[Az-Geocaching] rattle snake breaking
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found a place that will snake train your pup for $65. They use a =
rattler and a normal snake to teach them to stay away from all snakes.. =
the # 602-272-8008
Libby
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mimi Philpott=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Cache placement
From the sounds of it the placement sounds legit. Without hiking this =
one
yet, though it was on my list this last weekend, it's hard to say. =
Doesn't
sound like the rangers are much help and most likely won't be until =
some
higher ups have a problem with it. There are a lot of other caches =
that are
not on "numbered trails" and are good placements. My vote, if it =
counts for
anything, is to keep it.
Ed
Trail Gypsy
-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of T.
Hernlund
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:03 PM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache placement
Hello all! New to this list.
It was suggested to me that I post this question here to get some =
feedback.
I recently placed my first cache at the Squaw Peak Park in a location =
that I
have frequented for some time. Today it was brought to my attention =
that
the trail this cache is placed on is "unsigned", meaning does not have =
the a
number designation. As anyone who's hiked SPP in the past knows, =
these
trails are all over.
This particular one isn't just a little overgrown coyote trail like =
some,
but it is a very clear foot-trafficked trail all the way to the cache. =
In
one place it's steep and as such isn't "paved", but resumes after that =
point
and is still fairly obvious. It's even clear enough to see on a =
6-year-old
aerial photo.
I asked rangers and they are vague on the whole thing. While I'm sure =
they
know the trails, they don't seem to put much thought into the location =
on my
cache or even if they know what the hell it is. They just basically =
recite
the ordinance and say "No trailblazing" in a public service sort of =
way.
The two I've spoken to wouldn't really give me a straight answer, but =
rather
gave the canned "public service announcement".
My contention it that I'm not trailblazing as there is a clear trail. =
The
fact remains however that it's not a numbered trail. I would have =
never
even thought it was off-limits, and still don't. But like I said =
someone
brought it up to me that they thought some may see it differently. =
Hence I
ask the community (you).
Given my description and the fact that it's not numbered, should I =
leave it
or retrieve it? The page is here...
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D63693
Given the location of some other caches around SP (of which I used as =
a
guide in this placement), I'm very inclined to leave mine where it's =
at.
However if I get a chewing here then I'll probably be getting rid of =
it.
Thanks for and feedback.
-T.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>found a place that will snake train =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dmphilpott@rni.net href=3D"mailto:mphilpott@rni.net">Mimi =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
Cache=20
placement</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>From the sounds of it the placement sounds legit. =
Without=20
hiking this one<BR>yet, though it was on my list this last weekend, =
it's hard=20
to say. Doesn't<BR>sound like the rangers are much help and most =
likely=20
won't be until some<BR>higher ups have a problem with it. There =
are a=20
lot of other caches that are<BR>not on "numbered trails" and are good=20
placements. My vote, if it counts for<BR>anything, is to keep=20
it.<BR><BR>Ed<BR>Trail Gypsy<BR><BR>-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A><BR>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@lis=
tserv.azgeocaching.com]On=20
Behalf Of T.<BR>Hernlund<BR>Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:03 =
PM<BR>To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocaching@lis=
tserv.azgeocaching.com</A><BR>Subject:=20
[Az-Geocaching] Cache placement<BR><BR><BR>Hello all! New to =
this=20
list.<BR><BR>It was suggested to me that I post this question here to =
get some=20
feedback.<BR><BR>I recently placed my first cache at the Squaw Peak =
Park in a=20
location that I<BR>have frequented for some time. Today it was =
brought=20
to my attention that<BR>the trail this cache is placed on is =
"unsigned",=20
meaning does not have the a<BR>number designation. As anyone =
who's hiked=20
SPP in the past knows, these<BR>trails are all over.<BR><BR>This =
particular=20
one isn't just a little overgrown coyote trail like some,<BR>but it is =
a very=20
clear foot-trafficked trail all the way to the cache. In<BR>one =
place=20
it's steep and as such isn't "paved", but resumes after that =
point<BR>and is=20
still fairly obvious. It's even clear enough to see on a=20
6-year-old<BR>aerial photo.<BR><BR>I asked rangers and they are vague =
on the=20
whole thing. While I'm sure they<BR>know the trails, they don't =
seem to=20
put much thought into the location on my<BR>cache or even if they know =
what=20
the hell it is. They just basically recite<BR>the ordinance and =
say "No=20
trailblazing" in a public service sort of way.<BR>The two I've spoken =
to=20
wouldn't really give me a straight answer, but rather<BR>gave the =
canned=20
"public service announcement".<BR><BR>My contention it that I'm not=20
trailblazing as there is a clear trail. The<BR>fact remains =
however that=20
it's not a numbered trail. I would have never<BR>even thought it =
was=20
off-limits, and still don't. But like I said someone<BR>brought =
it up to=20
me that they thought some may see it differently. Hence I<BR>ask =
the=20
community (you).<BR><BR>Given my description and the fact that it's =
not=20
numbered, should I leave it<BR>or retrieve it? The page is=20
here...<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D63693">htt=
p://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3D63693</A><BR><BR>Give=
n=20
the location of some other caches around SP (of which I used as =
a<BR>guide in=20
this placement), I'm very inclined to leave mine where it's =
at.<BR>However if=20
I get a chewing here then I'll probably be getting rid of =
it.<BR><BR>Thanks=20
for and=20
=
feedback.<BR><BR><BR>-T.<BR><BR>_________________________________________=
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