[Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s

Mon Nov 13 20:18:41 MST 2006

I concur - I LOVE my 60csx. This is a unit with GREAT reception. That 
being said, it is also a lot more expensive than the other units.

What I was really complaining about was the STUPID decision by SOME JERK 
who did not put a PC interface on a GPS. What kind of  idiotic decision 
was that? It basically makes the unit completely, totally without value.

And, then I found this site:
http://rhamphorinkx.newmail.ru/connect.htm
And this ebay site:
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-data-cable-for-Magellan-eXplorist-100-200-300_W0QQitemZ200045702470QQihZ010QQcategoryZ94874QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

So, it might have an interface available for it. But, it is pretty ugly.

Guy Aldrich wrote:
> I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen
> under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist
> 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero
> quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really
> don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full
> name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint.
>
> On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel <bcasteel at uccinc.net> wrote:
>   
>>
>>
>> I don't recall having problems like that in most cases.  In fact, often
>> times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look over to the
>> GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis.  If it happens to get no
>> closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent overall.
>> Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over Magellan.  The
>> most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software options
>> Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options.  Of course, with
>> the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better with the
>> new SeRF chip.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Team A.I.
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>> From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
>> [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
>> Behalf Of Cordell Harris
>>  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM
>>  To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>>  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
>>
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>> OK Scott.  Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity to compare
>> the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each other while
>> doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US.  In my original
>> missive a forgot about the emap unit.  The units we used are the Garmin
>> Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans were all
>> Sportrack Pros.  We seem to keep dropping them!  Maybe I should also note
>> that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins the Etrex
>> Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy.  All the others have/had
>> serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale.  These errors are
>> consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable cachers.
>> We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established scientifically
>> by standards.  The  3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect replicas and
>> were dead on.  I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore results.
>> Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow exchange of
>> waypoints but not maps.  What I would like to be able to do is use Delorme
>> topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with Garmin
>> waypoint symbols.  My backhand at Garmin is simply because they are the
>> industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get to set the
>> trend.  Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very adequate for
>> geocaching.  I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx for a
>> eXplorist 500.  There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except the offset
>> mentioned above.
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind <arizcowboy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  >From: "Cordell Harris" <cordh5 at gmail.com>
>>
>>  >Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more sensitive
>>  >and accurate.  If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a Magellan
>>  >Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and an etrex
>>  >legend vista cx.
>>
>>  The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap. Upgrade to the
>> new
>>  60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I do not
>>  beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single
>> geocache
>>  or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates could be off
>>  for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different readings on
>>  where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a waypoint
>>  and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to leave it
>>  there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many inexperienced
>>  cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont allow the
>> GPS
>>  to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more and then
>>  come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do this with two
>>  units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate.
>>
>>  Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently accurate. They
>>  will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or less. Do the
>>  example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their job well
>>  enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with there still
>>  being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the example above
>>  several times to average your results out to truly see which unit is
>> better.
>>  Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are accurate
>>  enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking waypoints,
>>  then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is
>> ancient!
>>  and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a little hole in
>>  the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week later to
>>  find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit with a 12
>>  channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and built-in quad
>>  helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin 60csX).
>>  Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that matter. But
>>  the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific point more
>>  consistantly.
>>
>>  >Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't like the
>>  >strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software.  We badly
>>  >need mapping software that will function universally in >handhelds.
>>
>>  Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use proprietary mapping
>>  software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive both Magellan
>>  and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be used for
>>  mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping software, but
>>  only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and not maps.
>>  If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping software
>>  (Mapsend or Mapsource).
>>
>>  Scott
>>  Team Ropingthewind
>>
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