[Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
EvilFISH
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pencil already there sorry
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From: Brian Casteel=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
You could use it to log the underwater cache (I think it's Minus 30) =
by Team Evil Fish. :)
Brian
Team A.I.
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From: HumNummaHumma=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another Lie about Nasa..
Yeah, I actually bought one of those space pens a few years back. =
They're really cool when you need to write on vertical surfaces or =
upside down. I never got to experiment with its claim that it could =
write underwater as well. Not sure when I would need that feature?
Eventually, the pressure in the pen started gushing the ink out, so =
I would have a general mess every time I used it. Fischer was nice =
enough to send me a free replacement, but the same thing happened with =
that pen after six months. I have since lost it and haven't replaced it.
Pretty cool pen, though.
-Brent
ShadowAce <hunting@shakabruddah.com> wrote:
TEF writes:
I was told this story as a kid by my neighbor who was for the most =
part
correct with his stories
When NASA was given the task of what the astronauts would write =
with in
space, spent millions of dollars to come up with the ball point =
pen. While
in Russia given the same question replied was ah we'll use a =
pencil.
---------------------------------------
Now we get to see why it is so funny to sit and listen to some =
people.
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http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp
Fisher did ultimately develop a pressurized pen for use by NASA =
astronauts
(now known as the famous "Fisher Space Pen"), but both American =
and Soviet
space missions initially used pencils, NASA did not seek out =
Fisher and ask
them to develop a "space pen," Fisher did not charge NASA for the =
cost of
developing the pen, and the Fisher pen was eventually used by both =
American
and Soviet astronauts.
Here's how Fisher themselves described it:
NASA never asked Paul C. Fisher to produce a pen. When the =
astronauts began
to fly, like the Russians, they used pencils, but the leads =
sometimes broke
and became a hazard by floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere =
where there
was no gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause a =
short in an
electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the =
pencil
could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher =
realized the
astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing instrument, =
so in July
1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen, with its ink enclosed =
in a
sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher sent the first samples =
to Dr.
Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston Space Center. The pens =
were all
metal except for the ink, which had a flash point abo! ve 200=B0C. =
The sample
Space Pens were thoroughly tested by NASA. They passed all the =
tests and
have been used ever since on all manned space flights, American =
and Russian.
All research and developement costs were paid by Paul Fisher. No =
development
costs have ever been charged to the government.
Because of the fire in Apollo 1, in which three Astronauts died, =
NASA
required a writing instrument that would not burn in a 100% oxygen
atmosphere. It also had to work in the extreme conditions of outer =
space:
In a vacuum.
With no gravity.
In hot temperatures of +150=B0C in sunlight and also in the cold =
shadows of
space where the temperatures drop to -120=B0C
(NASA tested the pressurized Space Pens at -50=B0C, but because of =
the
residential [sic] heat in the pen it also writes for many minutes =
in the
cold shadows.)
Fisher spent over one million dollars in trying to perfect the =
ball point
pen before he made his first successful pressurized! pens in 1965. =
Samples
were immediately sent to Dr. Robert Gilruth, Manager of the =
Houston Space
Center, where they were thoroughly tested and approved for use in =
Space in
September 1965. In December 1967 he sold 400 Fisher Space Pens to =
NASA for
$2.95 each.
Lead pencils were used on all Mercury and Gemini space flights and =
all
Russian space flights prior to 1968. Fisher Space Pens are more =
dependable
than lead pencils and cannot create the hazard of a broken piece =
of lead
floating through the gravity-less atmosphere.
Sightings: This legend was mentioned in an episode of NBC's The =
West Wing
TV series ("We Killed Yamamoto"; original air date 15 May 2002).
