[Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s

loranwilcox at chartermi.net loranwilcox at chartermi.net
Mon Nov 13 12:33:26 MST 2006


Still nice to have the Discriptions and Past Logs so I would give up on the PDA.

Team Sand Dollar

---- Guy Aldrich <graldrich at gmail.com> wrote: 
> I have to say the Garmin 60CSX is the most accurate unit I've seen
> under all conditions and I have a Magellan meridian and a explorist
> 210. With that new Cirf chip it seems to get you to ground zero
> quicker . The explorist 210 has the most bang for the buck,You really
> don't need a PDA because it displays type of container,full
> name,terrain,difficulty,date last found and the full hint.
> 
> On 11/13/06, Brian Casteel <bcasteel at uccinc.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't recall having problems like that in most cases.  In fact, often
> > times while sitting on my butt writing my cache log, I'll look over to the
> > GPS and watch it flirt with 0' on a regular basis.  If it happens to get no
> > closer than 5' on a cache, I'd consider that quite excellent overall.
> > Magellan has advantages over Garmin and likewise Garmin over Magellan.  The
> > most obvious between the 2 is the abundance of mapping software options
> > Garmin has available to the very limited Magellan options.  Of course, with
> > the newer gen Garmin units, satellite acquisition is much better with the
> > new SeRF chip.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Team A.I.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com] On
> > Behalf Of Cordell Harris
> >  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:06 AM
> >  To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
> >  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Am I missing something - Magellen 200s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OK Scott.  Did I fail to mention that we have had the opportunity to compare
> > the performance of (7) seven Magellan and Garmins against each other while
> > doing something like 500 plus caches all over the US.  In my original
> > missive a forgot about the emap unit.  The units we used are the Garmin
> > Emap, 76CS, Etrex Legend, Etrex Legend Vista Cx. The 3 Magellans were all
> > Sportrack Pros.  We seem to keep dropping them!  Maybe I should also note
> > that none of the units failed operationally. Of all the Garmins the Etrex
> > Legend is the best, e.g. sensititivy and accuracy.  All the others have/had
> > serious errors of 7 to 10 ft on the high resolution scale.  These errors are
> > consistent with caches that were placed by careful knowledgeable cachers.
> > We have also had opportunity to compare waypoints established scientifically
> > by standards.  The  3 Magellan Sportrack Pros were all perfect replicas and
> > were dead on.  I am not hostile toward Garmin, but cannot ignore results.
> > Both mapsource and mapsend topos (I have both) will allow exchange of
> > waypoints but not maps.  What I would like to be able to do is use Delorme
> > topo maps (superior) in either or both brands of receivers with Garmin
> > waypoint symbols.  My backhand at Garmin is simply because they are the
> > industry leaders in terms of sales and promotions and for now get to set the
> > trend.  Magellan Sportrack Pros are a great deal and very adequate for
> > geocaching.  I repeat my offer to trade the etrex legend vista Cx for a
> > eXplorist 500.  There is nothing wrong with the vista Cx except the offset
> > mentioned above.
> >
> >
> > On 11/13/06, Roping The Wind <arizcowboy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  >From: "Cordell Harris" <cordh5 at gmail.com>
> >
> >  >Magellan has better, more user friendly receivers that are more sensitive
> >  >and accurate.  If >unconvinced, try caching with the owner of a Magellan
> >  >Sportrack Pro. Presently, we own two >Garmins a etrex legend and an etrex
> >  >legend vista cx.
> >
> >  The etrex line uses a patch antenna, which IMHO, is crap. Upgrade to the
> > new
> >  60CSX and you will probably never see anything more accurate. I do not
> >  beleive that you can compare two GPS units for accuracy on a single
> > geocache
> >  or any geocache for that matter. The cache owner's coordinates could be off
> >  for one. Also, both your GPS units will give slightly different readings on
> >  where the cache is supposed to be. To find true accuracy, take a waypoint
> >  and mark it with your GPS. Of course, with any GPS, you have to leave it
> >  there for a few minutes for a most accurate reading (too many inexperienced
> >  cachers hide a cache, hit mark on their GPS and leave and dont allow the
> > GPS
> >  to average location). Now, walk away a few hundred feet or more and then
> >  come back to ground zero and see where your GPS takes you. Do this with two
> >  units that you want to compare and see which one is most accurate.
> >
> >  Of course, as Loran said, all GPS's these days are decently accurate. They
> >  will all take you to a waypoint and get you within 30 feet or less. Do the
> >  example above once and you will find that both GPS's did their job well
> >  enough. If you want to find truly which unit is better, with there still
> >  being slight errors in GPS's, you will still need to do the example above
> >  several times to average your results out to truly see which unit is
> > better.
> >  Seems nit picky. Well it is... as I just said, all GPS's are accurate
> >  enough. Still, if you want a GPS for just geocaching or marking waypoints,
> >  then a patch antenna Etrex or a Magellan GPS Blazer 12 (now that is
> > ancient!
> >  and I have one too) is all you need. If you want to mark a little hole in
> >  the ground that an ant just went in to and then come back a week later to
> >  find it... then you need to spend the bigger dollars for a unit with a 12
> >  channel SiRFstar III high-sensitivity (WAAS-enabled) chip and built-in quad
> >  helix antenna, with external antenna connection (like the Garmin 60csX).
> >  Either units will get you to a geocache or any point for that matter. But
> >  the latter technology will, on average, get you to a specific point more
> >  consistantly.
> >
> >  >Garmins are overpriced/overrated and as industry leaders don't like the
> >  >strangle hold they maintain >on proprietary mapping software.  We badly
> >  >need mapping software that will function universally in >handhelds.
> >
> >  Correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt Magellan also use proprietary mapping
> >  software? (Mapsend). I could be wrong on this, but I beleive both Magellan
> >  and Garmin have their own specific mapping software that must be used for
> >  mapping. I think both brands will accept some other mapping software, but
> >  only for uploading and transfering of waypoints, tracks, etc and not maps.
> >  If you want maps in your unit, you have to use their own mapping software
> >  (Mapsend or Mapsource).
> >
> >  Scott
> >  Team Ropingthewind
> >
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