Since I know there's several of you that are into rock crawlin'/ 4 wheelin' I figured I'd pass this on. Someone I know has a two day 4 wheelin' trip with http://www.bb4wa.com/training/group.htm in April that he can't use... if anyone's interested you can contact me at mike@leaplab.com. He paid $295 for it but will let it go for the "best offer"... Figured I'd pass this on (wish I could use it!) Mike