From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 01:10:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:10:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Prize is Won Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011231180922.027ef6b0@mail.myblueheaven.com> From Team Wyle E's log entry: The best part of this trip was at the Rockland Hotel remains. When we arrived, a professional photo shoot was going on in the hotel remains. I'm not sure what the photo's were for, but the beautiful woman was barely wearing any clothes! Thanks Team C.H.U.M.P. for the fun cache and adventure! Team Wyle E - Larry & Connie. Oh great, I go out and find that cache a day early! I still had a good time, but... In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 02:45:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:45:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] I don't love the stats In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020101024554.20750.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com> I think that this just illustrates how public and permanent Internet activities are. Total privacy on the Internet can't be assured, especially once you post information and send e-mail. Everyone is aware that the messages to this list are archived, right? And there's no need for name calling on this issue either, just because someone asked nicely and gave an opinion. I would hope that we're all mature enough to respect differing opinions. I don't think Team Snaptek is liable to do anything with the geocaching info that they harvest but having a way to opt out of the harvest would be a nice feature. Eric Team Dragon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 02:46:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:46:07 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg Message-ID:

I have to add my 2 cents in.   If the stats really bother you then go back in and either delete your logs or note them... I dont think the software can just single Team TJ out.  It sounds like you don't like geocaching anymore anyway.  So just be content with knowing you found a cache and don't log it.  I think Team sanddollar had choosen to do this.  This whole thing is getting old.

Team CBX2

>From: srdrake@srpnet.com
>Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
>To:
>Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg
>Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:36:10 -0700
>
>If you don't want your cache visits showing up as stats, then enter all your
>logs as note logs rather than found it logs.
>
>If you don't want your cache visits to be known about by others because the
>information is too private, then don't voluntarily enter logs when you find
>caches. No one requires logs to be entered when finding a cache. It's
>voluntary. In fact, there are many geocachers who don't log their visits on
>the website. Sometime when you're at a cache, look at the number of people
>who have visited the cache. Later look at how many people posted successful
>logs.
>
>Frankly, I don't know which team you are of the 500+ that show up in the
>Snaptek list. And really, I don't care which team you are. And, whether or
>not you find a cache or not doesn't enter into whether I enjoy the hobby or
>not.
>
>If the statistics on the Snaptek site are ruining your enjoyment for the
>hobby, then I wonder how strong your enjoyment was in the hobby before you
>saw the Snaptek statistics.
>
>Sorry everyone. I'm just tired of the dead horse that Baja Fleg continues
>to beat and whine about.
>
>-srdrake
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From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 07:08:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 00:08:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! Message-ID: <3C31605B.98E6738@snaptek.com> Ya I have the first post of the year 2002!!! Finally beat Wyle E to something!!!! Jason Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 13:27:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 06:27:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! In-Reply-To: <3C31605B.98E6738@snaptek.com> Message-ID: Congratulations! Not to dampen your New Year achievement, but is there a Y2002 bug in your stats page? Everything shows up as archived, wrong dates (year), and more. I wanted to go see what cache you found right after midnight. Or maybe it's just doing some maintenance right now? Besides, the service you're providing with the website is much greater than anything we've been accused of; oops - I mean accomplished. We know it takes a lot of time and resources. Thanks!!!! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason Poulter Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 12:08 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! Ya I have the first post of the year 2002!!! Finally beat Wyle E to something!!!! Jason Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 1 15:41:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:41:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020101154142.89568.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> When checking cache statistics, every cache that has been archived, and had a find, is marked as last found in 2002. Non-archived caches appear normally but at the bottom of the date ordered list. Eric Team Dragon --- Larry Farquhar wrote: Congratulations! Not to dampen your New Year achievement, but is there a Y2002 bug in your stats page? Everything shows up as archived, wrong dates (year), and more. I wanted to go see what cache you found right after midnight. Or maybe it's just doing some maintenance right now? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 01:49:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:49:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Yellow Jeep needs a bath Message-ID: <3C326745.45D4F8A8@primenet.com> My little white Mazda had no problems passing the dirty yellow jeep on the freeway going west around 7:20 AM this morning. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 02:41:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 19:41:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg Message-ID: Wow, kind of wierd seeing your nickname as a subject line. Anyway srdrake if you really want to get into name calling and all the other negative stuff that you want to pull the list into please fell free to email off-list. We simply want our info off, nothing more, don't want to beat a dead horse or an alive one for that matter. I don't have any cheese with me so wine is out of the question. I don't feel like I have to go into anymore detail about this then I already have. Just a simple request. Also srdrake, next time you post an email like that again make sure you would say it to their face as well if they were standing there. There really is no need for it and keyboard courage really doesn't get you very far with anyone that I know or any list that I'm a member of. We are all adults here. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- If you don't want your cache visits showing up as stats, then enter all your logs as note logs rather than found it logs. If you don't want your cache visits to be known about by others because the information is too private, then don't voluntarily enter logs when you find caches. No one requires logs to be entered when finding a cache. It's voluntary. In fact, there are many geocachers who don't log their visits on the website. Sometime when you're at a cache, look at the number of people who have visited the cache. Later look at how many people posted successful logs. Frankly, I don't know which team you are of the 500+ that show up in the Snaptek list. And really, I don't care which team you are. And, whether or not you find a cache or not doesn't enter into whether I enjoy the hobby or not. If the statistics on the Snaptek site are ruining your enjoyment for the hobby, then I wonder how strong your enjoyment was in the hobby before you saw the Snaptek statistics. Sorry everyone. I'm just tired of the dead horse that Baja Fleg continues to beat and whine about. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 03:12:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:12:05 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Not to dampen your New Year achievement, but is there a Y2002 bug in your > stats page? Everything shows up as archived, wrong dates (year), and more. I > wanted to go see what cache you found right after midnight. Or maybe it's > just doing some maintenance right now? Short Version: All Fixed :) Long Version: Well, I got to dive into part of the code that I had never seen before.... Jason's go out and get the stuff of the official site code. Anyway, what it boiled down to is the way Jeremy displays dates on the cache pages which is, if it was logged in the year that we are in don't display the year, otherwise, display it. Since the way the site currently works is to grab all the live pages and update from scratch every time when it got to the archived ones it parsed them as usual, but since they were all pulled last year they weren't showing the year for any of the dates, so the code assumed the current year and wrote everything as 2002. ...so with a Y2ANY bug in place I decided to get around to writing the "Craw pages that you have to be logged in for" code.... so now we can be up to date with people logging archived caches (I don't know why this happens as often as it does), and get rid of the "out of state" cache stat being wrong. I'll probably only have it update the archived ones every few days though, so we arent beating up the official site grabbing caches that arent changing. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 02:50:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:50:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Message-ID: I was wondering if any of the ladies out there, whether you are cachers or not, would be interested in a ladies night out. I'd like to put one together if there's enough interest. Guys, if you're reading this, pass the info on to your significant other and see what she says. I think it would be fun to get to know one another a little better. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Mimi Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 03:22:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:22:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Message-ID: <20020101.202207.-850867.1.peakbagger2@juno.com> Then again, how about passing this along to single ladies who want to meet all the macho cachers. :o) :o) On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:50:50 -0700 "Ed Philpott" writes: > I was wondering if any of the ladies out there, whether you are > cachers or > not, would be interested in a ladies night out. I'd like to put > one > together if there's enough interest. Guys, if you're reading this, > pass the > info on to your significant other and see what she says. I think it > would be > fun to get to know one another a little better. Let me know what you > think. > > Thanks, > > Mimi > Trail Gypsy > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 04:12:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 04:12:45 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Message-ID:

Mimi,

Great idea!!!  I would love to meet the other GeoCaching females, single or not (sorry guy ladies only)   Just tell me when and where.  Will invite my part time tag along female friend who caches with us. 

Cheryl  of Team CBx2.

>
>
>On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:50:50 -0700 "Ed Philpott"
> writes:
> > I was wondering if any of the ladies out there, whether you are
> > cachers or
> > not, would be interested in a ladies night out. I'd like to put
> > one
> > together if there's enough interest. Guys, if you're reading this,
> > pass the
> > info on to your significant other and see what she says. I think it
> > would be
> > fun to get to know one another a little better. Let me know what you
> > think.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mimi
> > Trail Gypsy
> >
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From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 04:13:38 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:13:38 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out References: Message-ID: <001c01c19343$dd070040$b1520d82@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C19309.2E8F0C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like the idea also libby ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cheryl Brown=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Mimi, Great idea!!! I would love to meet the other GeoCaching females, = single or not (sorry guy ladies only) Just tell me when and where. = Will invite my part time tag along female friend who caches with us. =20 Cheryl of Team CBx2. >=20 >=20 >On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:50:50 -0700 "Ed Philpott"=20 > writes:=20 > > I was wondering if any of the ladies out there, whether you are=20 > > cachers or=20 > > not, would be interested in a ladies night out. I'd like to put=20 > > one=20 > > together if there's enough interest. Guys, if you're reading this, = > > pass the=20 > > info on to your significant other and see what she says. I think = it=20 > > would be=20 > > fun to get to know one another a little better. Let me know what = you=20 > > think.=20 > >=20 > > Thanks,=20 > >=20 > > Mimi=20 > > Trail Gypsy=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________=20 > > Az-Geocaching mailing list=20 > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching=20 > >=20 >_______________________________________________=20 >Az-Geocaching mailing list=20 >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click = Here _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing = list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com = http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C19309.2E8F0C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like the idea also
libby
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Mimi,

Great idea!!!  I would love to meet the other GeoCaching = females,=20 single or not (sorry guy ladies only)   Just tell me when = and=20 where.  Will invite my part time tag along female friend who = caches with=20 us. 