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Another Lie=20
about Nasa..</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You could use it to log the =
underwater cache (I=20
think it's Minus 30) by Team Evil Fish. :)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV>
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2004 3:49=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Another=20
Lie about Nasa..</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Yeah, I actually bought one of those space pens a few years =
back.=20
They're really cool when you need to write on vertical surfaces or =
upside=20
down. I never got to experiment with its claim that it could write=20
underwater as well. Not sure when I would need that feature?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eventually, the pressure in the pen started gushing the ink =
out, so I=20
would have a general mess every time I used it. Fischer was nice =
enough to=20
send me a free replacement, but the same thing happened with =
that pen=20
after six months. I have since lost it and haven't replaced =
it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Pretty cool pen, though.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Brent</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>ShadowAce =
<hunting@shakabruddah.com></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff =
2px solid">TEF=20
writes:<BR>I was told this story as a kid by my neighbor who was =
for the=20
most part<BR>correct with his stories<BR><BR>When NASA was given =
the task=20
of what the astronauts would write with in<BR>space, spent =
millions of=20
dollars to come up with the ball point pen. While<BR>in Russia =
given the=20
same question replied was ah we'll use a=20
pencil.<BR><BR>---------------------------------------<BR><BR>Now =
we get=20
to see why it is so funny to sit and listen to some=20
=
people.<BR>---------------------------------------<BR><BR>http://www.snop=
es.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp<BR><BR><BR>Fisher=20
did ultimately develop a pressurized pen for use by NASA=20
astronauts<BR>(now known as the famous "Fisher Space Pen"), but =
both=20
American and Soviet<BR>space missions initially used pencils, NASA =
did not=20
seek out Fisher and ask<BR>them to develop a "space pen," Fisher =
did not=20
charge NASA for the cost of<BR>developing the pen, and the Fisher =
pen was=20
eventually used by both American<BR>and Soviet =
astronauts.<BR><BR>Here's=20
how Fisher themselves described it:<BR><BR>NASA never asked Paul =
C. Fisher=20
to produce a pen. When the astronauts began<BR>to fly, like the =
Russians,=20
they used pencils, but the leads sometimes broke<BR>and became a =
hazard by=20
floating in the [capsule's] atmosphere where there<BR>was no =
gravity. They=20
could float into an eye or nose or cause a short in =
an<BR>electrical=20
device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the =
pencil<BR>could=20
burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere. Paul Fisher realized=20
the<BR>astronauts needed a safer and more dependable writing =
instrument,=20
so in July<BR>1965 he developed the pressurized ball pen, with its =
ink=20
enclosed in a<BR>sealed, pressurized ink cartridge. Fisher sent =
the first=20
samples to Dr.<BR>Robert Gilruth, Director of the Houston Space =
Center.=20
The pens were all<BR>metal except for the ink, which had a flash =
point=20
abo! ve 200=B0C. The sample<BR>Space Pens were thoroughly tested =
by NASA.=20
They passed all the tests and<BR>have been used ever since on all =
manned=20
space flights, American and Russian.<BR>All research and =
developement=20
costs were paid by Paul Fisher. No development<BR>costs have ever =
been=20
charged to the government.<BR><BR>Because of the fire in Apollo 1, =
in=20
which three Astronauts died, NASA<BR>required a writing instrument =
that=20
would not burn in a 100% oxygen<BR>atmosphere. It also had to work =
in the=20
extreme conditions of outer space:<BR>In a vacuum.<BR>With no=20
gravity.<BR>In hot temperatures of +150=B0C in sunlight and also =
in the cold=20
shadows of<BR>space where the temperatures drop to =
-120=B0C<BR>(NASA tested=20
the pressurized Space Pens at -50=B0C, but because of =
the<BR>residential=20
[sic] heat in the pen it also writes for many minutes in =
the<BR>cold=20
shadows.)<BR><BR>Fisher spent over one million dollars in trying =
to=20
perfect the ball point<BR>pen before he made his first successful=20
pressurized! pens in 1965. Samples<BR>were immediately sent to Dr. =
Robert=20
Gilruth, Manager of the Houston Space<BR>Center, where they were=20
thoroughly tested and approved for use in Space in<BR>September =
1965. In=20
December 1967 he sold 400 Fisher Space Pens to NASA for<BR>$2.95=20
each.<BR><BR>Lead pencils were used on all Mercury and Gemini =
space=20
flights and all<BR>Russian space flights prior to 1968. Fisher =
Space Pens=20
are more dependable<BR>than lead pencils and cannot create the =
hazard of a=20
broken piece of lead<BR>floating through the gravity-less=20
atmosphere.<BR>Sightings: This legend was mentioned in an episode =
of NBC's=20
The West Wing<BR>TV series ("We Killed Yamamoto"; original air =
date 15 May=20
=
2002).<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>___________________________________________=
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