[Az-Geocaching] More on abandoned Caches
Koch, Dan
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Thu, 16 May 2002 10:34:32 -0700
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FCFF.F05707A0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
It's not that bad of an analogy.
Caches do have a monitoring system; it's called the geocaching.com website.
You automatically get email and can monitor your caches to see if they have
been successfully found or whether they might need to be checked up on.
Anything more than a couple "not found" logs in a row and maybe you should
consider disabling the cache and checking up on it. If your cache is being
found relatively often, that means there's more potential for damage to the
surrounding environment and you should probably check up on it. If you
can't get to it because it's in Timbuktu, ask a local cacher to do it for
you.
The point is that it's someone's responsibility to maintain these items,
whether they are getting paid to do it or whether they do it as a hobby.
Saying that you (in the general sense, not Ken specifically) have more
important things to do than maintain your caches, while probably true, is
blatant neglect. Neglected property is litter.
Sure, we all have lives other than geocaching, but as in all aspects of
society, responsibility for your self and your actions seems to be becoming
something most people don't honor.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Highpointer [mailto:ken@highpointer.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:47 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] More on abandoned Caches
Fedl writes:
Especially considering that usually utility boxes get visited once every
couple of weeks and are actively being monitored 24/7 by remote... I'll bet
you if something happened to that utility box, somebody would be therewithin
24 hours.
This is a poor analogy. It's comparing apples to oranges. First of all,
most of us cannot afford to build a cache that has a monitoring system that
will enable the owner to know its conditions and whereabouts all the time.
Second, it something happens to a utility box, the person who will go out
there is an employee of the owner of the box who is doing his job and thus
is compensated for his time and effort to go out there. On the other hand,
we geocachers are doing this as a hobby, and most of us have some more
important things in our lives than geocaching (i.e. our own jobs, family,
friends, home, education, etc.).
Highpointer
_____
Do You Yahoo!?
LAUNCH <http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://launch.yahoo.com> - Your Yahoo!
Music Experience
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FCFF.F05707A0
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's
not that bad of an analogy.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Caches
do have a monitoring system; it's called the geocaching.com website. You
automatically get email and can monitor your caches to see if they have been
successfully found or whether they might need to be checked up on.
Anything more than a couple "not found" logs in a row and maybe you should
consider disabling the cache and checking up on it. If your cache is being
found relatively often, that means there's more potential for damage to the
surrounding environment and you should probably check up on it. If you
can't get to it because it's in Timbuktu, ask a local cacher to do it for
you. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
point is that it's someone's responsibility to maintain these items, whether
they are getting paid to do it or whether they do it as a hobby.
Saying that you (in the general sense, not Ken specifically) have more
important things to do than maintain your caches, while probably true, is
blatant neglect. Neglected property is litter.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sure,
we all have lives other than geocaching, but as in all aspects of society,
responsibility for your self and your actions seems to be becoming something
most people don't honor.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=795190317-16052002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Highpointer
[mailto:ken@highpointer.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:47
AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Az-Geocaching] More on abandoned Caches<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P>Fedl writes:</P>
<P><EM>Especially considering that usually utility boxes get visited once
every couple of weeks and are actively being monitored 24/7 by remote... I'll
bet you if something happened to that utility box, somebody would be
therewithin 24 hours.</EM></P>
<P>This is a poor analogy. It's comparing apples to oranges. First
of all, most of us cannot afford to build a cache that has a monitoring system
that will enable the owner to know its conditions and whereabouts all the
time. Second, it something happens to a utility box, the person who will
go out there is an employee of the owner of the box who is doing his job and
thus is compensated for his time and effort to go out there. On the
other hand, we geocachers are doing this as a hobby, and most of us have some
more important things in our lives than geocaching (i.e. our own jobs, family,
friends, home, education, etc.).</P>
<P>Highpointer<BR></P>
<P><BR>
<HR SIZE=1>
<B>Do You Yahoo!?</B><BR><A
href="http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://launch.yahoo.com">LAUNCH</A> - Your
Yahoo! Music Experience</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1FCFF.F05707A0--