[Az-Geocaching] Re: Cacheless and The Pirate

skydad listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sat, 10 May 2003 11:14:20 -0700


Over the past year we have lost 3 caches due to vandals - so we have been
there.  Our caches are typically located in remote areas that takes effort
to place and replace when stolen.  That's part of the game.  Just found it
quite funny that someone made it at least something that we should all be
able to chuckle about.  If replacing a cache causes one such great pain to
replace then don't replace it.  I find it even more amusing that somehow
Team Tierra Buena is suggested as being the pirates  - of all teams to
accuse that one is the funniest.  Should be quite the conversation piece
next time we all are in Rocky Point.

Maybe the pirate just wanted to make Team Cacheless - cacheless.  We can
only hope the pirate remains on the lose never to be discovered and take
his/her place in the AZ Geocaching  archives for all of us to wonder for
years to come.

The Lunch Club



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Subject: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #1171 - 1 msg


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>    1. RE: Cache Pirate Revisited (Bill Tomlinson)
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> Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 09:07:06 -0700
> From: "Bill Tomlinson" <billtomlinson@qwest.net>
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate Revisited
> Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
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> Skydad / The Lunch Club,
>
> I'm glad your reading could be spiced up at my expense.  I have to say,
> though, that I resent being accused of not having a life.  If you had read
> my posts and my profile, you would know that I lead an extremely full
life.
> In addition to a demanding job, I have a wife and three boys that keep me
> very busy.  I am a Boy Scout Scoutmaster and assist with Little League.
As
> a matter of fact, my geocaching time has been severely limited recently
due
> to so many other demands.  As a matter of fact, that was the subject of my
> complaint about the pirate.  I was unwillingly drug into mess.  I had
parted
> with my precious time and some cash to place a cache for you to enjoy.
Now,
> because of this fool, I have to part with more time and more cash to
restore
> my cache.  I might have found it fun too if it happened to someone else
and
> I didn't have to deal with it.  Please put yourself in the shoes of
another
> before judging them.
>
> CacheLess
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of skydad
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 8:50 AM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache Pirate Revisited
>
>
> Just a quick comment on the pirate - The cache pirate has been the only
> thing truly fun on these thread for months - By teams responses you can so
> easily tell who has a life and who needs to find one.  Although not in the
> normal real of geocaching and not one we approve of - it sure spiced
things
> up for a few weeks - If the pirate is ever uncovered there is a few beer
and
> margaritas waiting  him/her compliments of The Lunch Club.
>
> Pirate - Should of waited till the Pirates of the Caribbean movie came
out -
> could of been a great theme cache.
>
> The Lunch Club
>
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> >    1. Re: Special equipment (Scott Wood)
> >    2. Re: Special Equipment (Scott Sparks)
> >    3. Re: Special Equipment (and cache ratings) (Scott Sparks)
> >    4. Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited (Brian Casteel)
> >    5. Re: Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited (Terry Hernlund)
> >    6. RE: Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited (Bill Tomlinson)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 21:15:51 -0700
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > From: Scott Wood <scott@myblueheaven.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Special equipment
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
> > At 08:49 PM 5/9/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > >read though, the more I thought - welp, really sounds
> > >like a 5 to me since I NEED a bike to do it.  Would it
> > >count if I took a toddlers bike and pushed it for the
> > >hike??  I'd have a bike!!
> >
> > I was thinking that I would go down to a t-shirt shop and have a plain
> > shirt made with the biggest letters I can find that just spell BIKE on
> > the front and back.  If I wore that to the cache how could they claim
> > that I didn't have a BIKE.  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > scott@myblueheaven.com
> > www.myblueheaven.com
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 22:38:02 -0700
> > From: Scott Sparks <scottsparks1@mchsi.com>
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Special Equipment
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
> > > Only my opinion of course. How do you distinguish between a
> > > difficult bike cache and an easy one?
> > >
> > > -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > It's been a while since I've done any cycling but here's how I would
> > rate them:
> >
> > Uphill = Difficult
> > Downhill = Easy
> >
> > <big grin>
> > -- Sprocket
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 22:39:34 -0700
> > From: Scott Sparks <scottsparks1@mchsi.com>
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Special Equipment (and cache ratings)
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
> >
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> >
> > > Maybe everyone ought to read the description and not take the rating
> > > for = static.
