[Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)

Bill Tomlinson listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:01:11 -0700


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Actually, you got a request for clarification.  RandMan got the War and
Peace answer.  The bottom line (actually there are two), though, is that
RandMan, TheWebbman, and I all understood it the same way.  Perhaps =
simply
another example of this poor means of communication?  I suppose that is =
why
my messages are so long.  Clarity is a good thing.
=20
The other bottom line is that you and I have exchanged a number of =
positive
messages and I hope that continues.  The last was after our previous
marathon.  In that thread, I described our very geeky setup.  One GPS in =
the
truck with the laptop and mapping software, one GPS in the field, power
inverter, Palm book, MapPoint, Topo, iPaq, and a whole mess of wires.
=20
As I said in that thread and others have echoed in this one, the key =
purpose
is to have fun.  The reason we use all of the technology is so that we =
can
forget about the mechanics and concentrate on enjoying each cache.  The
primary reason for these two marathon runs is because we are good =
friends
that enjoy geocaching very much.  He and his wife are about to have =
their
first child and he will soon be doing much less and our schedules most
likely won't allow us to do this again.  Although having a record is =
kind of
cool, it isn't a primary motivator.  As a matter of fact, another cacher
(CHUMP maybe) pointed out my current lead for the year which I wasn't =
even
aware of.  Besides, our daily records won't last long.  There are so =
many
urban micros in the East valley, a new team could easily hit 60 if they
planned well.
=20
Blah, blah, blah.  Sorry, like I said, I tend to run on.  So, if you =
have
any interest at all left, feel free to answer my request for =
clarification
and I'll try to answer the question you meant to ask.
=20
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Regan
Smith
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)


I ask a simple yes or no question and get a War and Peace answer....
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill  <mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net> Tomlinson=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)

Truth be known, I did understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to =
ask
it straight out.  To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question.  Had =
he
bothered to become informed before raising an issue, he would have known
that a number of my caches have been done with my family.  That fact is =
even
put forth in word and photo on my profile page.  Yes, TheWebbman and I =
have
done a great many caches together.  So to have Tres Hombres, Lazy K, and
Team C.H.U.M.P.  There are also a number of caches that we both have =
gotten,
but at different times, as well as caches that only one of us have.  I
wonder if this question has posed to those teams or any of the others =
that
frequently hunt together.
=20
For the record, I wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12 =
and
TheWebbman is quite fond of his Legend.  It's amazing what a little bit =
of
competition will bring out in a person.
=20
CacheLess
Bill Tomlinson

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of RAND
HARDIN
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47 AM
To: AZ-Geocaching
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)


On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his interpretation of
Regan's question and thoughts:
=20
Bill,
=20
Didn't you read the fine print in the rules for the definition of what a
"team" is?  If both you and "The Webbman" used the same GPSr to find all =
of
the 250+ caches that you found together, then you would be considered a
"team" and can only record your finds as a team (together).  You cannot =
both
claim finds separately.  Therefore, one of you will need to delete all =
of
the caches that you found together (which in turn will move everyone up =
a
point in the AZ stats)  [:)] .   [;-)]=20
=20
Rand (RandMan)=20
=20
=20
=20
----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Tomlinson
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)
=20
Can you re-phrase that?  Sometimes I'm comprehension challenged.   (I =
mean,
I don't get it)

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of =
Regan
Smith
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:16 AM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)


Will both of you be using the same GPS???

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill Tomlinson <mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net> =20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)


=20
You guys at the top have got to knock off this rivalry or us newbies =
will
never be able to catch up.  ;-)   Speaking of which, be watching for =
another
big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess.  Now I hope I didn't just =
jinx
us.
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CacheLess
Bill

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Actually, you =
got a=20
request for clarification.&nbsp; RandMan got the War and Peace =
answer.&nbsp; The=20
bottom line (actually there are two), though, is that =
RandMan,&nbsp;TheWebbman,=20
and I all understood it the same way.&nbsp; Perhaps simply another =
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this poor means of communication?&nbsp; I suppose that is why my =
messages are so=20
long.&nbsp; Clarity is a good thing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>The other =
bottom line is=20
that you and I have exchanged a number of positive messages and I hope =
that=20
continues.&nbsp; The last was after our previous marathon.&nbsp; In that =
thread,=20
I described our very geeky setup.&nbsp; One GPS in the truck with the =
laptop and=20
mapping software, one GPS in the field, power inverter, Palm book, =
MapPoint,=20
Topo, iPaq, and a whole mess of wires.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>As I said in =
that thread=20
and others have echoed in this one, the key purpose is to have =
fun.&nbsp; The=20
reason we use all of the technology is so that we can forget about the =
mechanics=20
and concentrate on enjoying each cache.&nbsp; The primary reason for =
these two=20
marathon runs is because we are good friends that enjoy geocaching very=20
much.&nbsp; He and his wife are about to have their first child and he =
will soon=20
be doing much less and our schedules most likely won't allow us to =
do&nbsp;this=20
again.&nbsp; Although having a record is kind of cool, it isn't a =
primary=20
motivator.&nbsp; As a matter of fact, another cacher (CHUMP maybe) =
pointed out=20
my current lead for the year which I wasn't even aware of.&nbsp; =
Besides, our=20
daily records won't last long.&nbsp; There are so many urban micros in =
the East=20
valley, a new team could easily hit 60 if they planned =
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Blah, blah, =
blah.&nbsp;=20
Sorry, like I said, I tend to run on.&nbsp; So, if you have any interest =
at all=20
left, feel free to answer my request for clarification and I'll try to =
answer=20
the question you meant to ask.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003><FONT=20
face=3Dverdana>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D905322003-18032003>Bill Tomlinson</SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of =

