[Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s

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Tue Nov 14 09:53:27 MST 2006


The higher the frustration while searching : ( , the greater the satisfaction once it is found. :D

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-----Original Message-----
From:  Brian Casteel
Date:  11/14/06 9:40
To:  listserv at azgeocaching.com
Subj:  Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s

Your last sentence made me chuckle.  When my It.Has You cache was out in
Bulldog Canyon, anytime I needed to stop by and do something with the cache,
it usually took me a good 20 minutes to find my own cache, since all those
flippin' rocks looked the same.  The FTF on that cache stayed up for 48
hours straight watching the movie to get the clues and was absolutely
ecstatic when he logged his find.  But yeah, it is a good feeling when
someone makes repeated visits to your cache in order to find it, but at the
same time I almost feel bad for the level of frustration I know I can
inflict.  Look at my Perplexity cache if you want an idea of that.

 

Brian

Team A.I.

 

 

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From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of EMa
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:20 AM
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s

 

Well I guess we all cant be perfect.   Its a shame that some people never
experience a DNF.  What a feeling to know that someone hid such a good cache
that you need to come back a 2nd and 3rd time just to find it.

On 11/14/06, Ford, Denny <denny.ford6 at honeywell.com> wrote: 

Ok I will finally pipe in,
If you are a good Geocacher, if you get within 25 feet of the cache you
can find it, does not matter the tools, it is the skill of the cacher. 
For the Amateurs who actually need the GPS to find the cache I feel
sorry for you.

Denny Ford,  Tres Hombres



-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
loranwilcox at chartermi.net
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:33 PM
To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
Cc: Guy Aldrich
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s 

Still nice to have the Discriptions and Past Logs so I would give up on
the PDA.

Team Sand Dollar

---- Guy Aldrich <graldrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen 
> under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist
> 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero
> quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really 
> don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full
> name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint.
>
> On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel <bcasteel at uccinc.net > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't recall having problems like that in most cases.  In fact,
often
> > times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look over 
to the
> > GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis.  If it happens to
get no
> > closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent
overall.
> > Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over 
Magellan.  The
> > most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software
options
> > Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options.  Of
course, with
> > the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better 
with the
> > new SeRF chip.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Team A.I.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________ 
> >
> >
> > From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto: <mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com>
az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
> > Behalf Of Cordell Harris
> >  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM
> >  To: listserv at azgeocaching.com 
> >  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OK Scott.  Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity to
compare
> > the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each other
while
> > doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US.  In my
original
> > missive a forgot about the emap unit.  The units we used are the 
Garmin
> > Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans
were all
> > Sportrack Pros.  We seem to keep dropping them!  Maybe I should also
note
> > that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins the 
Etrex
> > Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy.  All the others
have/had
> > serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale.  These
errors are
> > consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable 
cachers.
> > We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established
scientifically
> > by standards.  The  3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect
replicas and
> > were dead on.  I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore 
results.
> > Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow exchange
of
> > waypoints but not maps.  What I would like to be able to do is use
Delorme
> > topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with 
Garmin
> > waypoint symbols.  My backhand at Garmin is simply because they are
the
> > industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get to
set the
> > trend.  Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very adequate 
for
> > geocaching.  I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx
for a
> > eXplorist 500.  There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except the
offset
> > mentioned above.
> > 
> >
> > On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind <arizcowboy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  >From: "Cordell Harris" < cordh5 at gmail.com <mailto:cordh5 at gmail.com> >
> >
> >  >Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more
sensitive
> >  >and accurate.  If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a
Magellan
> >  >Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and
an etrex
> >  >legend vista cx.
> >
> >  The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap. Upgrade 
to the
> > new
> >  60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I do
not
> >  beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single
> > geocache
> >  or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates
could be off
> >  for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different
readings on
> >  where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a 
waypoint
> >  and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to
leave it
> >  there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many
inexperienced
> >  cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont 
allow the
> > GPS
> >  to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more and
then
> >  come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do this
with two
> >  units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate. 
> >
> >  Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently
accurate. They
> >  will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or less.
Do the
> >  example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their job 
well
> >  enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with there
still
> >  being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the example
above
> >  several times to average your results out to truly see which unit 
is
> > better.
> >  Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are
accurate
> >  enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking
waypoints,
> >  then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is 
> > ancient!
> >  and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a little
hole in
> >  the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week
later to
> >  find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit 
with a 12
> >  channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and
built-in quad
> >  helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin
60csX).
> >  Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that 
matter. But
> >  the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific point
more
> >  consistantly.
> >
> >  >Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't 
like the
> >  >strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software.  We
badly
> >  >need mapping software that will function universally in
>handhelds.
> >
> >  Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use proprietary 
mapping
> >  software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive both
Magellan
> >  and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be
used for
> >  mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping 
software, but
> >  only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and
not maps.
> >  If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping
software
> >  (Mapsend or Mapsource). 
> >
> >  Scott
> >  Team Ropingthewind
> >
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