had=20
> terrible internet connectivity while there, and could hardly check =
on=20
> my e-mail.
>
> Obviously I would want to fix my cache when I arrived back in =
Tucson,=20
> but 1 week would hardly be enough time. On this particular trip, I=20
> could have easily been stuck in Idaho for 6 or 8 weeks instead of =
the=20
> 3.5 I was there.
>
> I just don't know if there is a good answer to this question. =20
> Personally, I don't think that a cache should be allowed to be=20
> archived just by a cacher making a comment to an admin.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
> wood@myblueheaven.com
> www.myblueheaven.com <http://www.myblueheaven.com/>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know that I am one of the own that do =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I remember that back when there were =
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finding it would help with the maintain and you would hardly never find =
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with just junk in it. If by chance the cache was in bad shape I =
would take=20
care of what ever it needed... there are just so many cache out there =
now and so=20
many find with tn/ln it is sad. Maybe they should be tn/ left a this or=20
that.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>just my 2 cents</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>We will be known by the tracks we leave behind</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>I would agree - there are some teams that spend lots of =
time=20
maintaining <BR>their caches. There are many that don't. I would think =
the=20
answer would <BR>be more self maintained by the finders for those =
teams that=20
do not <BR>maintain their caches. I find that many do not post no =
finds. If we=20
all <BR>did that, simply by reading the logs, other cachers would know =
there=20
<BR>might be a problem and not waste the time to go there. I know for =
my=20
<BR>caches, if there is a no find, I check on it and post a note =
letting=20
<BR>everyone know that all is ok. So, how do you convince chachers to =
log=20
<BR>the no finds, post notes, and send e-mails to the owners? It seems =
that=20
<BR>some think a no find is bad. I think its courtesy to the general =
caching=20
<BR>community.<BR><BR>Tamo<BR><BR><BR><BR>Scott Wood =
wrote:<BR><BR>> At=20
08:14 PM 4/4/2003 -0700, you wrote:<BR>><BR>>> so what should =
be done=20
when you find a cache that the owner hasn't <BR>>> fixed after =
being=20
plundered? I mean say 2 teams visit the site a week <BR>>> apart =
both=20
stating that the cache is in diss repair or missing and <BR>>> =
the cache=20
owner hasn't responded to any emails or postings to the <BR>>> =
matter???=20
then what would be appropriate time for fixing a=20
cache???<BR>><BR>><BR>> I don't know if there is a good =
answer for=20
that. I guess it would <BR>> have to be case to case. =
Let's=20
assume that one of my caches was <BR>> plundered in late Jan. =
I would=20
not have been able to taken care of it <BR>> until late Feb. since =
I was on=20
an unexpected trip to North Idaho for a <BR>> family crisis. =
Not only=20
was I 1500 miles from my cache, but I had <BR>> terrible internet=20
connectivity while there, and could hardly check on <BR>> my=20
e-mail.<BR>><BR>> Obviously I would want to fix my cache when I =
arrived=20
back in Tucson, <BR>> but 1 week would hardly be enough time. =
On this=20
particular trip, I <BR>> could have easily been stuck in Idaho for =
6 or 8=20
weeks instead of the <BR>> 3.5 I was there.<BR>><BR>> I just =
don't=20
know if there is a good answer to this question. <BR>> =
Personally, I=20
don't think that a cache should be allowed to be <BR>> archived =
just by a=20
cacher making a comment to an admin.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
Scott<BR>><BR>> <A=20
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