[Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -

Brian Casteel bcasteel at uccinc.net
Mon Apr 18 15:22:55 MST 2005


Scott is right.  There is much much more to this saga than meets the eye. 
In one respect it would be worth telling the whole story, but in another 
more significant way it would violate the privacy and trust among those who 
do know what's going on.  It's truly unfortunate, and I wish it were 
different.  The current situation has and can once again affect me, so I can 
safely speak from two completely different angles.

I'm actually kinda glad the Cardinals are sequestered.  I'm smack in the 
middle of Angels & Demons, and the coincidental timing of where I am in the 
book as it relates to the Conclave, is simply eerie.

Brian
Team A.I.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roping The Wind" <arizcowboy at hotmail.com>
To: <listserv at azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -


> Dan, I think you are missing the point here that Shadowace and Cameron are 
> saying. You are correct, Highpointer is totally within reason to say what 
> he wants as far as opinions are concerned. It is america after all. BUT... 
> what you might not know is that Highpointer has PRIVATELY emailed other 
> cachers (on several occasions that I have been told about) and told them 
> that he didn't think how they handled a certain Travel bug was correct.
>
> One case in point: a good friend of mine, who is also a regular 
> geocacher.... placed a travel bug in a cache that was in east mesa. It was 
> a somewhat urban cache, but in a large desert field. I would say this 
> cache was definitely not near where muggles would particularly stumble 
> upon it (anymore so than any other urban cache). It was probably 400' from 
> the nearest road in a fairly thick desert field. The next day he gets an 
> email from Highpointer (who is NOT the owner of this travel bug and is 
> also NOT the owner of this cache) saying that he shouldn't have placed a 
> TB in that cache as that cache is too urban and too likely to end up 
> missing (therefore I guess placing the TB at risk of disappearing).
>
> Highpointer can state his opinions in his logs.. there is no harm done in 
> that (although sometimes this too can create problems as some people 
> aren't particularly strong mentally and might take them as harmful words). 
> But, for him to email other cachers PRIVATELY and tell them that he thinks 
> this or that is wrong... well that is just plain WRONG!!!!
>
> I wouldn't go as far as Brian did and tell Highpointer to take a hike or 
> anything... but Highpointer needs to just play his game how he wants to 
> play it and keep it at that and not tell other people how to play it.
>
> Quoted in two ways:
>
> "I don't think that travel bugs should be placed in high traffic area 
> caches"
>
> "You should not place travel bugs in high traffic area caches"
>
> Those two sentences are two very similar quotes but yet very different 
> quotes. The first is simply stating an opinion, the second is a command. 
> Getting private emails like the second is not cool.
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
>
>
>>From: "Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch at Eclipsys.com>
>>Reply-To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>>To: listserv at azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] READ THIS CACHE SITE -
>>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:27:37 -0400
>>
>>Right, and I'm just pointing out that he isn't the one slamming other
>>people, telling people to get the heck out of here, etc.  Heck, he's 
>>pretty
>>much dropped out of sight as far as azgeocaching.com goes.
>
>
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