[Az-Geocaching] http://www.terracaching.com/

[Steven Stringham]

Ok. Like I said, I mostly joined TC out of curiosity. You can't really 
see what is there until you are actually sponsored. And I am not excited 
by what I see so far.

Yes, GC is a bit of a monopoly. But, it is open to find out what is 
going on even before signing up. (You can see what caches are there!). 
That also lets land managers search in their areas without 
"sponsorship". I do kinda have a bit of a problem with the idea that 
caches could be placed on TC and the land manager can't find out about 
it. (Can we cache in the McDowell Preserve?).

I do have some problems with the new set of rules. I would like some way 
for moving caches to be allowed again. Reverse virtuals were cool 
(Yellow Jeep Fever). I love (and my family does) virtuals. The example 
given me by Artemis in the heart of DC of virtuals gone bad I think is a 
bad one. DC is the one place in the country where virtuals should go 
nuts! But, yes, they should be of some quality level.

I do think the rules on density may be a bit too restrictive, but not by 
much.

My real question is, how can we work from within GC to change some of 
this. If posting on a Forum the answer? Is Jeremy the "benevolent 
dictator"? Does he listen to our concerns, or has he made up his mind, 
and there is no appeal? I don't know the answer to this question.

I do know we support GC with our subscriptions, and purchases (TB tags, 
etc.) and activity. It really is a good site, generally. And the 
programming does keep getting better. I do wish the site would open up 
to places like AZGC for local support. (Thanks AZGC for all you do!)

I think your beef is with the tougher rules. Am I right? So, is there an 
appeals process? A virtual petition drive perhaps?  What does Jeremy 
listen to?

Steven Stringham
StringCachers



Guy Aldrich wrote:

>I think Geocaching com the monopoly needs some competition!Do you disagree?
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>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:42:19 -0700, Steven Stringham
><sstringh at stringham-family.org> wrote:
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>>Ok. There are TWO (2) caches in AZ. And 58 In Montana (Land of the COLD!
>>Yeah, I know it's nice in the summer.). And I counted some 12 AZ cachers
>>now members. Most (like myself I guess) out of curiosity.
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>>Thanks to AZJedi and Cacheless (and an offer from Guy!) for sponsorship.
>>I did not take the immediate offer from the only one with terracaches in
>>AZ (as soon as I signed on!) (not an AZ Cacher).
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>>The two AZ caches available will NOT be visited by me any time soon.
>>They are both in Northern AZ, and I don't have plans that way in the
>>coming months. So, if caches on this site are place, I guess they better
>>be hidden by this bunch of 12. Also, both caches are virtuals. One on
>>Navajo land, the other on the edge of the canyon.
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>>So, Guy. Why? Is it a desire to be able to place the caches without
>>Artemis involvement? Or without Jeremy's rules? Is this in rebellion to
>>the newer tougher stance coming out of Seattle. So, a rebellion is in
>>order? (as I kinda stated in a previous post, which nobody seems to have
>>addressed - whine, whine - any cheese available?).
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>>I did notice in the "rules" or agreement an absolute statement that
>>sites like AZGC.com would not be able to harvest data from the site. I
>>found that an interesting way to start out.
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>>Steven Stringham
>>StringCachers
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>>Brian Casteel wrote:
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>>>Not letting Jeff off the hook, I wanted to add in something before
>>>addressing Guy.  When it's 125 and burning down there, it'll be a
>>>breezy 85 or so up here.  :)  It's supposed to be 72 tomorrow.  Guy,
>>>did you happen to see where terracaching.com is based?
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>Team A.I.
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>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "AzRockhound" <azrockhound at cox.net>
>>>To: <listserv at azgeocaching.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:52 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] http://www.terracaching.com/
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>>>>I logged on to TerraCaching to see what they were doing, got two
>>>>sponsors
>>>>without asking immediately.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>>>[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces at listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>>>Steven Stringham
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:18 PM
>>>>To: listserv at azgeocaching.com; Guy Aldrich
>>>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] http://www.terracaching.com/
>>>>
>>>>So, a number AZ Cachers starts to move on to Terracaching. It looks like
>>>>about 1300 total members so far... I wonder how many caches?
>>>>
>>>>Anyone willing to sponsor me?
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