> > >
> > >
> > > -T.
> > > [General Bracket]
> >
> >
> >
> > You bring up an interesting point.  I seldom even _look_ at the 'star'
> > ratings for a cache.  I read the description and the logs to determine
> > if _I_ feel I can and should attempt it, within the framework of the
> > time I have, the vehicle I'm in, who else is with me and any other
> > activities I might have planned (besides geocaching.)  The ratings, as
> > far as I'm concerned, don't mean a thing.  Most times I've found them
> > to be innacurate, anyway.  Some people who think they are really
> > clever tend to (difficult) rate their caches higher than they really
> > warrant. Others who are very agile and are in peak physical condition
> > tend to set their terrain ratings lower than ordinary human beings
would
> agree
> > with.   Those who get winded walking to the mailbox go overboard with
> > their terrain ratings for a simple extended walk in the park
> > (literally.) About the only time I even look at the ratings is if I've
> > been unable to find a cache in a reasonable period of time, I might
> > look at the difficulty rating to give me an idea of how hard it was
> > 'supposed' to be.  Or, if I've just completed a particularly grueling
> > hike up a steep slope with lots of loose rock and plenty of cat-claws,
> > I might check the terrain rating to see if it's really what I think it
> > should have been.  I never look at a rating before-hand and say to
> > myself, " Oooh! I can't (or shouldn't) do this because it's a big
> > scary 3.5." In the end, the ratings are usually a figment of someone
> > elses imagination.  :-)
> >
> > -- Sprocket
> >
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> > <body>
> > <br>
> > <blockquote type="cite">Maybe everyone ought to read the description and
> > not take the rating for = <br>
> >  static. <br>
> >   <br>
> >   <br>
> >  -T. <br>
> >  [General Bracket] <br>
> >  </blockquote>
> > <br>
> >  <br>
> > You bring up an interesting point.&nbsp; I seldom even _look_ at the
> 'star'  ratings
> > for a cache.&nbsp; I read the description and the logs to determine
> > if
> _I_ feel
> > I can and should attempt it, within the framework of the  time I have,
> > the vehicle I'm in, who else is with me and any other  activities I
> > might have planned (besides geocaching.)&nbsp; The ratings, as  far as
> > I'm concerned,
> don't
> > mean a thing.&nbsp; Most times I've found them to  be innacurate,
> anyway.&nbsp; Some
> > people who think they are really clever  tend to (difficult) rate
> > their
> caches
> > higher than they really warrant.  Others who are very agile and are in
> peak
> > physical condition&nbsp; tend to  set their terrain ratings lower than
> ordinary
> > human beings&nbsp; would agree  with.&nbsp;&nbsp; Those who get winded
> walking to the mailbox
> > go overboard with  their terrain ratings for a simple extended walk in
> > the park  (literally.) About the only time I even look at the ratings
> > is if
> I've
> >  been unable to find a cache in a reasonable period of time, I might
> > look  at the difficulty rating to give me an idea of how hard it was
> 'supposed'
> > to be.&nbsp; Or, if I've just completed a particularly grueling  hike
> > up a
> steep
> > slope with lots of loose rock and plenty of cat-claws, I  might check
> > the terrain rating to see if it's really what I think it  should have
> been.&nbsp;
> > I never look at a rating before-hand and say to  myself, " Oooh! I
> > can't (or shouldn't) do this because it's a big scary  3.5." In the
> > end, the
> ratings
> > are usually a figment of someone elses  imagination.&nbsp; <img
> > src="chrome://editor/content/images/smile_n.gif" alt=":-)"
> > class="moz-txt-smily" height="19" width="19" align="middle">  <br>
> >  <br>
> > -- Sprocket <br>
> > <br>
> > </body>
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> > Message: 4
> > From: "Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@cox.net>
> > To: <az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:29:24 -0700
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
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> > When this problem first came up, I started a thread in the gc forums
> > to = get some opinions on the matter.  I took a few days off, and the
> > thread = exploded.
> >
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058
> > 331=
> > &m=3D40960055
> >
> > Check out this post from Jeremy on the topic...
