[Az-Geocaching] If It's Not a Find, What Is It Then?

[Gale]

One cache we found the container, had it in our hands, and in our truck. Neither one of us could get the blasted thing open. It turns out the container was broken and the cache owner verified later on that it was broken. For that cache, out of desperation (our fourth attempt at it) we logged a find. We also plainly stated that if the owner wants to delete our log, ask us to change it, or have us sign it later on, we would. I got a reply from the owner stating that we could claim the find. That is the only time that we have claimed a find and not signed the log. Even recently, we found where a cache was (since there was a note from the cache thief in its place) and we chose to log a DNF instead of a find. We felt that for the first cache, that we would have signed it if we could have gotten it open. We spent a good 15 minutes to half an hour trying to get it open. 
 
Bees? I will walk away and post note.
 


Team Tierra Buena <teamtierrabuena at earthlink.net> wrote:

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I think it’s safe to say that the consensus on this list is that you’ve got to sign the log to log the find. But if you don’t get to sign the log, what then?

 

Say you get to the cache site, you can physically see the container, but you can’t get to it because it’s surrounded by bees? Or say you can physically hold the container in your hands, but you’re too weak and/or too stupid to figure out how to open it, and there’s no indication on the cache page that there’s any kind of trick or puzzle to get the cache open? Or say you go back to the same cache site four times before you finally find the container?

 

Almost everyone seems to agree these situations are not “finds”, but are they “not finds”? Do you log them as NFs or do you consider these cases where you just can’t log the find yet?

 

All opinions welcome, but for the record, we have logged NFs in all three of the above situations. You can find our bee log at Titan Missile Museum, our “couldn’t get it open” at Tubular-1, and our *three* NF logs at Holiday Cache (we have also eventually logged finds at the last two of those). So this is not exactly a hypothetical exercise for us. Our opinion is on the cache pages, but how would you have handled these situations? Log ‘em or leave ‘em? Or something else?

 

(Please don’t say “claim ‘em”.)

 

Steve

Team Tierra Buena 

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Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking
 
Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
  On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden.  Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
  "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"

 

Rudyard Kipling ,   The Explorer  1898





		
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