Cheryl  of Team CBx2.

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_______________________________________________ = Az-Geocaching=20 mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C19309.2E8F0C40-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 09:42:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:42:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Even more stats :) Message-ID: I've just finished up the graphs that I started a while ago. Some of you might have noticed the graphs of caches hidden per month. There is now: -Caches Hidden Per Month -All Cache Activity Per month -Cache Finds Per Month -Lost Caches Per Month -Notes Per Month -Active Teams Per Month I also cleaned up the code (It's still really messy though) but you can't see any of that, but you can see the small amounts of face lift that I did on most of the stat pages. That should be a little more consistant now and easier to read under all the themes. They also should be nicer looking in general. The graphs should also be much easier to read than the old style that the numbers would run together when they got into the 3 digits. The new stuff is available at: http://geocaching.snaptek.com/monthlystats.html Enjoy... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 13:21:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:21:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Yellow Jeep needs a bath Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F35@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> I drive the speed limit. Were you breaking the law??? :) Put a geocaching bumper sticker on your car and wave next time! You caught me heading West to discover a bunch of Puz-Zel's caches near Tonopah. Happy New Year! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Drake [mailto:srdrake@primenet.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 6:50 PM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Yellow Jeep needs a bath My little white Mazda had no problems passing the dirty yellow jeep on the freeway going west around 7:20 AM this morning. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 13:25:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:25:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F36@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> I had faith in you. I had read elsewhere that the way Jeremy displays dates for current year was causing someone else problems also. Thanks for the hard work. Just what you wanted to do on New Year's day - right? Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Cluff [mailto:brian@snaptek.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 8:12 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Happy New Year!!! First Post!!! > Not to dampen your New Year achievement, but is there a Y2002 bug in > your stats page? Everything shows up as archived, wrong dates (year), > and more. I wanted to go see what cache you found right after > midnight. Or maybe it's just doing some maintenance right now? Short Version: All Fixed :) Long Version: Well, I got to dive into part of the code that I had never seen before.... Jason's go out and get the stuff of the official site code. Anyway, what it boiled down to is the way Jeremy displays dates on the cache pages which is, if it was logged in the year that we are in don't display the year, otherwise, display it. Since the way the site currently works is to grab all the live pages and update from scratch every time when it got to the archived ones it parsed them as usual, but since they were all pulled last year they weren't showing the year for any of the dates, so the code assumed the current year and wrote everything as 2002. ...so with a Y2ANY bug in place I decided to get around to writing the "Craw pages that you have to be logged in for" code.... so now we can be up to date with people logging archived caches (I don't know why this happens as often as it does), and get rid of the "out of state" cache stat being wrong. I'll probably only have it update the archived ones every few days though, so we arent beating up the official site grabbing caches that arent changing. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 13:38:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 13:38:01 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Even more stats :) Message-ID: Brian, Thanks for all the hard work. We love your page. Team CBx2 >From: Brian Cluff >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: AZ-Geocaching >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Even more stats :) >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 02:42:40 -0700 (MST) > >I've just finished up the graphs that I started a while ago. Some of you >might have noticed the graphs of caches hidden per month. > >There is now: >-Caches Hidden Per Month >-All Cache Activity Per month >-Cache Finds Per Month >-Lost Caches Per Month >-Notes Per Month >-Active Teams Per Month > >I also cleaned up the code (It's still really messy though) but you can't >see any of that, but you can see the small amounts of face lift that I >did on most of the stat pages. That should be a little more consistant >now and easier to read under all the themes. They also should be nicer >looking in general. >The graphs should also be much easier to read than the old style that the >numbers would run together when they got into the 3 digits. > >The new stuff is available at: >http://geocaching.snaptek.com/monthlystats.html > >Enjoy... > >Brian Cluff >Team Snaptek > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 14:02:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 07:02:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Cache Seeking Teams Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F39@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> I sure love seeing all of the new teams and individuals seeking caches in Arizona! It wouldn't be so easy to see this activity without the stats provided by Snaptek. 181 active cachers in December!!!!! The stats page is always looking better! Thanks!!! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 14:31:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 07:31:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: To Baja Fleg References: <200201021430.HAA32114@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <3C3319CC.3DF80496@primenet.com> Michael, Glad you're not going to beat a dead horse (or a live one). The 3 times you issued your complaint publicly was enough. I don't think anyone missed it the first time. So can we assume that you're going to delete your logs off the geocaching.com website so that the information you voluntarily gave about your cache-hunting is no longer public? You can easily keep track of your cache-hunting pursuits in the privacy of a spreadsheet. There are other teams that do that. When someone continually makes a gripe publicly (that me and many others view as ridiculous), then it deserves a public response. Why did you not make your gripe directly to the Snaptek brothers via email rather than continually airing your gripe in the public (and archved) listserv? -Stephen From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 14:33:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 07:33:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: The Yellow Jeep needs a bath References: <200201021430.HAA32114@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <3C331A2B.F30DF4C2@primenet.com> Larry, Perhaps I should add racing stripes in addition to a geocaching symbol. I knew it was you because when I passed you on the left, I noticed your geocaching sticker. -Stephen From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 15:07:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:07:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hostage Rescue De-Brief Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F3A@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> In response to a message that a Team "Wyle E" goodwill ambassador (a Wile E Coyote pocketpal) had been taken hostage and was left in captivity at the "Hang'em High" cache, a rescue operation was immediately planned and flawlessly executed. 29 DEC 01 - 1800hrs(GMT) Found the hostage held captive at N31 42.701 W110 52.545. The attached pictures were taken to document the cruel treatment given by Team Cache-Quest. http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_200.jpg http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_300.jpg Just look into those innocent eyes, pleading for mercy. 30 DEC 01 - 0700hrs(GMT) After providing warm shelter, the Wile E Coyote goodwill ambassador was allowed a few days to recover from his ordeal. 1 JAN 02 - 2300hrs(GMT) A mission debriefing was conducted. While many details of the captivity and hostage rescue remain classified, the following excerpts of the debriefing report MUST be revealed to the public: Debriefer: "It's imperative we know how much Team Cache-Quest learned from you. Did you revel any of our secrets?" Wile E: "No.... I didn't... No... They acted like my friends at first, we were getting along real well." Debriefer: "But things turned around and they started asking about our secrets, didn't they?" Wile E: "Well, yes.... They demanded I tell them everything... But I didn't say anything!" Debriefer: "You've been a loyal goodwill ambassador for Team Wyle E, we know you were under severe stress during this ordeal. Come now, we must know what they learned from you. I promise, no punitive actions will be taken against you." Wile E: "Ahh... I held out as long as I could. They threatened to turn me into road kill. I, well... might have... I might have given out the secret to solving our Mission: Almost Impossible code. I'm soooo SORRY!" 02 JAN 02 - 1500hrs(GMT) Based on the above revealed information, THIS explains how Team Cache-Quest was able to easily, and quickly solve the encrypted clue to the Mission: Almost Impossible cache without visiting any of the optional clue locations. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 15:18:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 08:18:05 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Even more stats :) Message-ID: So when are you going to put up a sign up sheet so not everyone is forced into it and when are you taking our information down? Michael ----Original Message Follows---- I've just finished up the graphs that I started a while ago. Some of you might have noticed the graphs of caches hidden per month. There is now: -Caches Hidden Per Month -All Cache Activity Per month -Cache Finds Per Month -Lost Caches Per Month -Notes Per Month -Active Teams Per Month I also cleaned up the code (It's still really messy though) but you can't see any of that, but you can see the small amounts of face lift that I did on most of the stat pages. That should be a little more consistant now and easier to read under all the themes. They also should be nicer looking in general. The graphs should also be much easier to read than the old style that the numbers would run together when they got into the 3 digits. The new stuff is available at: http://geocaching.snaptek.com/monthlystats.html Enjoy... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 16:04:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:04:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Shut UP TJ!!! Message-ID: Michael & Terri, Please SHUT-UP. Your beating a dead horse to death. Team Snaptek is providing Geocaching community a great service. I really enjoy the stats and all the new features. As for your privacy, I suggest you delete your Geocaching account, turn off your internet provider, & throw your computer away. Oh wait, don't forget to scratch the magnetic strips off your credit cards, and please don't even think about filing your tax return. What the hell has happened to you two? I remember Team TJ being fun and adventurous, camping, laughing, joking, and what about Dakota? Has the New Mexican air shrunk your brains? Were you abducted by aliens? Maybe some medication would be in order. Please stop this insanity. Cody, Team CBX2 -----Original Message----- From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:18 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Even more stats :) So when are you going to put up a sign up sheet so not everyone is forced into it and when are you taking our information down? Michael ----Original Message Follows---- I've just finished up the graphs that I started a while ago. Some of you might have noticed the graphs of caches hidden per month. There is now: -Caches Hidden Per Month -All Cache Activity Per month -Cache Finds Per Month -Lost Caches Per Month -Notes Per Month -Active Teams Per Month I also cleaned up the code (It's still really messy though) but you can't see any of that, but you can see the small amounts of face lift that I did on most of the stat pages. That should be a little more consistant now and easier to read under all the themes. They also should be nicer looking in general. The graphs should also be much easier to read than the old style that the numbers would run together when they got into the 3 digits. The new stuff is available at: http://geocaching.snaptek.com/monthlystats.html Enjoy... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 17:12:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Even more stats :) Message-ID: Baja Fleg, If you'd simply delete your voluntary logs from geocaching.com then your wishes would come true. You voluntarily give information and are upset because someone might actually look at it? Go delete the information yourself. Quit whining and complaining and take responsibility for yourself. Geez... Baja Fleg, I believe the sign up sheet was the online registration form you filled out when you first registered on geocaching.com and then voluntarily logged the information of your cache visits. It's interesting how you reason that something you choose to do voluntarily is someone else's fault. I love the stats. I'd love to see more stats. Keep the stats coming. Great job Snaptek brothers!!!! I enjoy seeing what others are doing in this hobby. -srdrake Baja Fleg again beats a dead horse by saying for at least the 4th time: >>So when are you going to put up a sign up sheet so not everyone is forced >>into it and when are you taking our information down? >>Michael From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 17:20:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:20:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats question Message-ID: I find that sometime the Snaptek stats aren't exactly correct. I have a theory. I have found 88 caches: 63 in AZ, 23 in CA and 2 in SC (25 not in AZ). Sometimes the Snaptek stats are correct (showing 25 not in AZ). Sometimes the Snaptek stats are incorrect (like now showing 26 not in AZ). My theory: The datafarming of stats in AZ only occurs once a day. But the total caches done is grabbed from the geocaching site all the time. If I enter a new log, it shows up as non-AZ until the website goes and farms all the specific AZ cache data. Am I right? Anyone else noticed this? -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 18:11:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:11:12 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Stats question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have found 88 caches: 63 in AZ, 23 in CA and 2 in SC (25 not in AZ). > > Sometimes the Snaptek stats are correct (showing 25 not in AZ). Sometimes > the Snaptek stats are incorrect (like now showing 26 not in AZ). > > My theory: The datafarming of stats in AZ only occurs once a day. But the > total caches done is grabbed from the geocaching site all the time. If I > enter a new log, it shows up as non-AZ until the website goes and farms all > the specific AZ cache data. All the stats should be updated every time it does it's crawl with the exception of archived caches. If you just recently made a change on an archived cache then there with be a slight varience in your actual stats to what is shown. The change you made would have had to have been within the last couple of day because I had to upgrade the archived info for the new years bug we had. I plan to get the archived caches updateing once a day or maybe once every other day fairly soon so that there will only be short amounts of time where the stats aren't totally correct. I don't really want to crawl the archived caches more than that due to the fact that most of the time they don't change and it's just a wasted of internet for Jeremy and us to do them any more. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 18:05:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:05:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Snaptek Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F4E@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> By the way - what does SNAPTEK stand for - or mean? Larry Farquhar From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 18:34:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:34:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Team Snaptek In-Reply-To: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F4E@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: > By the way - what does SNAPTEK stand for - or mean? There is a lot of history to that word.... Jason and I grew up as neighbors (he lived behind me). We tended to have almost the exact same interests the goals and hung out so much that even to this day we can tell what the other person is going to say a lot of the time. Anyway, some time when we were your we start replacing a lot of the english language with the word snap. I think is was Jason that started it all. We later decided that snap was an acronym for "Super gNarly All-purpose Phrase". Years later and having grown up quite a bit we decided that we needed to make some money off our love for all techknowlegy type things and we decided to go under the name snaptek of couse changing tech to tek just to be a little different. We started out doing 3D rendered graphics and have since moved on to mostly doing Linux related stuff. I don't know if you even chopped the geocaching off of the domain or not to get http://snaptek.com, but if you did you would find a site, horribly in need of an update, that I threw up years ago to show off some of the graphical talents we had going. The only problem is that I never really put much of a gallery up to look at, it really only is the first page. Anyway, these days it just means anything that has to do with techknowledy with Jason and I. (Like a GPS :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 18:42:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:42:20 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Brian, I think you hit the nail on the head. I compared your list of 62 caches done in AZ with the 63 caches don in AZ off the geocaching.com list. The difference is that your list isn't counting Rancho (which has been archived within the last few days). So, your AZ total isn't counting that one and it shows up as part of the non-AZ total when you subtract your AZ count from the total done. As I look closer, I see this is true of everyone else's cache totals. Thanks for the explanation. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 18:48:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Message-ID: As Offtrail and I went up Table Mesa yesterday, we looked like 2 hiking geeks. Both playing with our GPSs the entire way. Watching as we went from 0.32 to 0.31 to 0.30 miles from the cache. In reality, only one GPS was needed and we could basically see where we needed to hike to without the constant need to be playing with the GPS. I imagine initial assault to Bronco Butte was the same way, except there were 4 guys fiddling with GPSs the entire time. I wonder... Is a GPS just a reason to do some hiking or is hiking a reason to go play with a GPS? ...just pondering life's biggest questions. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 19:13:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 12:13:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020102121301.00a389c0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 11:48 AM 1/2/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I wonder... Is a GPS just a reason to do some hiking or is hiking a reason >to go play with a GPS? Yes. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 20:41:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Michael Colburn) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:41:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking Message-ID: <20020102204159.19208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> I'm rather new to GeoCaching, and wanted to know which caches around Phoenix would make a good mountain bike ride too? Like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups.. the two go good together!! Anything in the McDowell Mountains, South Mountain, Sqaw Peak?? - Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 21:10:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:10:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking In-Reply-To: <20020102204159.19208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020102211053.37271.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> There are several caches around each of South Mountain, North Mountain and Squaw Peak. Caches tend to get placed higher up so you may need to leave the bike and hike for a bit but biking to or close to is possible with many caches in those three areas. The ratings pages show that anything with a terrain rating of more than 3 is not likely to be bikeable. Of course, some people don't use the standardized ratings pages, shoosing to pick number out of the air instead, but it is a guide. Eric Team Dragon --- Michael Colburn wrote: I'm rather new to GeoCaching, and wanted to know which caches around Phoenix would make a good mountain bike ride too? Like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups.. the two go good together!! Anything in the McDowell Mountains, South Mountain, Sqaw Peak?? - Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 21:40:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:40:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking In-Reply-To: <20020102204159.19208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020102214030.34969.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Michael, The Cone Mountain cache is located in the area NE of Pima Rd. and Dynamite Blvd. It is a prime mountain biking area. The cache is located off the Dare-a-Sara trail. You need a map to see the trail names since they aren't marked with signs. There are also some in South Mountain Park, however those aren't right next to a trail. Where is the Dam Cache is located in the North Mountain Preserve. Most of it is accessible with a bike, but the last part is not. In the Shadow of the Pyramid is also accessible with a bike, once you figure out where it's located in the state. Miner's Spirit can also be done on a bike, although there are some spots that my son hated on his. You just have to stay out of the wash and keep on the "trail". It's a Mushroom is also a good one to go to on a bike. You can get fairly close, and the last little bit is off bike. It's isolated enough that you can leave your bike on the trail and not worry about it. Bob --- Michael Colburn wrote: > I'm rather new to GeoCaching, and wanted to know > which > caches around Phoenix would make a good mountain > bike > ride too? Like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups.. the two > go > good together!! Anything in the McDowell Mountains, > South Mountain, Sqaw Peak?? > > - Mike > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:17:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Message-ID: <20020102.151731.-1559423.3.peakbagger2@juno.com> In logic theory, a conditional statement can be stated in "if, then" form. For example, "if I have a reason play with my GPS, then I have a reason to hike." The reverse, called the converse, would be, "if I have a reason to hike, then I have a reason to play with my GPS." The converse of a conditional statement is not in general true, but if they happen to both be true they are called a biconditional. So the answer to your question is that your statements are a biconditional. Or in the word of Scott Wood, "yes." Jerry-Offtrail On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:48:31 -0700 srdrake@srpnet.com writes: > As Offtrail and I went up Table Mesa yesterday, we looked like 2 > hiking > geeks. Both playing with our GPSs the entire way. Watching as we > went from > 0.32 to 0.31 to 0.30 miles from the cache. In reality, only one GPS > was > needed and we could basically see where we needed to hike to without > the > constant need to be playing with the GPS. > > I imagine initial assault to Bronco Butte was the same way, except > there > were 4 guys fiddling with GPSs the entire time. > > I wonder... Is a GPS just a reason to do some hiking or is hiking > a reason > to go play with a GPS? > > ...just pondering life's biggest questions. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:31:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:31:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Unwritten Rules Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C193DD.2F24F050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hey folks, just found and signed up for the list serve today. This looks like a perfect forum for the gurus of geocaching. Here's my question: Would you consider it politic to visit a cache more than once for items that are desired? For example, a travel bug, or a certain tool, etc. It seems to me that more or less if a bug or other item is in a location that has already been visited, that the cacher waits until it is moved to a location not yet found by said cacher. BUT...I could just be looking in the wrong place, as we've all done. Thoughts?? Rob "Team CHUMP" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C193DD.2F24F050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252"
Hey folks,  just found and signed up for the list serve today.
This looks like a perfect forum for the gurus of geocaching.
 
