[Az-Geocaching] Proposed changes to Coronado national forest roads

[Brian Casteel]

The whole dragging deadfall across the road to prevent travel is something
that our club does to kill rogue ATV trails, with the blessing of the
national forest staff we work with in doing trail maintenance on our club
adopted trails, such as the Morrison.

http://tinyurl.com/dfj576

We've done similar and larger stuff, winching trees far too heavy to move,
and have been back a year or two years later and found the trails we blocked
nearly completely healed.  Apparently, ethical riders/drivers aren't lazy,
but the rogue riders sure as hell are.  :)

Brian
Team A.I.


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[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Jason
West
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 18:31
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Proposed changes to Coronado national forest
roads

I have seen roads in Coconino National Forest that were closed and they
could not be walked on.  that is because they ripped the road with a dozer
and cut trees down and dragged them across the road.  see attached.  this
causes much more impact then just simply closing the road.  Most of these
roads that are closed should not be closed at all.
it is already there and driving down them does not really cause any real
harm.  close a road like the picture attached and not only is it closed to
us the taxpayers but firefighters cant even get in there.
j


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:10 PM , AZcachemeister wrote:

> I don't know if the longest road slated to be closed leads to a cache
> or not, but an extra 0.77 mile hike on a closed road (assuming we can
> walk on the 'closed road') would only add about a half star for
> terrain, IMNSHO.
>
> ACM
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> ShadowAce wrote:
>> Sent to the AZList as well as AZPaul, Carmel, Bugmann, Cog&Gil and
>> HornyToad...
>> (Please resend to friends who use the forest roads of the Coronado
>> national forest)
>>
>>  I was contacted by a friend today with questions about some of the
>> forest service roads inn the Catalina mountain range and whilee
>> speaking with different rangers, I was informed that a scoping change
>> is in affect.
>>
>>  For all those interested, the public has until April 15th to comment
>> it appears.. As such, if you have feelings on this or know friends
>> and family in the area, please help spread the word.
>>
>>
>> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/travel/proposed-change-scoping-03112
>> 009.pdf This is a link to the PDF file which explains the changes
>>
>>
>> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/travel/scrd-scoping-notice-03112009.
>> shtml This is the link to the webpage which discusses the topic.
>>
>>  I already know of one cache that will be a bit more difficult to
>> reach if one of the roads gets decommissioned. Simply means a longer
>> walk, but cache owners may want to know (I emailed them directly as
>> well).
>>
>>  Please help spread the word.. The rangers were nice enough to point
>> this out to me and I ask that you help let others know.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> ShadowAce / Dirk
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