[Az-Geocaching] Question on Difficult Caches

[Justin Sever]

I've noticed the same thing.   With some of the frobro cache's it pretty
important that they are placed back in the same spot that they were
found, and I have noticed that several of the times when I have gone
back to check on them, they have been much easier for people to find
because of the improper placement when returning the cache.  I was a
little disappointed when I went to check on them, but the only thing I
can do is just re-hide it and possibly post a note on my cache page to
make sure and put the cache back exactly as it was retrieved.  

When I return cache's I usually even try to stir the dirt up around the
area, so that you see the footprints in the area where the cache is.   I
wish this was a more common practice with other cachers. 

-Frobro Goose

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[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
Brian Cluff
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Question on Difficult Caches


<gripe mode="pet peeve">
This brings up something that is on a similar note.  It really bugs me
when we hide a cache, and we like to hide them really well, then when we
come back people have left the cache in a slightly different spot that
is usually out in the open on in some way not hidden as well. 
Completely changing the difficulty of the cache.  At times I have
thought about securing the box into place to keep this from happening,
but that would just make it really hard at time to go though the box,
and would keep people from dumping dirt and water out of the container
is they need to. Maybe we just need to start painting an x where the
cache goes with a sign that says, place cache here. </gripe>

On the origional note, I would probably nuke the coords.  That just
ruins the intent of the cache.

Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek

On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 10:59, Ford, Denny wrote:
>  I have a question I want to throw out to all.  I had a situation on 
> one of my caches today that  a fellow cacher did not just give a clue 
> on where to find it but just gave the end coordinates.  If this was a 
> easy cache I might not have an issue, but this cache was rated a 4, 
> and for the reason that is was made to be difficult.  The cache in 
> question is the neighborhood park cache.  For the simple reason, of 
> making it more difficult, the coordinates to the second stage only 
> lead you to the area, and from there you have to follow the clues.  In

> reading some of the early logs, the clues were followed and the 
> coordinates were found with some work.  But is that not why caches are
rated?  If not we would just have one rating for terrain.  I know some
of the Wyle E caches and Team Chump, along with Lazy K's are and can be
very difficult to solve.  But when it is complete it is an
accomplishment.  It is dis-heartening when an attempt to go the extra
mile to make it a challenge, to have it handed to cachers.
>  
> So my question to the community what are your feelings on this 
> subject.
>  
> Denny from Tres Hombres 
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