[Az-Geocaching] State Trust Land

Ford, Denny listserv@azgeocaching.com
Wed, 21 Apr 2004 12:27:40 -0700 

Some one mentioned that if you have a valid hunting license,
that is only true if you are actively hunting, with a gun scouting does not
count.  If not you are considered trespassing.  I would also recommend the
permit.

Tres Hombres

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: trust land permits (William Noll)
   2. RE: trust land (Team Tierra Buena)
   3. Re: trust land permits (EvilFISH)
   4. Re: trust land permits (EvilFISH)
   5. RE: trust land permits (ShadowAce)
   6. Law Enforcement Cachers (ShadowAce)
   7. Re: Law Enforcement Cachers (Brian - Team A.I.)
   8. cant get into azgeocaching still (Gale)
   9. RE: trust land permits (William Noll)
  10. Notacon (Brian - Team A.I.)

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Message: 1
From: "William Noll" <wnoll@cybertrails.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:27:52 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands
(it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't need
the recreation permit.



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Message: 2
From: "Team Tierra Buena" <teamtierrabuena@earthlink.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:32:10 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

> so the questions begins... shouldn't there be a better way to
determine 
> land ownership? is there a good website or some sort of free map 
> available?  can a Trust Land Permit be obtained over the phone or
internet?

Someone's already pointed out how to get the permit, but this site has
all the details:
http://www.land.state.az.us/programs/natural/rec_offroad_permit.htm

The State Land Department (AKA "The Land Trust") has no objection to
Geocaching. But caching or otherwise, you can be nicked for a pretty
hefty fine if you are found on Trust Land without the permit, so it's a
pretty good investment of fifteen or twenty dollars. For most folks
that's probably less than the gas it costs to drive to a patch of Trust
Land these days.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena 


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Message: 3
From: "EvilFISH" <EvilFish@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 17:47:13 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

Where did you find this little jewel of information?

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From: "William Noll" <wnoll@cybertrails.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits


> A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands
> (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't
need
> the recreation permit.
>
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Message: 4
From: "EvilFISH" <EvilFish@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:37:43 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

I guess this answers the other question I had as well

http://www.gf.state.az.us/outdoor_recreation/or_faqs.html

Question
Do I need a permit to operate my OHV on State Trust Land?

Answer
Yes. You must have a recreational permit or a hunting or fishing license to
be on State Land.
 However, a hunting or fishing license is valid only if you are actively
engaged in hunting or fishing.

Recreational Permits are available for individuals and families and are
issued for one year from the date of purchase. The Individual Permit is
$15.00 and the Family Permit is $20.00. Non-profit group and event
recreational permits are also available. They require a different permit and
usually require a longer processing time. You may pick up your recreational
permit in person at the State Land Department main office at 1616 West
Adams, Phoenix AZ 85007. Permit applications can also be requested by mail
or by telephone during normal business hours by calling (602) 364-2753.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits


> Where did you find this little jewel of information?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Noll" <wnoll@cybertrails.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
>
>
> > A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands
> > (it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't
> need
> > the recreation permit.
> >
> >
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Message: 5
From: "ShadowAce" <hunting@shakabruddah.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 18:50:34 -0700
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As pointed out by Evil Fish.. Having the fishing license in hand while not
having a pole or being anywhere near water will not count. You have to be
doing whatever the sport is.. ie: A deer hunting permit from last season
will not get you anything nor will walking with a fishing pole 10 miles from
the nearest water source.

Permits can be obtained on a walk in basis. I had mine and was out of the
office in less then 10 minutes.

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William Noll
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:28 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits


A valid Arizona hunting license will also allow you on State Trust Lands
(it's a little more, though, $25.50). If you have one, you really don't need
the recreation permit.


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Message: 6
From: "ShadowAce" <hunting@shakabruddah.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 20:38:40 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

  Hello.. I am currently holding a Travel Bug that wants to go to Scottland
Yard and it wants to meet police along the way..

 Anyone know of any Geocaching police? (I do mean real and paid law
enforcement officers, not geocachers who police after others :-} )

 It would be nice to find someone between Casa Grande and Benson that I can
pass this off to just to keep the spirit of the bug moving..

Thanks

ShadowAce


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Message: 7
From: "Brian - Team A.I." <teamai@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:27:18 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

Well, I'm not sworn, but work for DPS.  :)  I'm the 'other end of the radio'
for all the officer in metro Phoenix at hours when only vampires should be
awake.  I could certainly arrange for the TB to be in the presence of
uniformed officers, or it could spend a shift with me at work, helping keep
my squads safe.

Brian
Team A.I.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ShadowAce" <hunting@shakabruddah.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Law Enforcement Cachers


>   Hello.. I am currently holding a Travel Bug that wants to go to
Scottland
> Yard and it wants to meet police along the way..
>
>  Anyone know of any Geocaching police? (I do mean real and paid law
> enforcement officers, not geocachers who police after others :-} )
>
>  It would be nice to find someone between Casa Grande and Benson that I
can
> pass this off to just to keep the spirit of the bug moving..
>
> Thanks
>
> ShadowAce
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gale <sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com>
To: list <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] cant get into azgeocaching still
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Message: 9
From: "William Noll" <wnoll@cybertrails.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] trust land permits
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 06:52:08 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

	Part of hunting is pre-season scouting. So even when not in season,
and with no implement in hand, it is still considered 'hunting', and you do
not need a rec permit. Now fishing is another matter...

As pointed out by Evil Fish.. Having the fishing license in hand while not
having a pole or being anywhere near water will not count. You have to be
doing whatever the sport is.. ie: A deer hunting permit from last season
will not get you anything nor will walking with a fishing pole 10 miles from
the nearest water source.



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Message: 10
From: "Brian - Team A.I." <teamai@cox.net>
Organization: Arizona Geocacher
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:45:08 -0400
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Notacon
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

I found a link to this site from fark.com.  Check out Contests:

http://www.notacon.org/basics.html

Brian
Team A.I.



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