> >
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058
> > 331=
> > &m=3D40960055&r=3D70560555#70560555
> >
> > I'm thinking it safe to say that the concept of a cache_pirate is
> > being = put to rest by Jeremy.  Despite the interesting aspect of the
> > game by = trying to locate him/her in the field for a prize, I don't
> > really care = for having the caches plundered.  Also, I'm not sure if
> > it was just me = that alerted Jeremy to the situation at first, but he
> > definitely = remedied the problem quickly.  When I look at both
> > profiles, and the = lack of a response to Jeremy regarding what is
> > going on, I can't say = that I believe the second profile.  If this
> > person was going to attempt = rectifying the situation, an e-mail
> > should have been fired off to Jeremy = almost immediately after his
> > e-mail was fired off. =20
> >
> > <conspiracy theory>On a side note (and hopefully taken with humor in =
> > mind), Jeremy identified is as an Earthlink customer who was playing
> > the = role of the elusive cache_pirate.  The only cacher posting to
> > this = listserv from an earthlink.net e-mail address is Team Tierra =
> > Buena.</conspiracy theory>
> >
> > Absolutely nothing connects TTB to the cache_pirate, but it's just a =
> > little thing I noticed.  ;p
> >
> > /me dons his REAL looking fake boulder to avoid the stoning...and =
> > perhaps to hide a cache.
> >
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When this problem first came up, I =
> > started a thread=20
> > in the gc forums to get some opinions on the matter.&nbsp; I took a few
=
> > days=20
> > off, and the thread exploded.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >
href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&am=
> >
>
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3D=
> > tpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055</A></FONT><
> > /DI=
> > V>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT
> > face=3DArial size=3D2>Check out this post from Jeremy on the=20
> > topic...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial
> > size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >
href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&am=
> >
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555">http://ubbx.=
> >
groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp=
> > ;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555</A></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking it safe to say that the =
> > concept of a=20
> > cache_pirate is being put to rest by Jeremy.&nbsp; Despite the =
> > interesting=20
> > aspect of the game by trying to locate him/her in the field for a prize,
=
> > I don't=20
> > really care for having the caches plundered.&nbsp; Also, I'm not sure if
=
> > it was=20
> > just me that alerted Jeremy to the situation at first, but he definitely
=
> >
> > remedied the problem quickly.&nbsp; When I look at both profiles, and
> > = the lack=20 of a response to Jeremy regarding what is going on, I
> > can't say that I = believe=20
> > the second profile.&nbsp; If this person was going to attempt rectifying
=
> > the=20
> > situation, an e-mail should have been fired off to Jeremy almost =
> > immediately=20
> > after his e-mail was fired off.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;conspiracy theory&gt;On a side note
=
> > (and=20
> > hopefully taken with humor in mind), Jeremy identified is as an =
> > Earthlink=20
> > customer who was playing the role of the elusive cache_pirate.&nbsp; The
=
> > only=20
> > cacher posting to this listserv from an earthlink.net e-mail address is
=
> > Team=20
> > Tierra Buena.&lt;/conspiracy theory&gt;</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Absolutely nothing connects TTB to
the=20
> > cache_pirate, but it's just a little thing I noticed.&nbsp; =
> > ;p</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me dons his REAL looking fake boulder
=
> > to avoid the=20
> > stoning...and perhaps to hide a cache.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team A.I.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > From: "Terry Hernlund" <thernlund@hotmail.com>
> > To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:02:05 -0700
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
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> > Mortey, Mortey, Mortey...  the jig is up.  Nobody seems to get your =
> > shtick.  You've apparently been squashed by King Jeremy.  And because
> > of = all this you'll never be able to carry out whatever your master
> > plan = was.  Just go put the stuff back.  Sorry bud.  :-(
> >
> > This whole cache pirate thing has caused me to reflect on what a TRUE =
> > "sense of humor" is.  I'm happy to report that I have one.   ;-)
> >
> >
> > -T.
> > [General Bracket]
> >
> >
>
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> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > Don't inflict bad quotes on me!  Get OE-QuoteFix!
> > http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----=20
> >   From: Brian Casteel=20
> >   To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
> >   Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:29 AM
> >   Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited
> >
> >
> >   When this problem first came up, I started a thread in the gc forums
> > = to get some opinions on the matter.  I took a few days off, and the
> > = thread exploded.
