[Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes
Regan Smith
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sat, 5 Apr 2003 06:18:17 -0700
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I would name names but one of those would be mine,=20
as of late I have noticed that there has been a very large number of =
caches that have gone missing or plundered... and as has been mentioned =
as a cacher who not only finds but hides a cache there is more =
responsibility to keep a good image...
Just think if a certain cache was checked on in a timely manner after a =
cacher posting a note, would a concerned volunteer raised such a ruckus? =
as was mentioned items (read trash) was spread around and a cache =
container was easily spotted....
and in the preserve, we as cachers have a very good opportunity to =
remove these caches from the area, (and letting the public know these =
caches have been moved or archived) I think the preserve is considered =
to be now a low human intrusion area, what would happen if a plundered =
cache was found with contents spread about??? or if it was missing and =
other cacher teams go looking and start rock turning??? or branch =
breaking??? who would be responsible??=20
then if you are unable to properly manage a cache turn it over to =
people who will or archive it, you don't need to move out of state =
either...
In fact I would love to see a land management contact link on the AZ =
site, but I doubt a complete list is available, I know of a couple of =
people that have tried contacting a agency and getting the I have no =
Idea what you are talking about but that same agency has had caches =
removed, there are specific people that need contacted....
then on a related tangent at one cache that I now have responsibility =
over I was shocked by the damage done to the area by the cache, and =
cachers finding, just like cache in trash out shouldn't we as cachers =
leave an area better than when we arrived, even at a virtual????
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From: gale and mike=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes
Were there any specific caches you had in mind? There's one I can know =
of.
>From: "Regan Smith"=20
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
>To:=20
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes=20
>Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 20:14:04 -0700=20
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>Was just thinking again=20
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>so what should be done when you find a cache that the owner hasn't =
fixed after being plundered? I mean say 2 teams visit the site a week =
apart both stating that the cache is in diss repair or missing and the =
cache owner hasn't responded to any emails or postings to the matter??? =
then what would be appropriate time for fixing a cache???=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would name names but one of those =
would be mine,=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as of late I have noticed that there =
has=20
been a very large number of caches that have gone missing or =
plundered...=20
and as has been mentioned as a cacher who not only finds but hides =
a cache=20
there is more responsibility to keep a good image...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just think if a certain cache was =
checked on in a=20
timely manner after a cacher posting a note, would a concerned volunteer =
raised=20
such a ruckus? as was mentioned items (read trash) was spread =
around and a=20
cache container was easily spotted....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and in the preserve, we as cachers have =
a very good=20
opportunity to remove these caches from the area, (and letting the=20
public know these caches have been moved or archived) I =
think the=20
preserve is considered to be now a low human intrusion area, what would =
happen=20
if a plundered cache was found with contents spread about??? or if it =
was=20
missing and other cacher teams go looking and start rock turning??? or =
branch=20
breaking??? who would be responsible?? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> then if you are unable to =
properly manage a=20
cache turn it over to people who will or archive it, you don't need to =
move out=20
of state either...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In fact I would love to see a land =
management=20
contact link on the AZ site, but I doubt a complete list is available, I =
know of=20
a couple of people that have tried contacting a agency and getting the I =
have no=20
Idea what you are talking about but that same agency has had caches =
removed,=20
there are specific people that need contacted....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>then on a related tangent at one cache =
that I=20
now have responsibility over I was shocked by the damage done to =
the area=20
by the cache, and cachers finding, just like cache in =
trash out=20
shouldn't we as cachers leave an area better than when we arrived, even =
at a=20
virtual????</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 04, 2003 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] =
punishment=20
and non crimes</DIV>
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<P>Were there any specific caches you had in mind? There's one I can =
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of.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Regan Smith" <BUGGERS@MINDSPRING.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: <A=20
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<DIV></DIV>>To: <LISTSERV@AZGEOCACHING.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] punishment and non crimes=20
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 20:14:04 -0700=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>Was just thinking again=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>so what should be done when you find a cache that the =
owner=20
hasn't fixed after being plundered? I mean say 2 teams visit the site =
a week=20
apart both stating that the cache is in diss repair or missing and the =
cache=20
owner hasn't responded to any emails or postings to the matter??? then =
what=20
would be appropriate time for fixing a cache???=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
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