[Az-Geocaching] GPS on Airlines
Team Cache-Quest
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:18:10 -0700
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It is also interesting that AA now allows cell phone use after landing =
while the plane is taxiing to the gate.
Jerry
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From: William Noll=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS on Airlines
That's interesting. The FAA.GOV website is down right now, I couldn't =
find any official govt info. Here is a website regarding GPS on =
airlines:
http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm
http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm
There is no real safety threat created by a GPS. Laptop Computers =
generate far more RFI (radio frequency interference) than any GPS could. =
What about terrorists? Again, the GPS is not banned, only its usage =
during flight. Most airlines ban RFI generating electronics during =
takeoff and landing due to the inherent potential of RFI interference =
during these critical modes of flight. Cell phones are supposedly banned =
from use because they 'light up' a significant number of cellular tower =
antennas (due to line-of sight), but the real reason could be =
(speculated by some) that the airlines would lose mucho dinero from the =
installed Air-Fones.
There has never been a documented case in which an aircraft has lost =
it's NAV instruments (GPS, VOR, or ILS) due to a GPS (or in that case, =
any other RFI generating device).
Remember, it's ultimately up to the pilot and crew. It NEVER hurts to =
ask!!!
Bill
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From: Team Cache-Quest=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:25 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS on Airlines
I was on an American Airlines flight this week. I was half dozing =
as the Flight Attendant went through the list of banned electronic =
devices (radios, ceel phones, etc.), but my ears perked up when she =
ended the list with GPS devices. I'm sure I'm never heard them =
specifically listed before. I got out their magazine and looked up the =
list in the information section. Sure enough, GPS devices were in the =
banned list. I don't know if this is a new policy or not, but I've used =
mine Garmin Etrex Vista on flights for the past couple years and was =
never questioned. I was on three other flights after that one this week =
and the attendants didn't not mention GPS devices.
Thanks,=20
Jerry
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is also interesting that AA now =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dwnoll@cybertrails.com =
href=3D"mailto:wnoll@cybertrails.com">William=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 26, 2003 =
9:57=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
GPS on=20
Airlines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>That's interesting. The FAA.GOV website is down =
right now, I=20
couldn't find any official govt info. Here is a website regarding GPS =
on=20
airlines:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D"http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm">http://gpsinformatio=
n.net/airgps/airgps.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm">http://gpsinformatio=
n.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There is no real safety threat created by a =
GPS.=20
Laptop Computers generate far more RFI (radio frequency interference) =
than any=20
GPS could. What about terrorists? Again, the GPS is not banned, only =
its usage=20
during flight. Most airlines ban RFI generating electronics during =
takeoff and=20
landing due to the inherent potential of RFI interference during these =
critical modes of flight. Cell phones are supposedly banned from use =
because=20
they 'light up' a significant number of cellular tower antennas (due =
to=20
line-of sight), but the real reason could be (speculated by some) that =
the=20
airlines would lose mucho dinero from the installed =
Air-Fones.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>There has never been a documented case in which an =
aircraft=20
has lost it's NAV instruments (GPS, VOR, or ILS) due to a GPS (or in =
that=20
case, any other RFI generating device).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Remember, it's ultimately up to the pilot and =
crew. It NEVER=20
hurts to ask!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dcache-quest@cox.net =
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Cache-Quest</A> </DIV>
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title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 25, 2003 =
11:25=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] GPS =
on=20
Airlines</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I was on an American Airlines flight this week. I was =
half dozing=20
as the Flight Attendant went through the list of banned electronic =
devices=20
(radios, ceel phones, etc.), but my ears perked up when she ended =
the list=20
with GPS devices. I'm sure I'm never heard them specifically =
listed=20
before. I got out their magazine and looked up the list in the =
information section. Sure enough, GPS devices were in the =
banned=20
list. I don't know if this is a new policy or not, but I've =
used mine=20
Garmin Etrex Vista on flights for the past couple years and was =
never=20
questioned. I was on three other flights after that one this =
week and=20
the attendants didn't not mention GPS devices.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
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