[Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas

Brian - Team A.I. listserv@azgeocaching.com
Fri, 2 Apr 2004 1:51:58 -0500


One of the first things I was taught during my time as a Fire Explorer was to ALWAYS approach a body from the head.  That way, if there is a hidden weapon and you startle someone that isn't dead, it's more difficult to raise and shoot or strike you with it.  You have a better chance of escaping serious injury then.

Brian
Team A.I.


> 
> From: "Trisha" <trisha@brasher.com>
> Date: 2004/04/02 Fri AM 01:09:04 EST
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
> 
> I am finally getting to these OH SO MANY emails in my inbox...
> 
> Yes, don't disturb the scene, except to ascertain if the person is
> alive, if they are not obviously dead. (It is usually quite obvious).
> If you do approach a body to see if they are alive, approach from one
> direction, do not walk around, do not touch anything except one place
> on the skin (pulse) and retreat in your own footsteps. Then remember
> to tell the law enforcement which footprints are yours and why. 
> 
> Also remember to be VERY careful, if the person is simply asleep and
> you startle them you are likely to get hurt. Yell at them from about
> 10 feet away first.
> 
> Keep in mind that when you call 9-1-1 from a cell phone, you may be
> talking to someone in Kansas or someplace. You need to ask to be
> connected to (your local county sheriff) or at least tell the operator
> EXACTLY where you are, including state. 
> 
> If you know the number for your local agency, call that instead of
> 911, unless the person is alive. 
> 
> Most dispatchers won't understand coordinates but they will write them
> down if you tell them exactly what to write. Try to give road numbers
> and distance from known points as well.
> 
> If you are not in cell-phone range, take the coordinates of the body,
> drive/walk out to where your cell phone works and call it in. Some
> agencies may suspect you so be prepared to be questioned.
> 
> This happens alot up here, esp near Bloody Basin and north of
> Wickenburg. Seems the bad guys drive just far enough outside of Phx
> before dumping the bodies. Our forest deputies always have a "latest
> story" of a dead body found. Sad.
> 
> Those 2 kids found shot off Bloody Basin road (in their truck) was so
> sad. I was involved in the evidence line search on one day with other
> Posse and SAR members.
> 
> I think I answered everything?
> 
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Prescott
> www.ycjp.org
> 
> 
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:44:47 -0700, "Andrew Ayre" wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Imagine not dialing 911 when the person you thought was dead, wasn't
> > quite
> > dead! I would always dial 911.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
> > insomniak@cox.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:42 PM
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another cacher finds body near Las Vegas
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps we should consider posting instructions on what to do when
> > coming
> > across someone's unfortunate demise.
> > 
> > I'm kinda curious my self as to what are the proper steps to help out
> > law
> > enforcement.
> > 
> > Is it necessary to contact "9-1-1" or would it be more appropriate to
> > contant a non-emergency number?
> > 
> > Which agency to do contact when you are (insert your favorite caching
> > location here.)?
> > 
> > If you are out of range for your cell phone to work, how do you go
> > about
> > contacting law enforcment?
> > 
> > Will dispatchers be able to understand you giving them waypoint
> > information?
> > 
> > There are other questions I can't think of now, but I'm sure I will
> > later.
> > 
> > I think Brian of Team A.I. (my team) and Trisha would probably have
> > alot of
> > information.  It only seems likely that more cachers will find these
> > types
> > of things, and knowing what to do ahead of time.
> > 
> > Jake - Team A.I.
> > 
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Brian
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