[Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...
Bill
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:12:49 -0700
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There was a very long discussion about the red-light cam issue on the VW =
Vanagon list that I also subscribe to. A couple of members of that =
large (1600+) list were involved when their city installed the cameras. =
It seems that the contract with the camera company demands a certain =
amount of revenue generation, and that, as a result, yellow light times =
are shortened when the cameras are installed. Because of that, the rate =
of rear end accidents rises when the cameras are installed. I =
understand that they do hold up in court. I don't know from experience, =
because neither of our traffic lights here in Willcox has a ticket cam. =
They are talking about a third light in a couple of years, so maybe once =
we enter the big time, we'll get them, too.
Bill
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From: Mike Ingoglia=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to =
track each driver...
Yeah, but if fought in court (supposedly) you can get out of it.... =
from what I've been told. Anyone experience this?
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bill=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Oregon bureaucrats propose using GPS to =
track each driver...
The inability to identify the driver hasn't stopped the red light =
cameras from mailing tickets.
Bill
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike Ingoglia=20
That's an interesting idea that I hadn't thought about... If GPS =
was allowed to be used for law enforcement they could develop thresholds =
in which it would automagically mail you a ticket... actually this may =
not happen because they couldn't be sure if the owner of the vehicle was =
actually driving... but it could prompt authorities to attempt to =
intersect you and pull you over, I'd imagine.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>There was a very long =
discussion=20
about the red-light cam issue on the VW Vanagon list that I also =
subscribe=20
to. A couple of members of that large (1600+) list were involved =
when=20
their city installed the cameras. It seems that the contract with =
the=20
camera company demands a certain amount of revenue generation, and that, =
as a=20
result, yellow light times are shortened when the cameras are =
installed. =20
Because of that, the rate of rear end accidents rises when the cameras =
are=20
installed. I understand that they do hold up in court. I =
don't know=20
from experience, because neither of our traffic lights here in Willcox =
has a=20
ticket cam. They are talking about a third light in a couple of =
years, so=20
maybe once we enter the big time, we'll get them, too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dmike@leaplab.com href=3D"mailto:mike@leaplab.com">Mike =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
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bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yeah, but if fought in court =
(supposedly) you can=20
get out of it.... from what I've been told. Anyone experience=20
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2003 9:52=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
Oregon=20
bureaucrats propose using GPS to track each driver...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>The inability to =
identify the=20
driver hasn't stopped the red light cameras from mailing=20
tickets.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style" size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dmike@leaplab.com href=3D"mailto:mike@leaplab.com">Mike =
Ingoglia</A>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's an interesting idea that I =
hadn't=20
thought about... If GPS was allowed to be used for law =
enforcement=20
they could develop thresholds in which it would automagically mail =
you a=20
ticket... actually this may not happen because they couldn't =
be sure=20
if the owner of the vehicle was actually driving... but it could =
prompt=20
authorities to attempt to intersect you and pull you over, =
I'd=20
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