[Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating
Andrew Ayre
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sat, 1 May 2004 10:56:43 -0700
I agree with Trisha!
Thanks Guy. :)
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
Trisha
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:25 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating
Hey Guy,
Don't think of it as "caving to peer pressure", think of it as
responding to (hopefully) reasonable and logical suggestions! :-)
I have dealt with this very issue on two of my currently active
caches. For "Art ROCKS!" (GCHK6F) one can walk or "wheel" right up
next to the cache, and I checked the pathway approach for barriers, so
I made it a "1" on purpose. It's a beautiful and interesting setting
so I wanted ALL to be able to enjoy it while getting a "find". I could
have placed the cache just out of reach, (therefore making it a "1.5")
but intentionally did not for those reasons.
Similar with my "Is that what I THINK it is?" There were many places I
could have hidden this just off trail/road and therefore not
handicapped accessible, but I chose to make it available to all. It is
also a "1". (My other caches are 1.5, 2, 2.2...depending)
Thanks for being willing to listen, you are a great person and a great
cacher! Evil, but great!! :-)
Trisha "Lightning"
Prescott
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:50:15 -0700 (PDT), GUY ALDRICH wrote:
>
> I edited the cache ,gave it a 2 terrain rating!
> --- Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:
> > I agree with Trisha. I think it is better to be
> > conservative than
> > misleading.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > Behalf Of
> > Trisha
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:54 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's Surprise Rating
> >
> >
> > The terrain rating is supposed to be for the
> > toughest part of the
> > approach.
> >
> > I don't know about a 3, but it is NOT handicapped
> > accessible if the
> > wheelchair bound person can only get to within 50
> > feet.
> >
> > Why don't you just change it to a 2 or 1.5 and be
> > done with it? There
> > are a handful of physically handicapped (wheelchair,
> > cane/mobility/short of breath) people who cache and
> > can only do "1's".
> > They expect it to be easy enough for wheelchair
> > access.
> >
> > A 2 or 1.5 won't scare people off, just explain it
> > in the description.
> >
> > Think about how you would feel if you were sitting
> > in a wheelchair and
> > tried to get your cache. Get it? I'm sure you would
> > feel bad if you
> > unintentionally ruined a handicapped cacher's day by
> > the misleading
> > rating. It's hard enough for some of them to get out
> > at all. Of
> > course, they are probably reading the logs and would
> > realize that the
> > rating is incorrect anyway.
> >
> > OK, 'nuff said.
> >
> > take care,
> > Trisha
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:06:51 -0700 (PDT), GUY
> > ALDRICH wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Your car should do the climbing!Then it's 400 feet
> > of
> > > flat road to within 50 feet of the cache!The last
> > 50
> > > feet is a bushwack but ,it still no climb!So most
> > of
> > > it is a 1,now where the cache sits,it's a 3,
> > uneven
> > > unpaved the point is if I gave it a 3 rating
> > people
> > > would think you have climbing to do!I could do
> > this
> > > one in flipflops,for most other mountain trails I
> > wear
> > > good hiking boots!Now if you don't read the
> > directions
> > > and just bushwack,then it's a tough climb!!
> > >
> > > Guy
> > > --- Trisha <trisha@brasher.com> wrote:
> > > > Hey Guy,
> > > >
> > > > How'rya doin'?
> > > >
> > > > Ahem....(butting in) Did you read Andy's note?
> > > > Clayjar's rating system
> > > > is not required, of course, but it does seem to
> > be
> > > > somewhat of a
> > > > standard being used.
> > > >
> > > > Let's see. 1 = Handicapped ACCESSIBLE, terrain
> > is
> > > > likely to be PAVED,
> > > > is relatively FLAT, and less than 1/2 mile.
> > > >
> > > > 2 = Terrain is generally along marked trails,
> > there
> > > > ARE NO STEEP
> > > > ELEVATION changes or heavy undergrowth, less
> > than 2
> > > > miles.
> > > >
> > > > Hm.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't been to this cache, but from the logs
> > > > (some mention a short
> > > > steep climb) it seems like bumping the terrain
> > > > rating to at least a 2
> > > > might be more accurate and therefore avoid any
> > > > confusion/complaints in
> > > > the future. Pretty easy. Or, if there is a way
> > to
> > > > get within 50 feet
> > > > without the steep climb, maybe a 1.5.
> > > >
> > > > Think. 50 feet might as well be 50 miles when
> > you
> > > > are wheelchair
> > > > bound. "Accessible" logically means someone in a
> > > > wheelchair can
> > > > physically reach out and grab the cache.
> > (/butting
> > > > in)
> > > >
> > > > take care,
> > > > Trisha "Lightning"
> > > > Prescott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT), GUY
> > > > ALDRICH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy IF you go the right way,you can use a
> > > > wheelchair
> > > > > to get within 50 ft of the cache!You must
> > print
> > > > out
> > > > > and follow the cache page directions!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Andrew Ayre <andy@britishideas.com> wrote:
> > > > > > According to Clayjar's rating system, 1 star
> > for
> > > > > > terrain = wheelchair
> > > > > > accessible. Although the rating system is a
> > > > > > suggestion, was it suitable for
> > > > > > a wheelchair? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On
> > > > > > Behalf Of
> > > > > > SquishyGecko
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:38 PM
> > > > > > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Mummy's
> > Surprise
> > > > > > (OUCH!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So on second thought, I decided to run up
> > there
> > > > this
> > > > > > afternoon and grab it.
> > > > > > Just got back from having a cactus
> > surgically
> > > > > > removed from my butt. Oh
> > > > > > yeah, that's an easy one. No trail, no
> > parking,
> > > > and
> > > > > > a whole bunch of loose
> > > > > > rocks and jumping cactus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a non-native to Arizona, I'm making the
> > > > following
> > > > > > decrees:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never, ever will I again attempt to hike
> > where
> > > > there
> > > > > > is no trail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never, ever will I attempt a non-urban
> > Graldrich
> > > > > > cache.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Never, ever will I go up on a mountain for a
> > > > "quick
> >
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