[Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache
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Mon, 09 Sep 2002 16:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
Oh, and I forgot to mention the one virtual that I manage...I made "Arizona State Symbols" so people could have fun looking up the information about AZ... I tried to make it a virtual that was a bit challenging, not just a simple picture. I don't have a problem with people having simple virtuals, (to each his own,) but I like something that takes a little work and is fun too. Have I talked in circles enough? Agh! It's a Monday, sorry!
Trisha
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<DIV><SPAN class=518313816-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well
said, Loran. I am a fairly new cacher, and although I haven't yet hidden a
cache, I have a sizeable supply of empty altoids tins, coffee cans, and old
tupperware at home that I have set aside for Geocaching. I have thus-far not
created a cache, because I'm still trying to learn what sucks and what is
good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518313816-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
example, do people like multiple stage caches? Puzzle caches? For example, I've
been struggling with the "19th Hole" cache for a couple weeks now, but it's a
darn good combination of a multiple stage and puzzle cache, so I'm enjoying it,
even if all the work is only giving me one find. I could have easily gone into
boring parking lots to find caches, but this one interests me much
more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518313816-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>When I
make my caches, I want to show y'all something new, or at least teach you
something about me. I think I will try to make my caches intimite in that way.
But I want to first learn how to do it in a way that is attractive and
entertaining. So I'm planning on finding a ton more first, just to get some
ideas of what is good. I'm not gonna outright copycat anyone, but I might just
"borrow" a few ideas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=518313816-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>What's
the saying? "Imitation is the best form of flattery," or something like
that...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=518313816-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>-FroBro Q-Tip</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>loran
wilcox<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a
good cache<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The best caches are those that introduce you to a
new area. Without these there are many places in Arizona I would have never
seen.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make
a cache good. The good caches are those that someone has put some thought into.
Hiding it in someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache, or making a
game of it with a puzzle or some other twist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The worst caches are the copycats where a person
just feels the need to hide a cache.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am probably the worst one here in the valley at
playing the numbers game but I just have this need to go after any new cache.
And I will go after all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find. Some
are as Cody stated nothing more than "it counts as a find". Some people have
wondered how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been out of work but
beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours they are just too easy
and/or too close together.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I am leaving the area I will not have much
influence on this area but I truly believe that more thought needs to be
put into the placement of geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache
and a simple one near home for the first cache is probably acceptable. But
later hides need to show more thought. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before
you hide a cache to learn some of the tricks. This will make the game more
enjoyable for everyone. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't worry about a
negative karma number. If you look closely the most driven cachers
have the highest negative karma (with exceptions). It doesn't mean a thing. No
one expects you to hide a lot of caches. They only want you to hide good
caches.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Have I said to much?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a
good cache</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Stepping up to soapbox...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cheryl and I visited 14 caches today along with 2 not founds. We
visited some very cool cache sites and a couple that had absolutely no
thought, planning, or creativity involved. These are a waste of
my time, your time, and everyone involved. Yes it counts as a
find, but thats it. I would like to ask our fellow cachers to
please put some thought into their caches. At this rate, we'll have an
altoid tin hidden on every corner of the city. There are countless
magnificent places here in Arizona as well as right here in the valley.
Please seek these out and share them with the Geocaching community.
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<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Stepping down,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Cody</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=440343403-09092002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Team
CBX2</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>WOLFB8<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] what makes a
good cache<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With a increased number of geocacher in Arizona
we have a increased number of people hiding caches. I was just wondering
what people consider a good cache and a cache to just to add to your stats.
I am not looking for names of caches. ( I do not want to hurt anyone
feeling including mine if you think they suck) so if we were to break it
down in to </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for stats only</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>almost good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>good</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will remember this one</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>great</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hopefully this can be a tool for the cacher out
there who want to hide a cache or 2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Libby</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>We will be known by the tracks we leave behind</DIV>
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