[Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache

listserv@azgeocaching.com listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 09 Sep 2002 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT)


well, Jason, Jerry....the address says "listserv". I took the name
from that!
Trisha

On Mon, 09 September 2002, Jason Poulter wrote:

> 
> it is really called an email list server... but peoples is to lazy
and 
> just call it a listserv....  or at least i do anyway...
> 
> jason
> 
> 
> Jerry Nelson wrote:
> > No doubt, the best caches take you to someplace previously
unknown. 
> I've
> > been to caches less than four miles from my home that showed me
> places I
> > never would have been aware of, and I've lived in the same
> neighborhood
> > since 1957!  I also travel to the Midwest every summer and
usually
> take
> > the same route home.  A couple weeks ago I found myself in my
usual
> motel
> > in Chamberlain, South Dakota, where I usually get in with just
enough
> > time to eat, take a shower and fall asleep in front of the TV. 
This
> year
> > there happened to be a cache placed at the edge of town
overlooking
> the
> > Missouri River that took me to a fantastic view of sunset from
an
> old,
> > abandoned railroad track.  It's a place I'll probably return to
every
> > time I find myself in the area.
> > 
> > Geocaching appears to be pretty silly to some people not
involved,
> but it
> > doesn't take long to realize that this is one of main
attractions of
> the
> > game.  I've placed some caches where I think people will like
the
> > surroundings and one which certainly falls in the "stats
only"
> category. 
> > It's sometimes as much or more fun to place a cache as it is to
find
> one,
> > and it's good to keep reminding ourselves to try to put just a
little
> > thought into those we hide.
> > 
> > Here's an off topic question.....not really I guess :o)  What
is the
> > proper word for this thing we're communicating on, a listserv,
> listserve
> > or listserver?
> > 
> > Jerry
> > Offtrail
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:11:31 -0700 "Scott Nicol"
> <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
> > writes:
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "loran wilcox"
<loranwilcox@cox.net>
> >>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >>>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache
> >>>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:22:35 -0700
> >>>
> >>>The best caches are those that introduce you to a new
area. Without 
> >>
> >>these 
> >>
> >>>there are many places in Arizona I would have never seen.
> >>>
> >>>I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make a
cache good. 
> >>
> >>The good 
> >>
> >>>caches are those that someone has put some thought into.
Hiding it 
> >>
> >>in 
> >>
> >>>someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache,
or making a 
> >>
> >>game of 
> >>
> >>>it with a puzzle or some other twist.
> >>>
> >>>The worst caches are the copycats where a person just
feels the 
> >>
> >>need to 
> >>
> >>>hide a cache.
> >>>
> >>>I am probably the worst one here in the valley at
playing the 
> >>
> >>numbers game 
> >>
> >>>but I just have this need to go after any new cache. And
I will go 
> >>
> >>after 
> >>
> >>>all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find.
Some are as 
> >>
> >>Cody 
> >>
> >>>stated nothing more than "it counts as a
find". Some people have 
> >>
> >>wondered 
> >>
> >>>how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been
out of work 
> >>
> >>but 
> >>
> >>>beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours
they are 
> >>
> >>just too 
> >>
> >>>easy and/or too close together.
> >>>
> >>>As I am leaving the area I will not have much influence
on this 
> >>
> >>area but I 
> >>
> >>>truly believe that more thought needs to be put into the
placement 
> >>
> >>of 
> >>
> >>>geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache
and a simple 
> >>
> >>one near 
> >>
> >>>home for the first cache is probably acceptable.  But
later hides 
> >>
> >>need to 
> >>
> >>>show more thought.
> >>>
> >>>For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before you
hide a cache 
> >>
> >>to learn 
> >>
> >>>some of the tricks. This will make the game more
enjoyable for 
> >>
> >>everyone. 
> >>
> >>>Don't worry about a negative karma number. If you look
closely the 
> >>
> >>most 
> >>
> >>>driven cachers have the highest negative karma (with
exceptions). 
> >>
> >>It 
> >>
> >>>doesn't mean a thing. No one expects you to hide a lot
of caches. 
> >>
> >>They only 
> >>
> >>>want you to hide good caches.
> >>>
> >>>Have I said to much?
> >>>
> >>>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)
> >>
> >
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> >>hhhhhhmmmmmmm... what makes a good cache.... "Any cache
that I can 
> >>find is a 
> >>good cache!" :) LOL LOL LOL :)
> >>
> >>Seriously. I agree with Loran's post totally. No one could
have said 
> >>it 
> >>better.
> >>
> >>Team RTW is hoping to get out next weekend to hide our very
first 
> >>cache (!). 
> >>We have 331 cache finds and none hidden. (You want to talk
about 
> >>Cache 
> >>Karma!?) :O  We want our first cache hide to be a special
one. There 
> >>are a 
> >>few places that we want to hide our first cache and we have
been 
> >>waiting 
> >>quite a while to place it utilizing my hot air balloon in a
given 
> >>location. 
> >>However, we have waited this long and the opportunity doesnt
seem to 
> >>be 
> >>around the corner anytime soon. So, we are going to put it
in 
> >>another one of 
> >>those few places. The place we want to hide it is a place we
have 
> >>looked at 
> >>many, many times as we have driven by it and have always
wanted to 
> >>hike to 
> >>this location. There is something at this location that has
always 
> >>interested us. We have never been there so we don't know
what it is. 
> >>But, we 
> >>want to hike there to find out. We are going to put our
first cache 
> >>near 
> >>this location. That gives the cache a reason for location.
There is 
> >>a bit of 
> >>thought needed for us to hide it as well as for those that
will seek 
> >>this 
> >>cache out. As I am kinda 'old school', it will be a
coordinates 
> >>takes you to 
> >>the cache (ammo box) kinda cache. However, the views should
be 
> >>awsome and 
> >>well worth the adventure getting there. Enough said. No more
hints! 
> >>:)
> >>
> >>We will also bring along 2 GPS's to allow each to average
out to get 
> >>the 
> >>best possible coordinates. I will use a Garmin and a
Magellan GPS. 
> >>Hopefully 
> >>we can provide very accurate coordinates. We will then
confirm the 
> >>coordinates using a 7.5' topo as well.
> >>
> >>As far as contents... that is still up for debate. Have a
couple of 
> >>themes 
> >>that we are thinking about. Still deciding which one! :)
> >>
> >>Anyways, these are just some thoughts in my mind I thought I
would 
> >>share 
> >>with those newcomers (without many finds) that are thinking
about 
> >>hiding a 
> >>cache soon. Put some thought into it, know where you are
putting it 
> >>in terms 
> >>of landowner issues and a seekers ability to access the
cache 
> >>location, and 
> >>also take special care to provide the best possible
coordinates.
> >>
> >>On another note: Loran. Sure gonna miss ya' bud! Geocaching
will 
> >>just not be 
> >>the same around here without ya'! Enjoyed the opportunity to
talk 
> >>with you 
> >>at some of the caches we have been at together as well as
our joint 
> >>cache 
> >>hike up to Thompson Peak Cache. I guess this is the only way
I will 
> >>ever 
> >>catch up to you though! :) LOL  I am hoping we can get our
first 
> >>cache hid 
> >>next weekend so just maybe you can get one last cache in
before you 
> >>leave! 
> >>;) We would really like for you to get the first find on it
too! :)  
> >>If not, 
> >>we hope you will get back out Arizona way and visit our
cache 
> >>sometime. 
> >>Enjoy Michigan and I wish you all the best for your new job
and new 
> >>life in 
> >>Michigan.
> >>
> >>Scott
> >>Team Ropingthewind
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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