> >
> >   =
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058
> > 331=
> > &m=3D40960055
> >
> >   Check out this post from Jeremy on the topic...
> >
> >   =
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058
> > 331=
> > &m=3D40960055&r=3D70560555#70560555
> >
> >   I'm thinking it safe to say that the concept of a cache_pirate is =
> > being put to rest by Jeremy.  Despite the interesting aspect of the
> > game = by trying to locate him/her in the field for a prize, I don't
> > really = care for having the caches plundered.  Also, I'm not sure if
> > it was just = me that alerted Jeremy to the situation at first, but he
> > definitely = remedied the problem quickly.  When I look at both
> > profiles, and the = lack of a response to Jeremy regarding what is
> > going on, I can't say = that I believe the second profile.  If this
> > person was going to attempt = rectifying the situation, an e-mail
> > should have been fired off to Jeremy = almost immediately after his
> > e-mail was fired off. =20
> >
> >   <conspiracy theory>On a side note (and hopefully taken with humor in
> > = mind), Jeremy identified is as an Earthlink customer who was playing
> > the = role of the elusive cache_pirate.  The only cacher posting to
> > this = listserv from an earthlink.net e-mail address is Team Tierra =
> > Buena.</conspiracy theory>
> >
> >   Absolutely nothing connects TTB to the cache_pirate, but it's just a
> > = little thing I noticed.  ;p
> >
> >   /me dons his REAL looking fake boulder to avoid the stoning...and =
> > perhaps to hide a cache.
> >
> >   Brian
> >   Team A.I.
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mortey, Mortey, Mortey...&nbsp; the jig
=
> > is=20
> > up.&nbsp; Nobody seems to get your shtick.&nbsp; You've apparently been
=
> > squashed=20
> > by&nbsp;King Jeremy.&nbsp; And because of all this you'll never be able
=
> > to carry=20
> > out whatever your master plan was.&nbsp; Just go put the stuff =
> > back.&nbsp; Sorry=20
> > bud.&nbsp; :-(</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This whole cache pirate thing has =
> > caused me to=20
> > reflect on what a TRUE "sense of humor" is.&nbsp; I'm happy to report =
> > that I=20
> > have one.&nbsp;&nbsp; ;-)</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-T.<BR>[General=20
> >
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> >
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Don=
> > 't inflict bad=20
> > quotes on me! &nbsp;Get OE-QuoteFix!<BR></FONT><A class=3D0=20
> > href=3D"http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/"><FONT =
> > face=3DArial=20
> > color=3D#000000=20
> >
size=3D2>http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/</FONT></A><BR>=
> > </DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> > BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> >   <DIV=20
> >   style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> > black"><B>From:</B>=20
> >   <A title=3Dbcasteel@cox.net href=3D"mailto:bcasteel@cox.net">Brian =
> > Casteel</A>=20
> >   </DIV>
> >   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> >   title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
> >   =
> >
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@lis=
> > tserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
> >   </DIV>
> >   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 10, 2003 =
> > 12:29=20
> >   AM</DIV>
> >   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
> > Cache_Pirate=20
> >   Re-Revisited</DIV>
> >   <DIV><BR></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When this problem first came up, I =
> > started a=20
> >   thread in the gc forums to get some opinions on the matter.&nbsp; I =
> > took a few=20
> >   days off, and the thread exploded.</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >   =
> >
href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&am=
> >
>
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3D=
> > tpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055</A></FONT><
> > /DI=
> > V>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Check out this post from Jeremy on
> > = the=20
> >   topic...</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >   =
> > href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311
> > &am=
> >
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555">http://ubbx.=
> >
groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp=
> > ;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555</A></FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking it safe to say that the
=
> > concept of a=20
> >   cache_pirate is being put to rest by Jeremy.&nbsp; Despite the =
> > interesting=20
> >   aspect of the game by trying to locate him/her in the field for a =
> > prize, I=20
> >   don't really care for having the caches plundered.&nbsp; Also, I'm not
=
> > sure if=20
> >   it was just me that alerted Jeremy to the situation at first, but
he=20