Here's my question:  Would you consider it politic to visit
a cache more than once for items that are desired?  For
example, a travel bug, or a certain tool, etc.  It seems to me
that more or less if a bug or other item is in a location that
has already been visited, that the cacher waits until it is moved
to a location not yet found by said cacher.   BUT...I could just
be looking in the wrong place, as we've all done.
 
Thoughts??
 
Rob "Team CHUMP"
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C193DD.2F24F050-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:39:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:39:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Unwritten Rules Message-ID: Team CHUMP, It's ok to visit a cache a 2nd or 3rd time. I think the protocol for an additional visit is to enter a note log rather than another found it log. For example, several of us have made a second visit to Bach Fest II in order to get the secret number for Chain Cache. I'm likely to make a quick visit to a cache after work because I want the travel bug out of it to place elsewhere. I know some people who will check on a cache if they're in the area. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:54:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:54:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Unwritten Rules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here's my question: Would you consider it politic to visit > a cache more than once for items that are desired? For > example, a travel bug, or a certain tool, etc. It seems to me > that more or less if a bug or other item is in a location that > has already been visited, that the cacher waits until it is moved > to a location not yet found by said cacher. BUT...I could just > be looking in the wrong place, as we've all done. Well, the way I understand it, a travel bug in kind of a cache of it's own that just happens to be inside of another cache. If you haven't "done" the cache bug before, I don't see why you shouldn't do liberate it from it's holding place if there is some reason that you want that particular bug. Now if you've had the bug before it might be nice to leave it for someone that hasn't carted that particular bug around yet. They are kinda their own thing, so I would guess that it's a play it by ear type of thing. (We don't have stats on them YET :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:43:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:43:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Here's yet another stats site. http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?country=United%20Sta tes&state=Arizona Cody Team CBX2 -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:42 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Brian, I think you hit the nail on the head. I compared your list of 62 caches done in AZ with the 63 caches don in AZ off the geocaching.com list. The difference is that your list isn't counting Rancho (which has been archived within the last few days). So, your AZ total isn't counting that one and it shows up as part of the non-AZ total when you subtract your AZ count from the total done. As I look closer, I see this is true of everyone else's cache totals. Thanks for the explanation. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 22:59:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:59:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C193E1.3006C800 Content-Type: text/plain Congratulations to Team TJ on their 100th find. Who will be next? C'mon N4/C... Kind of ironic since they want their privacy yet continue to find caches and log them to the website. Cody, Team CBX2 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C193E1.3006C800 Content-Type: text/html Message
Congratulations to Team TJ on their 100th find.  Who will be next?  C'mon N4/C...  Kind of ironic since they want their privacy yet continue to find caches and log them to the website.
 
