[Az-Geocaching] Bass Ackwards Cache

[Jason Poulter]

so is hap going to log in and archive the cache?


or do we need to send a note to jeremey for him to archive it?


jason



Scott Nicol wrote:
>> From: "Hap McDaniel" <happeninghap@hotmail.com>
>> To: arizcowboy@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Re: ropingthewind contacting you from Geocaching.com
>> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:10:38 -0700
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>> Bass Ackwards is no longer there. Sorry. NPS did'nt like it.
>>                        hap
>>
>> Hap McDaniel
>> Phoenix AZ USA
>> 602-909-8672
>> n.33.51559
>> w.112.12347
>> happeninghap@hotmail.com
>> www.geocities.com/happeninghaps
>>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Howdy AZ geocachers,
> 
> Some sad news as I awake this morning to read my emails. Above is the 
> email from Hap McDaniel in response to my email to him about the Bass 
> Ackwards Cache. You know, the cache that is over 530 days old without a 
> find! That is the official news from the cache owners mouth.
> 
> Am I the first geocacher to actually inquire to the cache owner about 
> this cache? Team Ropingthewind has been planning and plotting for a 
> couple of weeks now for an attempt at this cache this upcoming weekend. 
> But, we can rest now! We have wanted to do it for several months now but 
> the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is closed for the winter and didnt 
> reopen until May 10th. We hoped to do it last weekend, but, business 
> changed our plans. So, this was to be the weekend.
> 
> For those wishing to know... there was a trail to the cache. North Bass 
> Trail. It appears to be a little used trail. I sent another email to 
> inquire about the condition of that trail, but, havent gotten a response 
> as of yet. That was still our big question. Where did the trailhead 
> start and could we drive to it? The cache appeared to be only about 400' 
> off the trail (according to my mapping software). No permits were needed 
> except for overnight stays (backcountry permit). It is possible to hike 
> to the bottom of the canyon and back up in one LONG day. I have done it 
> (even though the National Park says over and over on it's web site that 
> it shouldnt be attempted). Day hiking did not require a permit. Just a 
> park entrance fee.
> 
> Geez, and just when we thought we might finally beat Loran to a first! ;)
> 
> Well, I am kinda bummed. We were excited about possibly being the first 
> to that cache. We are only 4 caches away from the big #200 and we were 
> hoping to make Bass Ackwards #200! Hmm. Maybe Bronco Butte?
> 
> I wonder why no one else ever even inquired about this cache to the 
> cache owner? I wonder why it was never archived? It appears the cache 
> owner works for the NPS? It appears there are 2 other caches in the 
> canyon. One near the bottom of the Bright Angel Trail (perhaps?). I 
> wonder what the status of those caches are since the NPS does not allow 
> caches on their land?
> 
> A question to ponder: if a cache is found at least once every 24 hours, 
> does that make it not abandoned property? If I remember from a past post 
> on the list here, someone said the NP does not allow caches because they 
> consider it abandoned property and property cannot remained unattended 
> for more than 24 hours (or something like that). SO, if someone places a 
> cache on NP land that is pretty easily accessible and close to a city 
> (like Saguaro NP in Tucson), as long as there was a daily found log on 
> that cache, would the NP service be in the wrong to remove it (for at 
> least as long as it remains found on a daily basis)? This probably isnt 
> realistic though. But, just pondering a question. There might just be a 
> loophole here!
> 
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
> 
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