[Az-Geocaching] Az-Geocaching Digest, Vol 244, Issue 1

Brian Cluff brian at snaptek.com
Wed May 25 13:06:49 CDT 2016


Unfortunately the stats went away years ago after geocaching.com decided 
that the services that we were giving away for free for years conflicted 
with their new features that were similar.
We received letters from their lawyers telling us to stop competing with 
them and when we pointed out that we weren't competing with them, that 
they were competing with us, they blocked our servers from being able to 
reach their servers.

I did managed to pull a last round of stats a couple of years after they 
cut us off and what the stats said was they had killed the geocaching 
community in Arizona and reduced the amount of geocaching going on to 
about 1/10th the rate that is had been going in the past.

The annoying part was that when we were approached about donating money 
to our website we would require that the person first subscribed to 
geocaching.com, so they really shot themselves in the foot money wise...

Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
AzGeocaching.com

On 05/24/2016 02:49 PM, Teresa Price wrote:
> Perhaps I didn't understand how to optimize the site...I didn't know 
> anything about stats, etc.  I sorta depended on geocaching.com 
> <http://geocaching.com> to track 'em. Maybe some "training" in order? LOL
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com 
> <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
>     We are open to any ideas that would pump new life into the site
>     and/or mailing list.  We are to the point that we need to either
>     get things going again or throw in the towel.
>
>     I wish we could bring back the caching stats.  After we were
>     forced to take those off line there was an immediate and gigantic
>     dip in the amount of caching that was going on.... and I miss
>     having to explain what "Cache Karma" was :)
>
>     Brian Cluff
>     Team Snaptek
>     AzGeocaching.com
>
>     On 05/24/2016 10:55 AM, connie stahlman wrote:
>>     I miss this site. It used to be so nice to see what our AZ
>>     cachers were doing - It made us feel like a cohesive group.  I
>>     rarely look at the FB pages.
>>     Orygon connie
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>>       1. List serve (Donna W)
>>       2. Re: List serve (Brian Cluff)
>>       3. Re: List serve (Teresa Price)
>>       4. Re: List serve (Terry Gunn)
>>       5. Re: List serve (heather herrick)
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>>     I haven't been able to see messages for the past month. I'm
>>     trying to figure out how to correct it. Thank you
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>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>     The list has been quite for a while.
>>
>>     Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot to say about
>>     Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>
>>     Brian
>>
>>     On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>     > I haven't been able to see messages for the past month. I'm
>>     trying to figure out how to correct it. Thank you
>>     >
>>     > Sent from my iPhone
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>>
>>     Still subscribed, but most of my caching interaction is via
>>     Facebook, websites, etc.  But thank you!
>>
>>     On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com
>>     <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         The list has been quite for a while.
>>
>>         Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot to say
>>         about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>
>>         Brian
>>
>>         On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>
>>             I haven't been able to see messages for the past month.
>>             I'm trying to figure out how to correct it. Thank you
>>
>>             Sent from my iPhone
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>>     /Teresa (Tess) Price/
>>     /WinePress Group, LLC/
>>     /"...the New Wine is found in the cluster..."/
>>     Caching and connecting on FB. :/
>>
>>     On Mon, May 23, 2016, 12:51 PM Teresa Price
>>     <tnprice0424 at gmail.com <mailto:tnprice0424 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Still subscribed, but most of my caching interaction is via
>>         Facebook, websites, etc.  But thank you!
>>
>>         On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff
>>         <brian at snaptek.com <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             The list has been quite for a while.
>>
>>             Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot to
>>             say about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>
>>             Brian
>>
>>             On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>
>>                 I haven't been able to see messages for the past
>>                 month. I'm trying to figure out how to correct it.
>>                 Thank you
>>
>>                 Sent from my iPhone
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>>     I just signed up. Totally new to all of it. Would love any tips,
>>     helpful info, websites or wherever is the hot spot to begin.
>>     Thanks in advance!
>>
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>>     On May 23, 2016, at 12:52 PM, Teresa Price <tnprice0424 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:tnprice0424 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>     Still subscribed, but most of my caching interaction is via
>>>     Facebook, websites, etc.  But thank you!
>>>
>>>     On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com
>>>     <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         The list has been quite for a while.
>>>
>>>         Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot to
>>>         say about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>>
>>>         Brian
>>>
>>>         On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>>
>>>             I haven't been able to see messages for the past month.
>>>             I'm trying to figure out how to correct it. Thank you
>>>
>>>             Sent from my iPhone
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>>>
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>>>     /"...the New Wine is found in the cluster..."/
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>>     There's still 600+ people on this mailing list for anyone willing
>>     to post messages to them.
>>
>>     Brian Cluff
>>     AzGeocaching.com
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>>     On 05/23/2016 12:55 PM, Terry Gunn wrote:
>>>     Caching and connecting on FB. :/
>>>
>>>     On Mon, May 23, 2016, 12:51 PM Teresa Price
>>>     <tnprice0424 at gmail.com <mailto:tnprice0424 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Still subscribed, but most of my caching interaction is via
>>>         Facebook, websites, etc.  But thank you!
>>>
>>>         On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff
>>>         <brian at snaptek.com <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             The list has been quite for a while.
>>>
>>>             Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot
>>>             to say about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>>
>>>             Brian
>>>
>>>             On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>>
>>>                 I haven't been able to see messages for the past
>>>                 month. I'm trying to figure out how to correct it.
>>>                 Thank you
>>>
>>
>>     I cannot "like" azgeocaching.com <http://azgeocaching.com> to
>>     Facebook.  There are several items posted daily to this site on
>>     fb per others who access it daily through fb, but when I ask fb
>>     to search for this group it says there is no such group.
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>     > On May 23, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com
>>     <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > The list has been quite for a while.
>>     >
>>     > Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot to say
>>     about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>     >
>>     > Brian
>>     >
>>     >> On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>     >> I haven't been able to see messages for the past month. I'm
>>     trying to figure out how to correct it. Thank you
>>     >>
>>     >> Sent from my iPhone
>>     >> ____________________________________________________________
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>>     > ____________________________________________________________
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>>
>>     Only 600....
>>
>>
>>     Sent from my Samsung Galaxy TabĀ®4
>>
>>
>>     -------- Original message --------
>>     From: Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com> <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>
>>     Date: 05/23/2016 1:10 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>     To: listserv at azgeocaching.com <mailto:listserv at azgeocaching.com>
>>     Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] List serve
>>
>>     There's still 600+ people on this mailing list for anyone willing
>>     to post messages to them.
>>
>>     Brian Cluff
>>     AzGeocaching.com
>>
>>     On 05/23/2016 12:55 PM, Terry Gunn wrote:
>>>     Caching and connecting on FB. :/
>>>
>>>     On Mon, May 23, 2016, 12:51 PM Teresa Price
>>>     <tnprice0424 at gmail.com <mailto:tnprice0424 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Still subscribed, but most of my caching interaction is via
>>>         Facebook, websites, etc.  But thank you!
>>>
>>>         On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Brian Cluff
>>>         <brian at snaptek.com <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             The list has been quite for a while.
>>>
>>>             Is anyone caching anymore?  Or is there just not a lot
>>>             to say about Geocaching that hasn't already been said.
>>>
>>>             Brian
>>>
>>>             On 05/23/2016 10:38 AM, Donna W wrote:
>>>
>>>                 I haven't been able to see messages for the past
>>>                 month. I'm trying to figure out how to correct it.
>>>                 Thank you
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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