[Az-Geocaching] Mo' bettah caches!

Mon Mar 7 16:16:52 MST 2005

I did not mean to imply that all in the light pole etc caches were lame. There are a couple of series that are rather humorous and fun (My favorite drinking hole, welcome to (a town) and my kind of cache come to mind). I was refering to someone who just stuck one in a bush in a well landscaped fragment of a home development that will disappear after only a few tries once the landscapers return for their weekly cutting and clean up.....and those caches that are not clever or pretty, or interesting in the least but are stuck under a trashcan. A cache that is a 1/1 is not lame by definition. I do not want to discourage anyone from placing caches. I learned fast when I placed my first caches. Some were rather lame. It would be nice tho to try and encourage improvement of caches if we can. For the record, I love urban micros. Often we like to get easy ones, to make up for the nuisance of the dnf's on tougher caches. Sometimes we like easy ones just because we want an easy casual day of
 caching. Here is a list of good urban easy caches I give out to new cachers or those who are visiting the valley. (With a couple of harder ones on the list.) There are many more we enjoyed that are not on this list. 

I guess what Im saying in an overly long winded way is.....I would like to see cache quality improve so that the majority of caches that come online are a nice variety of difficulty, terrain, and fun. Perhaps part of the reason they havent been as exciting lately is that many cachers are discouraged from placing caches any more with recent interactions with gc.com. I know I have been feeling like that myself. Or maybe it is just gas prices keeping people from setting caches. 

Thanks for letting me rant.

Wogun1 <wogun1 at cox.net> wrote:

Warning! Newby speaking. (Sort of: 6 months caching, 199 found)

I can see that for some of you who have been around a while and/or have high numbers of caches, the lame urban "been there, done that" caches could get to be a nuisance. Seeking mo'bettah, mo'interestin', mo'challengin' caches is normal. But, I have to tell you, I learned to do this sport--hobby--activity turned obsession-- on those easy urban hides. We had a GPS for two years before we started caching and had used it only to keep from getting lost on long Colorado trails. To actually use it to find a set of coordinates which lead to a light pole in a parking lot was a new experience. I can still remember shaking my head in disbelief the first time we drove all the way across town to look under a mail box and find an altoids container! I was thrilled! Same for light pole caches! Two weeks ago we took one of our friend's who was here visiting from Wisconsin, to a nearby convenience store which happened to have a cache. She had never heard of geocaching and had never seen a cache of
 any kind. When we nabbed the quick find, she was in awe. Talked about it for days: "Where else can we go? Where else are they hidden?  Is there one there?  Or there?"  Sooo, I think the lame ones have their place. Sure no one wants it to get out of hand, but I am not sure what criteria would be used to determine what is enough,you know? If we had tried to find one of graldich's evil canal mini-micros first time out with our friend, she would have thought we were nuts. Why would anyone in their right mind put themselves through that on a regular basis? :-)

Personally, I love the big ammo cans in the mountain hides, but let's face it, I can't hike enough everyday to feed this addiction. We consider ourselves to be "serious cachers" (it has taken over our lives in fact) but maybe we are still just learning and not ready for the big leagues.  We still love to find them all: easy, hard, creative, no brainers, it doesn't matter.  Once we reach # 500 we will rethink! 

Terry
of wogunhiker

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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mo' bettah caches!

Actually, for virtuals and locationless (since they are cacha non grata at gc.com) a friend of mine has a server, and for not too much money per year, I can have a website to set up and log such types of caches. I toyed with that idea for awhile. I love those kinds of caches too. I was also thinking of adding historical markers on it. For those at gc.com who are listening, I was in no way shape or form wanting to draw away from gc.com, only wanting to give people (and me) some things we want that gc.com doesnt provide for any more. 

Gale <sonoralovesmommy at yahoo.com> wrote: Yes I would like to see higher quality caches. We have a lot of good caches, and a lot of "here's a bush, here's a trash can, here's a light fixture" in a non descript area, hidden just because they can be hidden. It would be better to have more local control, since one size fits all rules dont really work as well. What applies in one part of the world/US doesnt necessarily apply here. But........would having it seperate from geocaching.com really work? Will we lose cachers in Arizona? GC.com would come up readily in a search, but would azgc.com? Can azgc.com handle the load? More importantly, would they want to? Oy the headaches!

TEAM 360 <team360usa at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quality of caches would improve DRAMATICALLY if 3 out of 5 reviewers had to give it a "yes" vote before it got listed....Wouldn't you rather see QUALITY caches here in Arizona, rather than the current onslaught of  behind-the-WalMart-dumpster-soggy-logsheet micro caches? 

Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking

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