> >   definitely remedied the problem quickly.&nbsp; When I look at both =
> > profiles,=20
> >   and the lack of a response to Jeremy regarding what is going on, I =
> > can't say=20
> >   that I believe the second profile.&nbsp; If this person was going to =
> > attempt=20
> >   rectifying the situation, an e-mail should have been fired off to =
> > Jeremy=20
> >   almost immediately after his e-mail was fired off.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;conspiracy theory&gt;On a side =
> > note (and=20
> >   hopefully taken with humor in mind), Jeremy identified is as an =
> > Earthlink=20
> >   customer who was playing the role of the elusive cache_pirate.&nbsp; =
> > The only=20
> >   cacher posting to this listserv from an earthlink.net e-mail address =
> > is Team=20
> >   Tierra Buena.&lt;/conspiracy theory&gt;</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Absolutely nothing connects TTB to =
> > the=20
> >   cache_pirate, but it's just a little thing I noticed.&nbsp; =
> > ;p</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me dons his REAL looking fake =
> > boulder to avoid=20
> >   the stoning...and perhaps to hide a cache.</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team =
> > A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C31698.27BE7860--
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 08:35:07 -0700
> > From: "Bill Tomlinson" <billtomlinson@qwest.net>
> > To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited
> > Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
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> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > Brian,  Thanks for the links.  I don't usually read the forums.  Just
> > = don't have the time.  I was great reading through all of the posts.
> > I had = begun
> > to think I was the only one that still thought the whole pirate thing =
> > was a
> > bad idea.  I also noted that I'm not alone in noting that a week after =
> > the
> > fact, it doesn't appear any of the stolen items have been replaced (in =
> > the
> > original cache or elsewhere).  It seems the pirate has also not =
> > contacted
> > Jeremy and certainly hasn't posted more info here or in the forums.  I =
> > don't
> > believe there really ever was a good intent.  Any good humored well
> > intentioned soul would have come clean or corrected the situation by =
> > now.
> > =20
> > I would be surprised if it were TTB.  They have proven they are cunning
> > enough to come up with a scheme like this, but I highly doubt they would
=
> > let
> > it run on like this without some sort of response.  Then again...   ;-)
> > =20
> > CacheLess
> > =20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
> > Brian
> > Casteel
> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:29 AM
> > To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited
> >
> >
> >
> > When this problem first came up, I started a thread in the gc forums
> > to = get some opinions on the matter.  I took a few days off, and the
> > thread exploded.
> > =20
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc
> >
<http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D401605833=
> > 1&m=3D40960
> > 055> &s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058331&m=3D40960055
> > =20
> > Check out this post from Jeremy on the topic...
> > =20
> > http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc
> > <http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&s=3D5726007311&f=3D401605
> > 833=
> > 1&m=3D40960
> > 055&r=3D70560555#70560555>
> > &s=3D5726007311&f=3D4016058331&m=3D40960055&r=3D70560555#70560555
> > =20
> > I'm thinking it safe to say that the concept of a cache_pirate is being
=
> > put
> > to rest by Jeremy.  Despite the interesting aspect of the game by trying
=
> > to
> > locate him/her in the field for a prize, I don't really care for having
=
> > the
> > caches plundered.  Also, I'm not sure if it was just me that alerted =
> > Jeremy
> > to the situation at first, but he definitely remedied the problem =
> > quickly.
> > When I look at both profiles, and the lack of a response to Jeremy =
> > regarding
> > what is going on, I can't say that I believe the second profile.  If =
> > this
> > person was going to attempt rectifying the situation, an e-mail should =
> > have
> > been fired off to Jeremy almost immediately after his e-mail was fired =
> > off.
> >
> > =20
> > <conspiracy theory>On a side note (and hopefully taken with humor in =
> > mind), Jeremy identified is as an Earthlink customer who was playing
> > the role = of
> > the elusive cache_pirate.  The only cacher posting to this listserv from
=
> > an
> > earthlink.net e-mail address is Team Tierra Buena.</conspiracy theory>
> > =20
> > Absolutely nothing connects TTB to the cache_pirate, but it's just a =
> > little
> > thing I noticed.  ;p
> > =20
> > /me dons his REAL looking fake boulder to avoid the stoning...and =
> > perhaps to
> > hide a cache.