Cody,
Team CBX2
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C193E1.3006C800-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 23:03:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:03:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: <20020102.160313.-1559423.6.peakbagger2@juno.com> This is an interesting and enlightening piece of information. How many stats sites are out there? Jerry On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:43:33 -0700 Cody Brown writes: > Here's yet another stats site. > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?country=United%20 Sta > tes&state=Arizona > > > Cody > Team CBX2 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:42 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > > Brian, > I think you hit the nail on the head. I compared your list of > 62 caches > done in AZ with the 63 caches don in AZ off the geocaching.com list. > The > difference is that your list isn't counting Rancho (which has been > archived > within the last few days). So, your AZ total isn't counting that > one and it > shows up as part of the non-AZ total when you subtract your AZ count > from > the total done. As I look closer, I see this is true of everyone > else's > cache totals. Thanks for the explanation. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 23:17:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:17:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here's yet another stats site. > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?country=United%20Sta > tes&state=Arizona Jason showed that one to me the other day... I still haven't found a site yet that even starts to break it down as much as we are.... and I'm still working on new stuff. :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 23:16:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 18:16:17 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... Message-ID: <166.68973ab.2964eec2@aol.com> Thanks, Cody, for the encouragement... But, I feel kinda bad that I'll get to the '100' mark before placing my own cache... This is very bad for my Cache-Karma. I'll probably be opening my 100th, and the top of the ammo container will slam shut on my finger, severing it, forcing me to rename myself, 'n4/c-1'... Hmm. I'd better place one soon.. (said while noticing dark clouds swirling above).. :) -Mike- (n4/c, currently posessing all of his digits, for now..) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 00:00:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:00:27 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question In-Reply-To: <20020102.160313.-1559423.6.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: > This is an interesting and enlightening piece of information. How many > stats sites are out there? There are quite a few, but most of them are just general stats, there are only a hand full that have specific stats like on http://geocaching.snaptek.com Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 00:13:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:13:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... In-Reply-To: <166.68973ab.2964eec2@aol.com> Message-ID: > But, I feel kinda bad that I'll get to the '100' mark before placing > my own cache... This is very bad for my Cache-Karma. I'll probably be > opening my 100th, and the top of the ammo container will slam shut on > my finger, severing it, forcing me to rename myself, 'n4/c-1'... > > Hmm. I'd better place one soon.. (said while noticing dark clouds > swirling above).. :) Just in case you haven't figured it out (it's fairly obvious), the cache karma is just a 1:20 ratio, so you would have to hide 4 to break even. The first 20 are a given, since you can't really expect someone to hide a cache right away just to get a positive karma. Ive been thinking about have a user setable karma so that you can quickly see if you are living up to your own standards, and not just ours , but I have no way of telling if a team is really who they say they are, so there probably won't be anything like that anytime soon, since I would have to do something like ask for your geocaching.com password then then check to see if it successfully logs you in, but then I would end up with everyones password that chooses to participate and thats information I don't want. I really wouldn't want the possibility of any fingers pointed at Team Snaptek if anything ever get screwed up on the official site. I suppose that I could make a cache on the official site and have some sort of unique code key that you could put into a found entry, and so all teams that get an account on the snaptek site and have the correct code key put in will be properly authenticated.... that might be cool! Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 00:15:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:15:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: <20020102.171514.-1559423.7.peakbagger2@juno.com> Except for one offhand comment a day or two ago, I've purposely stayed out of the discussion concerning individual cacher's rights to not be included in the snaptek stat site. But if there are even a handful of other similar sites (meaning like 7-8?) that list individual team stats, it seems that no matter which side you agree with, non-inclusion of posted information is a losing battle. Jerry-Offtrail On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:00:27 -0700 (MST) Brian Cluff writes: > > This is an interesting and enlightening piece of information. How > many > > stats sites are out there? > > There are quite a few, but most of them are just general stats, > there are > only a hand full that have specific stats like on > http://geocaching.snaptek.com > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 13:36:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:36:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hostage Rescue De-Brief References: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F3A@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <004d01c19392$72e98760$6501a8c0@Home> Debriefer? Sounds like someone in a Michael Jordan commercial. Darn! I knew I made it too easy and now everyone knows where I got the solution to Mission Impossible. I should have made some more threats and gotten the numbers to the Chain Cache. I visit the caches and forget to look up darn code in the log book and then I have to go back. I've done that twice now and it is getting a little old (or I am). By the way, my daughter found another Team "Wyle E" ambassador last week. She thinks he's cute and wants to keep him, but I have other plans. Remember the ol' cartoons with the damsel tied to the railroad tracks? Does anyone know where there are some abandoned railroad tracks? I need to place another cache and I'll make that little coyote give me those darn numbers for the Chain Cache. Thanks for a good laugh, Larry! Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farquhar, Larry" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hostage Rescue De-Brief > In response to a message that a Team "Wyle E" goodwill ambassador (a Wile E > Coyote pocketpal) had been taken hostage and was left in captivity at the > "Hang'em High" cache, a rescue operation was immediately planned and > flawlessly executed. > > > 29 DEC 01 - 1800hrs(GMT) > Found the hostage held captive at N31 42.701 W110 52.545. The attached > pictures were taken to document the cruel treatment given by Team > Cache-Quest. > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_200.jpg > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_300.jpg > Just look into those innocent eyes, pleading for mercy. > > > 30 DEC 01 - 0700hrs(GMT) > After providing warm shelter, the Wile E Coyote goodwill ambassador was > allowed a few days to recover from his ordeal. > > > 1 JAN 02 - 2300hrs(GMT) > A mission debriefing was conducted. While many details of the captivity and > hostage rescue remain classified, the following excerpts of the debriefing > report MUST be revealed to the public: > > Debriefer: "It's imperative we know how much Team Cache-Quest learned from > you. Did you revel any of our secrets?" > > Wile E: "No.... I didn't... No... They acted like my friends at first, we > were getting along real well." > > Debriefer: "But things turned around and they started asking about our > secrets, didn't they?" > > Wile E: "Well, yes.... They demanded I tell them everything... But I didn't > say anything!" > > Debriefer: "You've been a loyal goodwill ambassador for Team Wyle E, we know > you were under severe stress during this ordeal. Come now, we must know what > they learned from you. I promise, no punitive actions will be taken against > you." > > Wile E: "Ahh... I held out as long as I could. They threatened to turn me > into road kill. I, well... might have... I might have given out the secret > to solving our Mission: Almost Impossible code. I'm soooo SORRY!" > > > 02 JAN 02 - 1500hrs(GMT) > Based on the above revealed information, THIS explains how Team Cache-Quest > was able to easily, and quickly solve the encrypted clue to the Mission: > Almost Impossible cache without visiting any of the optional clue locations. > > > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 2 13:56:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 06:56:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? References: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F3A@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <007701c19395$48285ee0$6501a8c0@Home> Larry, the pictures you took turned out real nice. I tried to take some pictures of the captive to post to the web site, but they didn't turn out. I often take one of those disposable cameras with me to document our adventures. My logic has been that if I lose it or drop it, it isn't any big deal. The problem is that the pictures don't come out so great and developing film is expensive. Does anyone have any recommendations on good cameras for geocaching? I'd like something light and digital would be nice, but how does a digital camera hold up to geocaching? Happy New Year! Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farquhar, Larry" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hostage Rescue De-Brief > In response to a message that a Team "Wyle E" goodwill ambassador (a Wile E > Coyote pocketpal) had been taken hostage and was left in captivity at the > "Hang'em High" cache, a rescue operation was immediately planned and > flawlessly executed. > > > 29 DEC 01 - 1800hrs(GMT) > Found the hostage held captive at N31 42.701 W110 52.545. The attached > pictures were taken to document the cruel treatment given by Team > Cache-Quest. > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_200.jpg > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_300.jpg > Just look into those innocent eyes, pleading for mercy. > > > 30 DEC 01 - 0700hrs(GMT) > After providing warm shelter, the Wile E Coyote goodwill ambassador was > allowed a few days to recover from his ordeal. > > > 1 JAN 02 - 2300hrs(GMT) > A mission debriefing was conducted. While many details of the captivity and > hostage rescue remain classified, the following excerpts of the debriefing > report MUST be revealed to the public: > > Debriefer: "It's imperative we know how much Team Cache-Quest learned from > you. Did you revel any of our secrets?" > > Wile E: "No.... I didn't... No... They acted like my friends at first, we > were getting along real well." > > Debriefer: "But things turned around and they started asking about our > secrets, didn't they?" > > Wile E: "Well, yes.... They demanded I tell them everything... But I didn't > say anything!" > > Debriefer: "You've been a loyal goodwill ambassador for Team Wyle E, we know > you were under severe stress during this ordeal. Come now, we must know what > they learned from you. I promise, no punitive actions will be taken against > you." > > Wile E: "Ahh... I held out as long as I could. They threatened to turn me > into road kill. I, well... might have... I might have given out the secret > to solving our Mission: Almost Impossible code. I'm soooo SORRY!" > > > 02 JAN 02 - 1500hrs(GMT) > Based on the above revealed information, THIS explains how Team Cache-Quest > was able to easily, and quickly solve the encrypted clue to the Mission: > Almost Impossible cache without visiting any of the optional clue locations. > > > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 02:25:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? In-Reply-To: <007701c19395$48285ee0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20020103022506.51366.qmail@web13106.mail.yahoo.com> I've taken my digital camera out many times and haven't had a problem. A friend bought my daughter a beginner's digital camera. It does 640x480 and 800x600 resolution, has a flash and timer but no zoom. They run $50 at Amazon but he said he got it for $20, I presume at Fry's. It's called the Jam Camera, the web site is http://www.jamonline.com Eric Team Dragon --- Team Cache-Quest wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations on good cameras for geocaching? I'd like something light and digital would be nice, but how does a digital camera hold up to geocaching? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:19:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? In-Reply-To: <007701c19395$48285ee0$6501a8c0@Home> References: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC29F3A@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020102201812.027d1b00@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 06:56 AM 1/2/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone have any recommendations on good cameras for geocaching? I'd >like something light and digital would be nice, but how does a digital >camera hold up to geocaching? Mine is a coupe years old now and they have better out, but I use a Sony DSC-S30 which I really like. I have taken it on all of my geocaching trips so far with no trouble. Granted, I haven't dropped it or anything, but it has held up very well being in my bag while out in the desert. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:18:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:18:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Unwritten Rules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I agree. Travel bugs are their "own" traveling cache. Pretty soon we'll be driving across the state just to collect a travel bug we've never had... not this team! We'll take it if there's one in the cache, but I can't see myself going to a cache with getting a traveler as the main reason. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Brian Cluff Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 3:54 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Unwritten Rules > Here's my question: Would you consider it politic to visit > a cache more than once for items that are desired? For > example, a travel bug, or a certain tool, etc. It seems to me > that more or less if a bug or other item is in a location that > has already been visited, that the cacher waits until it is moved > to a location not yet found by said cacher. BUT...I could just > be looking in the wrong place, as we've all done. Well, the way I understand it, a travel bug in kind of a cache of it's own that just happens to be inside of another cache. If you haven't "done" the cache bug before, I don't see why you shouldn't do liberate it from it's holding place if there is some reason that you want that particular bug. Now if you've had the bug before it might be nice to leave it for someone that hasn't carted that particular bug around yet. They are kinda their own thing, so I would guess that it's a play it by ear type of thing. (We don't have stats on them YET :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:21:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 20:21:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson's first multi part Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020102202006.027d2210@mail.myblueheaven.com> --=====================_502603==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have finally got everything in place for Tucson's first multi part cache. I just entered the info on the geocaching web page and might edit the description when I have a little more time, but the link is: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12282 Hope that everyone who takes the time to find this one enjoys it. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache --=====================_502603==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I have finally got everything in place for Tucson's first multi part cache.

I just entered the info on the geocaching web page and might edit the description when I have a little more time, but the link is:

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12282

Hope that everyone who takes the time to find this one enjoys it.


Scott
Team My Blue Heaven
--=====================_502603==_.ALT-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:20:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:20:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C193CA.E98B9380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageCongratulations Team TJ on your century find! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Cody Brown Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:00 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... Congratulations to Team TJ on their 100th find. Who will be next? C'mon N4/C... Kind of ironic since they want their privacy yet continue to find caches and log them to the website. Cody, Team CBX2 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C193CA.E98B9380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Congratulations Team TJ on your century = find!

Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle = E"
www.azjeeper.com

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com=20 [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of = Cody=20 Brown
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:00 = PM
To:=20 az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching]=20 Congratulations...

Congratulations to Team TJ on their 100th find.  Who = will be=20 next?  C'mon N4/C...  Kind of ironic since they want their = privacy=20 yet continue to find caches and log them to the = website.
 