  </B>Regan Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 5:18 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] New =
Leader=20
  (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I ask a simple yes or no question and get a =
War and=20
  Peace answer....</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net =
href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill=20
    Tomlinson</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> =
</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 =
1:34=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
New Leader=20
    (again)</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>Truth be =
known, I did=20
    understand Regan's question, but I wanted him to ask it straight =
out.&nbsp;=20
    To be honest, I'm quite offended by the question.&nbsp; Had he =
bothered to=20
    become informed before raising an issue, he would have known that a =
number=20
    of my caches have been done with my family.&nbsp; That fact is even =
put=20
    forth in word and photo on my profile page.&nbsp; Yes, TheWebbman =
and I have=20
    done a great many caches together.&nbsp; So to have Tres Hombres, =
Lazy K,=20
    and Team C.H.U.M.P.&nbsp; There are also a number of caches that we =
both=20
    have gotten, but at different times, as well as caches that only one =
of us=20
    have.&nbsp; I wonder if this question has posed to those teams or =
any of the=20
    others that frequently hunt together.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT face=3Dverdana>For the =
record, I=20
    wouldn't be caught away from home without my GPS 12 and TheWebbman =
is quite=20
    fond of his Legend.&nbsp; It's amazing what a little bit of =
competition will=20
    bring out in a person.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003><FONT=20
    face=3Dverdana>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D216032020-17032003>Bill Tomlinson</SPAN></DIV>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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      face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
      [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
      </B>RAND HARDIN<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, 2003 11:47=20
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> AZ-Geocaching<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Az-Geocaching] New=20
      Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><U>On March 17th at 11:40 a.m. RandMan responded with his=20
      interpretation of Regan's question and thoughts:</U></DIV>
      <DIV><U></U>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Bill,</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Didn't you read the <U>fine print</U> in the&nbsp;rules for =
the=20
      definition of what a "team" is?&nbsp; If both you and "The=20
      Webbman"&nbsp;used the same GPSr to find all of the 250+ caches =
that you=20
      found together, then you would be considered a&nbsp;"team" and can =
only=20
      record your finds as a team (together).&nbsp; You cannot both =
claim finds=20
      separately.&nbsp; Therefore, one of you will need to <U>delete</U> =
all of=20
      the caches that you found together&nbsp;(which in turn&nbsp;will =
move=20
      everyone up a point in the AZ stats)&nbsp; [:)] .&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      [;-)]&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Rand (RandMan)&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><U></U>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><U></U>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><U></U>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: =
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        Bill Tomlinson</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 17, =
2003 9:06=20
        AM</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> =
listserv@azgeocaching.com</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching] New=20
        Leader (again)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV><SPAN class=3D541564702-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>Can=20
        you re-phrase that?&nbsp; Sometimes I'm comprehension=20
        challenged.&nbsp;&nbsp; (I mean, I don't get =
it)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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          <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
          face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
          az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
          [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
          </B>Regan Smith<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 14, 2003 7:16=20
          AM<BR><B>To:</B> listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
          [Az-Geocaching] New Leader (again)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><U>Will both of you be using the same=20
          GPS???</U></FONT></DIV>
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            <DIV=20
            style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
            <A title=3Dbilltomlinson@qwest.net=20
            href=3D"mailto:billtomlinson@qwest.net">Bill Tomlinson</A> =
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            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
            title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
            =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
            </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March =
13, 2003=20
            1:17 PM</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[Az-Geocaching]=20
            New Leader (again)</DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff>You guys at the top have got to <U>knock off =
this=20
            rivalry or us newbies will never be able to catch up.&nbsp;=20
            ;-)</U>&nbsp;&nbsp; Speaking of which, <U>be watching for =
another=20
            big day from teams TheWebbman and CacheLess</U>.&nbsp; Now I =
hope I=20
            didn't just jinx us.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff>CacheLess</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
            <DIV><SPAN class=3D913151420-13032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
            color=3D#0000ff>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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