> > =20
> > Brian
> > Team A.I.
> >
> >
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> > <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; =
> > charset=3Dus-ascii">
> > <TITLE>Message</TITLE>
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> > <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD>
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> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
=
> >
> > size=3D2>Brian,&nbsp; Thanks for the links.&nbsp; I don't usually read
> > = the=20 forums.&nbsp; Just don't have the time.&nbsp; I was great
> > reading = through all of=20
> > the posts.&nbsp; I had begun to think I was the only one that still =
> > thought the=20
> > whole pirate thing was a bad idea.&nbsp; I also noted that I'm not alone
=
> > in=20
> > noting that a week after the fact, it doesn't appear any of the stolen =
> > items=20
> > have been replaced (in the original cache or elsewhere).&nbsp; It seems
=
> > the=20
> > pirate has also not contacted Jeremy and certainly hasn't posted more =
> > info here=20
> > or in the forums.&nbsp; I don't believe there really ever was a good=20
> > intent.&nbsp; Any good humored well intentioned soul would have come =
> > clean or=20
> > corrected the situation by now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
=
> >
> > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial
> > color=3D#0000ff = size=3D2>I=20 would be surprised if it were
> > TTB.&nbsp; They have proven they are = cunning=20
> > enough to come up with a scheme like this, but I highly doubt they would
=
> > let it=20
> > run on like this without some sort of response.&nbsp; Then =
> > again...&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
> > ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
=
> >
> > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial
> > color=3D#0000ff =
> >
> > size=3D2>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> > <DIV><SPAN class=3D762111115-10052003><FONT face=3DArial
> > color=3D#0000ff =
> >
> > size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
> > Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
> > az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of
> > = </B>Brian=20 Casteel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 10, 2003 12:29
> > AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
> > az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
> > [Az-Geocaching]=20 Cache_Pirate Re-Revisited<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When this problem first came up, I =
> > started a=20
> >   thread in the gc forums to get some opinions on the matter.&nbsp; I =
> > took a few=20
> >   days off, and the thread exploded.</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >   =
> >
href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&am=
> >
>
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055">http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3D=
> > tpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055</A></FONT><
> > /DI=
> > V>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Check out this post from Jeremy on
> > = the=20
> >   topic...</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
> >   =
> > href=3D"http://ubbx.groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311
> > &am=
> >
p;f=3D4016058331&amp;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555">http://ubbx.=
> >
groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=3Dtpc&amp;s=3D5726007311&amp;f=3D4016058331&amp=
> > ;m=3D40960055&amp;r=3D70560555#70560555</A></FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm thinking it safe to say that the
=
> > concept of a=20
> >   cache_pirate is being put to rest by Jeremy.&nbsp; Despite the =
> > interesting=20
> >   aspect of the game by trying to locate him/her in the field for a =
> > prize, I=20
> >   don't really care for having the caches plundered.&nbsp; Also, I'm not
=
> > sure if=20
> >   it was just me that alerted Jeremy to the situation at first, but
he=20
> >   definitely remedied the problem quickly.&nbsp; When I look at both =
> > profiles,=20
> >   and the lack of a response to Jeremy regarding what is going on, I =
> > can't say=20
> >   that I believe the second profile.&nbsp; If this person was going to =
> > attempt=20
> >   rectifying the situation, an e-mail should have been fired off to =
> > Jeremy=20
> >   almost immediately after his e-mail was fired off.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;conspiracy theory&gt;On a side =
> > note (and=20
> >   hopefully taken with humor in mind), Jeremy identified is as an =
> > Earthlink=20
> >   customer who was playing the role of the elusive cache_pirate.&nbsp; =
> > The only=20
> >   cacher posting to this listserv from an earthlink.net e-mail address =
> > is Team=20
> >   Tierra Buena.&lt;/conspiracy theory&gt;</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Absolutely nothing connects TTB to =
> > the=20
> >   cache_pirate, but it's just a little thing I noticed.&nbsp; =
> > ;p</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>/me dons his REAL looking fake =
> > boulder to avoid=20
> >   the stoning...and perhaps to hide a cache.</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brian</FONT></DIV>
> >   <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Team =
> > A.I.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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