[Az-Geocaching] "Left to Ruin on Rye" is an excellent cache; should remain active

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well I guess this is me ... I will be meeting with Tim this weekend....=20



We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mike and gale jett=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] "Left to Ruin on Rye" is an excellent =
cache; should remain active


  Who is the liason with the site stewards? Or do we even have one? If =
someone wants to have a meeting with Ms. Estes I volunteer to go and =
lend moral support. Safety in numbers. As a former archaeologist, that =
might help as well.


  >From: Brian Cluff=20
  >Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  >To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] "Left to Ruin on Rye" is an excellent =
cache; should remain active=20
  >Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:57:03 -0700=20
  >=20
  >ken@highpointer.com wrote:=20
  >>In my opinion, the people with the SHPO need to realize that they=20
  >>do not own public land. We all own the public lands. This appears=20
  >>to me to be an excellent example of people being granted a little=20
  >>bit of power and authority, and then using their power and=20
  >>authority to harass people and make arbitrary decisions.=20
  >=20
  >I think we need to talk to the head of the site stewards (Ms.=20
  >Estes?) and see how far away from an arch site they want people.=20
  >I know the site stewards would like the range in miles, but I'm=20
  >willing to bet that it will be much smaller than that. If we can=20
  >get some sort of exact distance nailed down, we will be able to tell=20
  >some of these site stewards to go jump in a lake. Right now they=20
  >are just doing their volunteer job and keeping people from going=20
  >near their sites... but without a definition of "near"=20
  >=20
  >Brian Cluff=20
  >Team Snaptek=20
  >=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>well I guess this is me ... I will be meeting with =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
"Left to=20
  Ruin on Rye" is an excellent cache; should remain active</DIV>
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  <P>Who is the liason with the site stewards? Or do we even have one? =
If=20
  someone wants to have a meeting with Ms. Estes I volunteer to go and =
lend=20
  moral support. Safety in numbers. As a former archaeologist, that =
might help=20
  as well.<BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Brian Cluff <BRIAN@SNAPTEK.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A>=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] "Left to Ruin on Rye" is =
an=20
  excellent cache; should remain active=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:57:03 -0700=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;ken@highpointer.com wrote:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;In my opinion, the people with the SHPO need to =
realize=20
  that they=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;do not own public land. We all own the public =
lands. This=20
  appears=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;to me to be an excellent example of people being =
granted a=20
  little=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;bit of power and authority, and then using their =
power and=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;authority to harass people and make arbitrary =
decisions.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I think we need to talk to the head of the site =
stewards (Ms.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Estes?) and see how far away from an arch site they =
want=20
  people.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I know the site stewards would like the range in miles, =
but I'm=20

  <DIV></DIV>&gt;willing to bet that it will be much smaller than that. =
If we=20
  can=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;get some sort of exact distance nailed down, we will be =
able to=20
  tell=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;some of these site stewards to go jump in a lake. Right =
now=20
  they=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;are just doing their volunteer job and keeping people =
from=20
  going=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;near their sites... but without a definition of "near"=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Brian Cluff=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Team Snaptek=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
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