[Az-Geocaching] Wilderness Caches

Regan Smith listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sun, 16 Feb 2003 06:57:00 -0700


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MessageI suggest you email the hider directly about your concerns. Don't =
start by posting a "cache should be  archived" log entry. If you then =
can't come to a resolution with the hider and you still believe the =
placement is inappropriate, at that point you should consider getting =
geocaching.com involved.

Yes I just want to reiterate that!!!=20


Now if we could just get the AZ Repug :\ Republic to do a follow up =
article on how the Arizona caching community has come together to =
prevent such disasters as had been previously stated things would be =
well....=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Team Tierra Buena=20
  To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:37 AM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wilderness Caches


  Thanks to the initiative of Regan Smith of Team Evil Fish (and =
congrats on reaching 200 finds, Regan!), an email correspondence was =
established between the geocaching.com admins responsible for approving =
caches in Arizona and our friend Scott Wood at Tonto National Forest. =
The result of that dialogue is that physical caches in designated =
wilderness areas will no longer be approved in Arizona. Tonto NF =
continues to "welcome" (Scott's word) Geocaching elsewhere within its =
land.

  We are also asked when placing caches to be sensitive to areas that =
may be or contain archaeological sites. If you want to place a cache and =
are unsure about an area, please contact the Ranger District office =
responsible for the area to obtain guidance.

  Both Scott and the admins recognize that not everyone who hides caches =
in the state reads this mailing list. At the same time we must remember =
that the admins are volunteers and certainly don't know our public lands =
as well as we do. So if you see a new physical cache get approved that =
you believe has been placed in a designated wilderness area, or if you =
discover a multi where the last stage turns out to be in wilderness, I =
suggest you email the hider directly about your concerns. Don't start by =
posting a "cache should be  archived" log entry. If you then can't come =
to a resolution with the hider and you still believe the placement is =
inappropriate, at that point you should consider getting geocaching.com =
involved.

  If we employ this bit of self-policing, we should be able to ensure =
that everyone can continue to enjoy Geocaching on most of the three =
million acres that comprise the Tonto National Forest.

  Steve
  Team Tierra Buena

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#0000ff>I suggest you email the =
hider=20
directly about your concerns. Don't start by posting a "cache should =
be&nbsp;=20
archived" log entry. If you then can't come to a resolution with the =
hider and=20
you still believe the placement is inappropriate, at that point you =
should=20
consider getting geocaching.com involved.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#0000ff></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#000000>Yes I just want to =
reiterate=20
that!!! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now if we could just get the AZ Repug=20
:\&nbsp;Republic to do a&nbsp;follow up article on how the Arizona =
caching=20
community has come together&nbsp;to prevent such disasters as had been=20
previously stated things would be well....&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dteamtierrabuena@earthlink.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:teamtierrabuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@lis=
tserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 15, =
2003 9:37=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
Wilderness=20
  Caches</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT face=3D"Book =
Antiqua">Thanks to the=20
  initiative of Regan Smith of Team Evil Fish (and congrats on reaching =
200=20
  finds, Regan!), an email correspondence was established between the=20
  geocaching.com admins responsible for approving caches in Arizona and =
our=20
  friend Scott Wood at Tonto National Forest. The result of that =
dialogue is=20
  that physical caches in designated wilderness areas will no longer be =
approved=20
  in Arizona. Tonto NF continues to "welcome" (Scott's word) Geocaching=20
  elsewhere within its land.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">We =
are also=20
  asked when placing caches to be sensitive to areas that may be or =
contain=20
  archaeological sites. If you want to place a cache and are&nbsp;unsure =
about=20
  an area, please contact the Ranger District office =
responsible&nbsp;for the=20
  area&nbsp;to obtain&nbsp;guidance.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">Both =
Scott and=20
  the admins recognize that not everyone who hides caches in the state =
reads=20
  this mailing list. At the same time we must remember that the admins =
are=20
  volunteers and certainly don't know our public lands as well as we do. =
So if=20
  you see a new physical cache get approved that you believe has been =
placed in=20
  a designated wilderness area, or if you discover a multi where the =
last stage=20
  turns out to be in wilderness, I suggest you email the hider directly =
about=20
  your concerns. Don't start by posting a "cache should be&nbsp; =
archived" log=20
  entry. If you then can't come to a resolution with the hider and you =
still=20
  believe the placement is inappropriate, at that point you should =
consider=20
  getting geocaching.com involved.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">If =
we employ=20
  this bit of self-policing, we should be able to ensure that everyone =
can=20
  continue to enjoy Geocaching on most of the three million acres that =
comprise=20
  the Tonto National Forest.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua"></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT=20
  face=3D"Book Antiqua">Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D435180516-15022003><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua">Team =
Tierra=20
  Buena</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3D"Book =
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