[Az-Geocaching] Yes...very sad (Something to consider)

Wed Aug 24 08:57:49 MST 2005

Hey guys, I AGREE with you, GEEEEZZ!!! You ALL know that I did not start
this "negativity" nor do I usually behave (start anything negative) like
this on the list. But give me a break....I was attacked with a VULGAR
filthy email and I expect some support from some of my alleged "friends"
in the community. I WOULD SUPPORT YOU. I have been here for over 4 years,
and I have supported several others in different but difficult
circumstances.

Thanks alot.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: AZcachemeister
  To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Yes...very sad (Something to consider)
  Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:57:07 -0700

  Yes, Joe, you are right. It's too bad these threads have to dive so
  deep into such depths of negativity.  :-[ I suppose to an outsider we
  probably sound like a bunch of screaming pre-schoolers. >:o
  I'm blaming it on a case of mass cabin-fever, brought on by hot
  weather and high gas prices.

  Joe Brekke wrote:

Given the recent posts on this list serve, I just wanted to share
something with the members of this list. I met recently, a couple who
were new to Geocaching at a cache here in the Portland area.  It was a
multi-stage and we were walking out as they were starting it.  I noticed
them and struck up a conversation.  After talking for a few minutes, I
said goodbye, and we went on.  I was contacted by them because they did
not find the cache.  I told him where he went wrong and this opened up
several e-mails between us.  Their team name is Bandmaster.  He has
retired as a Bandmaster in the US Army.  He had several questions of a
technical nature on his Garmin 60CS and PDA's.  I don't profess to be
anything of a technical guru but know that several on this Listserve are:
The following are exerts of our recent e-mails. Bandmaster: I remember
that you and I have the same Garmin gps. Right?  How do you like it?  Any
tips on its operation?  I’ve been looking for someone who knows how to
download clue sheets to a PDA. My Response: I love my 60C. I do not have
a PDA, so I have never downloaded them I just print it to a piece of
paper just like you have done.  I'm just not good with PDA's, so I don't
use them.  For people that do use them there is a way to do it, as long
as you match software.  I can probably put you in touch with some people
that can tell you how to do it.  I subscribe to a geocaching
listserve...in Arizona where I used to cache.  They can be a great source
of technical information...often really terrific.  They do have their
quirks, but a lot of them are great technical sources.  The link to this
site is:

ttp://www.azgeocaching.com/index.html you can check out the site
there.    If you subscribe to the mailing list then you can post a
question.  I've never had any viruses or any problems with spam due to
this list, so it's pretty safe.  You can ask anything and get some pretty
good answers.  Usually you will get a 3 or 4 responses, and then you can
just privately e-mail the person you choose to ask...usually the post
from the person will give you a link to their e-mail.  I can tell you
that a really good source for information on the Garmin 60C is a guy
named Brian Casteel.  There are several sources that can help you with
the PDA question as well.  Occasionally the posts can get quite childish,
sometimes people get their feelings hurt, but the technical information
from some of them can't be beat and is a lot better than I can give you. 
You can check it out, and if the infighting gets too much for you, just
unsubscribe from the list.

Bandmaster:

Great info Joe!  My model is the 60cs, probably an added feature I
haven’t used yet. You gave me good resources too.

My point is that these e-mails between he and I started  on the 22nd.  If
he joined on that day you all know the type of messages he has received
from this list.  In light of this, I truly hope that he didn't take my
advice and join...even though I warned him that the possibility existed
that he would come across some thread like this.  I don't think that is
something that is ever thought through when e-mails are posted to this
list.  Think of someone who was a new subscriber and they came right into
this yet again unproductive toxic thread - usually off topic that gets
started from an e-mail...though I do realize this wasn't totally the case
here.  The point is that something like this continually occurs.  The
AZGeocaching.com web site says there are 300 members on this list.  I'm
pretty sure that close to 90% of the posts come from less than 20 of
these members. 

One of the threads on this Listserve in the last few years has dealt
with extending a hand to new Geocachers and acting as mentors and
inviting them to this list so that they can see what a wonderful
community we have.  Ok, can anyone say that the discussions they have
seen the last couple of days on this Listserve has in any way served as
an ambassidorship or helping hand to new Geocaching members?  Have these
threads been something that we as mentors to new members should be proud
of?  I have to say that I'm not, and Bandmaster if you did actually
subscribe to this list, I apologize.  My intent was not to get you
involved in this mess. 

Joe - TeamBlunder

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