Cody,
Team=20 CBX2
 
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C193CA.E98B9380-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:22:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Message-ID: It looks like there's enough of us interested to go out and have a fun time, let's go!!! Does anyone have a night that works best for them? I don't work, so I am flexible. Also, let me know where you are located so we can come up with a central location. Mimi Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 03:46:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:46:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? In-Reply-To: <007701c19395$48285ee0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: I love my Sony MVC-CD1000 digital camera. It records directly to a 3.5" CD-R. Sony has come out with smaller and better CD-R digital cameras since I got mine. However, these are not the smallest cameras and aren't convenient to carry while hiking (especially mine). There's plenty of good and affordable digital cameras available now. If the primary purpose is to view the pictures on the TV or computer, any newer digital camera will do a great job. If the main purpose is for printing, then there's many other factors to consider. Either way - in my book - digital is the only way to go! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team Cache-Quest Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 6:57 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? Larry, the pictures you took turned out real nice. I tried to take some pictures of the captive to post to the web site, but they didn't turn out. I often take one of those disposable cameras with me to document our adventures. My logic has been that if I lose it or drop it, it isn't any big deal. The problem is that the pictures don't come out so great and developing film is expensive. Does anyone have any recommendations on good cameras for geocaching? I'd like something light and digital would be nice, but how does a digital camera hold up to geocaching? Happy New Year! Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farquhar, Larry" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:07 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hostage Rescue De-Brief > In response to a message that a Team "Wyle E" goodwill ambassador (a Wile E > Coyote pocketpal) had been taken hostage and was left in captivity at the > "Hang'em High" cache, a rescue operation was immediately planned and > flawlessly executed. > > > 29 DEC 01 - 1800hrs(GMT) > Found the hostage held captive at N31 42.701 W110 52.545. The attached > pictures were taken to document the cruel treatment given by Team > Cache-Quest. > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_200.jpg > http://www.geocaching.com/cache/log/images/143672_300.jpg > Just look into those innocent eyes, pleading for mercy. > > > 30 DEC 01 - 0700hrs(GMT) > After providing warm shelter, the Wile E Coyote goodwill ambassador was > allowed a few days to recover from his ordeal. > > > 1 JAN 02 - 2300hrs(GMT) > A mission debriefing was conducted. While many details of the captivity and > hostage rescue remain classified, the following excerpts of the debriefing > report MUST be revealed to the public: > > Debriefer: "It's imperative we know how much Team Cache-Quest learned from > you. Did you revel any of our secrets?" > > Wile E: "No.... I didn't... No... They acted like my friends at first, we > were getting along real well." > > Debriefer: "But things turned around and they started asking about our > secrets, didn't they?" > > Wile E: "Well, yes.... They demanded I tell them everything... But I didn't > say anything!" > > Debriefer: "You've been a loyal goodwill ambassador for Team Wyle E, we know > you were under severe stress during this ordeal. Come now, we must know what > they learned from you. I promise, no punitive actions will be taken against > you." > > Wile E: "Ahh... I held out as long as I could. They threatened to turn me > into road kill. I, well... might have... I might have given out the secret > to solving our Mission: Almost Impossible code. I'm soooo SORRY!" > > > 02 JAN 02 - 1500hrs(GMT) > Based on the above revealed information, THIS explains how Team Cache-Quest > was able to easily, and quickly solve the encrypted clue to the Mission: > Almost Impossible cache without visiting any of the optional clue locations. > > > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 04:29:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:29:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020103042916.5664.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Mimi, First of all a belated Happy Birthday. Ed mentioned after Bronco Butte that he had to get home since it was your birthday. Then he stopped by at another cache on the way home. On you Ladies' Night Out, you should make it an event cache. Once you have a spot picked out, go ahead and create the cache with the date of the event as the date the cache was placed, and give any other info you want. That way, other cachers who aren't on this email list will see the cache and might attend, and all who do can get credit with a find. Have fun, Bob Renner --- Ed Philpott wrote: > It looks like there's enough of us interested to go > out and have a fun time, > let's go!!! Does anyone have a night that works > best for them? I don't > work, so I am flexible. Also, let me know where you > are located so we can > come up with a central location. > > Mimi > Trail Gypsy > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 06:51:43 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 06:51:43 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Message-ID: As far as Cody of Team cbx2 the only way he will climb a mountian is if there is a cache at the top. Have to get the husband to exercise anyway i can. We have come to love our cache time together. Cheryl of Team CBx2. >From: Scott Wood >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought >Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 12:13:13 -0700 > >At 11:48 AM 1/2/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >>I wonder... Is a GPS just a reason to do some hiking or is hiking a >>reason >>to go play with a GPS? > >Yes. >In liberty, > >Scott > >wood@myblueheaven.com >www.myblueheaven.com > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 07:18:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 07:18:03 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out Message-ID: I work M-F so maybe a Sat early evenig would be good. I also live in the Chandler area but am willing to travel. Let me know. Cheryl (Team CBx2) >From: "Ed Philpott" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies night out >Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 20:22:16 -0700 > >It looks like there's enough of us interested to go out and have a fun >time, >let's go!!! Does anyone have a night that works best for them? I don't >work, so I am flexible. Also, let me know where you are located so we can >come up with a central location. > >Mimi >Trail Gypsy > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching I _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 14:21:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Message-ID: I'm tentatively looking at Saturday the 12th around 6 p.m. Let me know if this is a problem, I'd like as many as possible to make it. Mimi Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 14:21:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out References: Message-ID: <001d01c19462$00127500$b1520d82@qwest.net> I can't make the 12 have a standing commitment the second sat of very month ... have a good time all libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Philpott" To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:21 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out > I'm tentatively looking at Saturday the 12th around 6 p.m. Let me know if > this is a problem, I'd like as many as possible to make it. > > Mimi > Trail Gypsy > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 20:02:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 20:02:09 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Message-ID: Any Sat. is good for me. Any ideas on were to go? Cheryl Team CBx2 >From: "Ed Philpott" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 07:21:10 -0700 > >I'm tentatively looking at Saturday the 12th around 6 p.m. Let me know if >this is a problem, I'd like as many as possible to make it. > >Mimi >Trail Gypsy > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 20:16:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:16:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching & Cameras - Any recommendations? In-Reply-To: <007701c19395$48285ee0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: > I often take one of those disposable cameras with me to document our > adventures. My logic has been that if I lose it or drop it, it isn't any > big deal. The problem is that the pictures don't come out so great and > developing film is expensive. > > Does anyone have any recommendations on good cameras for geocaching? I'd > like something light and digital would be nice, but how does a digital > camera hold up to geocaching? I think it boils down to how much care you give your camera. I've been hauling sevral thousand dollars worth of digiatal camera stuff for quite some time and have never has any problems. I just make sure that I keep it in it's padded case whenever it's not being used. What I would do is check out different digital camera sites that have reviews of cameras. A lot of them show you a some standard pictures they take so that you can see the quality of the picture. Then just find a camera in the approx. price range you have with an appealing look and pick it up. I would probably recommend something in the $300 to $500 range for geocacing. The just pick up a small camera bag that lets you get the camera in and out of easily. and you should be all set. Just make sure there is plenty of room for spare batteries. There is nothing worse than taking lots of pictures while on the way to the cache just to find that when you get to the cache your batteries are dead. Thats what happened to me at table mesa, I ended up using the spare batteries that were in the cache to take pictures of the cache. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 21:16:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:16:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] archived caches Message-ID: I just finished setting up the updating of the archived caches. They should be updated once per day at 4am as apposed to the normal information being updated once every 4 hours, so there could be short amounts of time where the stats are innaccurate, but that will never be for more than 24 hours. This should put a stop the innacuracies that have been poping up from time to time in the caches not in arizona field. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 22:16:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:16:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Archived Cache - Municipal Message-ID: <20020103221623.40877.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Municipal has been archived. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 3 22:54:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:54:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Archived Cache - Municipal In-Reply-To: <20020103221623.40877.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Municipal has been archived. Thanks I've updated the stats to reflect the change. In the future can you give me the weighpoint as well as the name. The geocache website stopps looking up names when they get archived and if the stats get updated since it was archived it disappears and I it gets hard to look up. Thanks, Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 4 16:06:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:06:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Message-ID: If any of you have any favorite places let me know, I know of at least one good place, it's in the Tempe area, I think! I think I will take Bob's advice and make a cache out of it, that way others will see the post and maybe join us. Hope to see all of you. Mimi Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 4 16:07:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 09:07:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] I won't make it to 100 this weekend Message-ID: <3C35D340.BDD02430@primenet.com> My poison oak is taking the interest out of doing a lot of physical activities. It is getting significantly better the last 24 hours. So, I probably won't hit 100 this weekend (original goal). I have 88. All bets are on N4/c being the next Arizona person to reach 100. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 00:17:24 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:17:24 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. Message-ID: I've just finished what a lot of those might have probably been waiting for stats wise. If you go to the "team stats" you will notice a new field that does the date of the first cache for that team. It's all the way on the right (it might be off your screen). ...It's nice to know what someone started, but thats not the really cool part. If you click on that date it will show you the the stats for all the teams, but all the information starts at the date of that teams first cache. Basicly if you have been caching for just a few months and only have a few caches you can click on your own date and see how you really measure up against the the people that have been cacheing for longer than you. I will soon be adding the capability to do spreads of dates so if you wanted to check how everyone did just over the summer you can. That should be comming very soon. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 00:37:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:37:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. Message-ID: <20020104.173721.-969073.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Here's something else to do in your spare time.... How about coding in the ability to sort by T and D scores and averages. Then we can see who has real standards and understands that quality is superior to quantity. OK, here we go with all the nasty replies from the 100+ folks. Thanks for the continuing work snaptek. Offtrail On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:17:24 -0700 (MST) Brian Cluff writes: > I've just finished what a lot of those might have probably been > waiting > for stats wise. > > If you go to the "team stats" you will notice a new field that does > the > date of the first cache for that team. It's all the way on the > right (it > might be off your screen). > ...It's nice to know what someone started, but thats not the really > cool > part. If you click on that date it will show you the the stats for > all > the teams, but all the information starts at the date of that teams > first > cache. > > Basicly if you have been caching for just a few months and only have > a few > caches you can click on your own date and see how you really measure > up > against the the people that have been cacheing for longer than you. > > I will soon be adding the capability to do spreads of dates so if > you > wanted to check how everyone did just over the summer you can. > That > should be comming very soon. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:07:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:07:20 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. In-Reply-To: <20020104.173721.-969073.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: That ability hasbeen there from the beginning (I believe). Just click on the heading. I think any column can be sorted by clicking on the heading. Clicking the same heading again reverses the sort order. Now.... The hardest Terrain or hardest Difficulty average was obtained by teams that found 1 cache. A single cache found rated at a 5 makes their average a - 5! They're good! (Just had to say something) :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jerry B Nelson Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:37 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. Here's something else to do in your spare time.... How about coding in the ability to sort by T and D scores and averages. Then we can see who has real standards and understands that quality is superior to quantity. OK, here we go with all the nasty replies from the 100+ folks. Thanks for the continuing work snaptek. Offtrail On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:17:24 -0700 (MST) Brian Cluff writes: > I've just finished what a lot of those might have probably been > waiting > for stats wise. > > If you go to the "team stats" you will notice a new field that does > the > date of the first cache for that team. It's all the way on the > right (it > might be off your screen). > ...It's nice to know what someone started, but thats not the really > cool > part. If you click on that date it will show you the the stats for > all > the teams, but all the information starts at the date of that teams > first > cache. > > Basicly if you have been caching for just a few months and only have > a few > caches you can click on your own date and see how you really measure > up > against the the people that have been cacheing for longer than you. > > I will soon be adding the capability to do spreads of dates so if > you > wanted to check how everyone did just over the summer you can. > That > should be comming very soon. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:40:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:40:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. In-Reply-To: <20020104.173721.-969073.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: > Here's something else to do in your spare time.... How about coding in > the ability to sort by T and D scores and averages. Then we can see who > has real standards and understands that quality is superior to quantity. > OK, here we go with all the nasty replies from the 100+ folks. It already does do that. That was one of my origional intentions with the stats. Just click on the title of the stats table and it will re-sort by that field. The only one that doesn't work on is the new "first cache" field, but thats just because it's brand new and I haven't gotten around to that yet. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:47:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:47:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Now.... The hardest Terrain or hardest Difficulty average was obtained > by teams that found 1 cache. A single cache found rated at a 5 makes > their average a - 5! They're good! (Just had to say something) :-) The scores are best used to break a tie, but then again there are so many ways to interpret the data that just about anyone can be a winner in some way... That is if you consider it a contest. I personally don't in the same way I don't consider the Guiness book of world reconds to be a contest. It's purely informational.... Unless you have too much time on your hands :) I know that Snaptek is one of the few teams that can say that for a short period of time that they had been to every cache in Arizona . I think bob might be another one... something that Larry can't even say... of course it was much easier when there was only 1 or 2 caches hehehe Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:57:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:57:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020105015717.4212.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Yep. Back when I started, I quickly found every cache in the entire state of Arizona. And I have the "First first" find for the state. None of these new cachers can match that ;) How things have changed! Bob Renner --- Brian Cluff wrote: ... > I know that Snaptek is one of the few teams that can > say that for a short > period of time that they had been to every cache in > Arizona . I > think bob might be another one... something that > Larry can't even say... > of course it was much easier when there was only 1 > or 2 caches hehehe ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 4 20:38:55 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:38:55 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ok, Someone fess up Message-ID: <3C3612DF.550A2FA5@primenet.com> When I got back to my car after doing the Willow Springs cache today, I found a grey baseball cap that says "Vision" on it that had been carefully placed on my driver's side mirror of my car. I was parked along the Apache Trail so it took some effort for someone to have put it there. I've seen this hat before, probably in another cache. Who put it there? Offtrail, is that the hat you pulled from the Table Mesa cache? I know I've mentioned in several logs and in the listserv what I drive so it could be anyone. Did I just miss having a geocacher sighting? -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 02:44:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:44:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Some real stats. Message-ID: <20020104.194433.-969073.1.peakbagger2@juno.com> Say, that does work. Looks like I have the highest T average in the category of all cachers who have found 13 or more in Arizona. I'm number 1 !! Offtrail On Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:47:07 -0700 (MST) Brian Cluff writes: > > Now.... The hardest Terrain or hardest Difficulty average was > obtained > > by teams that found 1 cache. A single cache found rated at a 5 > makes > > their average a - 5! They're good! (Just had to say something) > :-) > > The scores are best used to break a tie, but then again there are so > many > ways to interpret the data that just about anyone can be a winner in > some > way... That is if you consider it a contest. I personally don't in > the > same way I don't consider the Guiness book of world reconds to be a > contest. It's purely informational.... Unless you have too much > time on > your hands :) > > I know that Snaptek is one of the few teams that can say that for a > short > period of time that they had been to every cache in Arizona . > I > think bob might be another one... something that Larry can't even > say... > of course it was much easier when there was only 1 or 2 caches > hehehe > > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 02:47:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:47:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ok, Someone fess up Message-ID: <20020104.194759.-969073.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Wasn't me. I did Hundred Dollar today. Wasn't even near you. Not that I'd miss a chance to harass another cacher. I think I put a cap into Table Mesa. Offtrail On Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:38:55 -0700 Stephen Drake writes: > When I got back to my car after doing the Willow Springs cache today, > I > found a grey baseball cap that says "Vision" on it that had been > carefully placed on my driver's side mirror of my car. I was > parked > along the Apache Trail so it took some effort for someone to have > put it > there. I've seen this hat before, probably in another cache. Who > put > it there? Offtrail, is that the hat you pulled from the Table Mesa > cache? I know I've mentioned in several logs and in the listserv > what I > drive so it could be anyone. Did I just miss having a geocacher > sighting? > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 04:23:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:23:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking References: <20020102204159.19208.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C367FB4.F18830DD@snaptek.com> Senda De Tonto is right next to a good biking trail also!!! jason Michael Colburn wrote: > I'm rather new to GeoCaching, and wanted to know which > caches around Phoenix would make a good mountain bike > ride too? Like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups.. the two go > good together!! Anything in the McDowell Mountains, > South Mountain, Sqaw Peak?? > > - Mike > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 04:31:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:31:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <3C36819D.720D2E2A@snaptek.com> http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm jason From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:51:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:51:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cool... I'm #1 in AZ Message-ID: <3C365C27.6858D1D3@primenet.com> Since 11/24 (when I did my first AZ geocache), I'm #1 in Arizona. Me.. 63 n4/c.. 56 Wyle E.. 48 Trail Gypsy... 45 cache-quest... 33 Of course it hasn't updated to include the 2 caches I found today. (I haven't received an email in 36 hours. I think there's got to be a technical difficulty. Email that I've been sending to myself as a test hasn't even been delivered.) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 01:55:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 18:55:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hey Snaptek Brothers... Message-ID: <3C365D28.7AE3B11B@primenet.com> I think your standings since day of first cache has a glitch in it. It isn't including the caches done on that first day. I've done some checking with mine and others start day. The first day's caches are not counted. It only shows up 63 for me when I click on 11/24 when in fact I did 2 on 11/24 that aren't being counted (65 total). -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 06:09:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:09:49 -0700 Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking Message-ID: There are quiet a few caches around ASU and Papago Park (although Reservoir Dogs is currently MIA). The canals have some excellent jogging and biking trails. ASU often has some nice scenery as a side benefit too... Rob (Team CHUMP) -----Original Message----- From: Jason Poulter To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sent: 1/4/02 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GeoCaching/Mountain Biking Senda De Tonto is right next to a good biking trail also!!! jason Michael Colburn wrote: > I'm rather new to GeoCaching, and wanted to know which > caches around Phoenix would make a good mountain bike > ride too? Like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups.. the two go > good together!! Anything in the McDowell Mountains, > South Mountain, Sqaw Peak?? > > - Mike > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 06:29:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:29:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Hey Snaptek Brothers... In-Reply-To: <3C365D28.7AE3B11B@primenet.com> Message-ID: > I think your standings since day of first cache has a glitch in it. It > isn't including the caches done on that first day. I've done some > checking with mine and others start day. The first day's caches are not > counted. It only shows up 63 for me when I click on 11/24 when in fact > I did 2 on 11/24 that aren't being counted (65 total). Oops... looks like I need to change my > to a >= Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 06:32:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:32:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cool... I'm #1 in AZ In-Reply-To: <3C365C27.6858D1D3@primenet.com> Message-ID: > Since 11/24 (when I did my first AZ geocache), I'm #1 in Arizona. > > Me.. 63 > n4/c.. 56 > Wyle E.. 48 > Trail Gypsy... 45 > cache-quest... 33 Holy cow!!! is that when you started?..... and I thought Wyle E was finding them quickly!!! Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 05:19:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 22:19:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Thanks Jason Message-ID: <3C368CDB.9BFCD9@primenet.com> Jason, Thanks for sharing the url of that other stat site. I guess I'm ranked #101 in the world. I better get busy so I can be in the top 100. I'm ranked #9 in AZ, #142 in CA, and #97 in SC. Looking at the top world rankings, the best I can find is that someone has done caches in 14 different states. So far I just have 3 states. Will anyone do caches in all 50 states plus DC? -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 11:46:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 04:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake References: Message-ID: <005f01c195de$a7b7bf40$6501a8c0@Home> We hid a new cache out Apache Trail near Canyon Lake. It is not approved yet, but I thought I'd give everyone a fair start. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12421 Let the race begin! Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 5 12:48:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 05:48:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested References: <005f01c195de$a7b7bf40$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <003b01c195e7$444d86c0$6501a8c0@Home> My son and I came up with this idea for a geocaching contest. Before I start it, I'd to see if the Arizona Geocaching Community would be interested or have comments about the rules. Basically the game is a series of caches where teams are scored and slowly eliminated from the game. We (Team Cache-Quest) would hide the caches and organize the game, but not play. We thought we'd start with two 'tribes', one for southern Arizona and one for northern Arizona. That would give cachers outside the Phoenix area a fair chance to compete. Around mid-year the top contenders from the northern and southern tribe would be merged into a single tribe for the remainder of the year. For each cache, points would be assigned based on the order the teams found the cache. The lower the score the better. There would also be a time limit on each cache. If a team did not find the cache within the time limit, they would either be eliminated or receive penalty points (depending on the criteria for the individual cache). I'm thinking there would be about one cache every four to six weeks and contestants would have about three weeks to find the cache. That would allow people to plan around other activities. Of course, the quicker a team finds the caches the better score they receive. Caches would vary in type and difficulty over the course of the year. Since the caches are short lived, there would be no exchanging trinkets. To make sure the caches associated with the game were not 'raided' they would all have false coordinates except the first one. I would list the cache on geocaching.com and email the correct coordinates only to those teams still in the game. For the first cache I would hide one a northern one and a southern one and teams could find those caches to sign up for the tribes. Depending on the number of teams interested in playing, we would adjust the number of caches and how many and how fast teams get eliminated. I'd appreciate any constructive comments on this idea and if you would be interested in participating. Thanks, Jerry Neild Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 02:25:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:25:45 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested In-Reply-To: <003b01c195e7$444d86c0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: This sounds like an interesting idea, but I would probably not list the cache on geocaching.com unless it was a cache that everyone could participate in. I would either just announce the coordinates on the list and let it do from there, or I might be able to throw together some code on the snaptek site for tracking events such as those. ...or I would make all the caches into REAL caches that stay there after the game is over and just give the coordinates to the people participating in the game before they go up live on the official site. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek > My son and I came up with this idea for a geocaching contest. Before I > start it, I'd to see if the Arizona Geocaching Community would be interested > or have comments about the rules. > > Basically the game is a series of caches where teams are scored and slowly > eliminated from the game. We (Team Cache-Quest) would hide the caches and > organize the game, but not play. > > We thought we'd start with two 'tribes', one for southern Arizona and one > for northern Arizona. That would give cachers outside the Phoenix area a > fair chance to compete. Around mid-year the top contenders from the > northern and southern tribe would be merged into a single tribe for the > remainder of the year. > > For each cache, points would be assigned based on the order the teams found > the cache. The lower the score the better. There would also be a time limit > on each cache. If a team did not find the cache within the time limit, they > would either be eliminated or receive penalty points (depending on the > criteria for the individual cache). I'm thinking there would be about one > cache every four to six weeks and contestants would have about three weeks > to find the cache. That would allow people to plan around other activities. > Of course, the quicker a team finds the caches the better score they > receive. Caches would vary in type and difficulty over the course of the > year. Since the caches are short lived, there would be no exchanging > trinkets. > > To make sure the caches associated with the game were not 'raided' they > would all have false coordinates except the first one. I would list the > cache on geocaching.com and email the correct coordinates only to those > teams still in the game. For the first cache I would hide one a northern > one and a southern one and teams could find those caches to sign up for the > tribes. Depending on the number of teams interested in playing, we would > adjust the number of caches and how many and how fast teams get eliminated. > > I'd appreciate any constructive comments on this idea and if you would be > interested in participating. > > Thanks, > Jerry Neild > Team Cache-Quest > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > -- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 02:15:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 02:15:52 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake Message-ID: We came home from getting caches in this area to find out we passed one up!!!!! I guess we will have to make another trip. Team CBx2 >From: "Team Cache-Quest" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 04:46:46 -0700 > >We hid a new cache out Apache Trail near Canyon Lake. It is not approved >yet, but I thought I'd give everyone a fair start. > >http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12421 > >Let the race begin! > >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 04:44:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:44:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The story of my life... :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Cheryl Brown Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:16 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake We came home from getting caches in this area to find out we passed one up!!!!! I guess we will have to make another trip. Team CBx2 >From: "Team Cache-Quest" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New cache near Canyon Lake >Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 04:46:46 -0700 > >We hid a new cache out Apache Trail near Canyon Lake. It is not approved >yet, but I thought I'd give everyone a fair start. > >http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12421 > >Let the race begin! > >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 15:56:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 08:56:47 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested References: <005f01c195de$a7b7bf40$6501a8c0@Home> <003b01c195e7$444d86c0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <3C3873BF.970173F6@snaptek.com> sounds good as long as i am on Wyle E's team!!! jason Team Cache-Quest wrote: > My son and I came up with this idea for a geocaching contest. Before I > start it, I'd to see if the Arizona Geocaching Community would be interested > or have comments about the rules. > > Basically the game is a series of caches where teams are scored and slowly > eliminated from the game. We (Team Cache-Quest) would hide the caches and > organize the game, but not play. > > We thought we'd start with two 'tribes', one for southern Arizona and one > for northern Arizona. That would give cachers outside the Phoenix area a > fair chance to compete. Around mid-year the top contenders from the > northern and southern tribe would be merged into a single tribe for the > remainder of the year. > > For each cache, points would be assigned based on the order the teams found > the cache. The lower the score the better. There would also be a time limit > on each cache. If a team did not find the cache within the time limit, they > would either be eliminated or receive penalty points (depending on the > criteria for the individual cache). I'm thinking there would be about one > cache every four to six weeks and contestants would have about three weeks > to find the cache. That would allow people to plan around other activities. > Of course, the quicker a team finds the caches the better score they > receive. Caches would vary in type and difficulty over the course of the > year. Since the caches are short lived, there would be no exchanging > trinkets. > > To make sure the caches associated with the game were not 'raided' they > would all have false coordinates except the first one. I would list the > cache on geocaching.com and email the correct coordinates only to those > teams still in the game. For the first cache I would hide one a northern > one and a southern one and teams could find those caches to sign up for the > tribes. Depending on the number of teams interested in playing, we would > adjust the number of caches and how many and how fast teams get eliminated. > > I'd appreciate any constructive comments on this idea and if you would be > interested in participating. > > Thanks, > Jerry Neild > Team Cache-Quest > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 16:53:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 09:53:07 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested Message-ID: <3C3880F3.1A99BA6B@primenet.com> Some comments... (1) Should all caches be accessible for low clearance vehicles? (2) After the north and south tribes merge, would it then be the last person to the cache is eliminated or would there be voting? (3) Before the merge, would every member of the tribe be required to visit the cache or just one team member? Would the team have to get together and visit the cache together? (4) Will Baja Fleg (Team TJ) complain and gripe because you want to make geocaching competitive? (5) I'd like the opportunity to vote people out!!!! -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 17:51:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested In-Reply-To: <3C3880F3.1A99BA6B@primenet.com> Message-ID: <20020106175132.96062.qmail@web13104.mail.yahoo.com> This would eliminate several people from hunting a particular cache so I would hope they would all be accessable regardless of vehicle driven. Good question. --- Stephen Drake wrote: (1) Should all caches be accessible for low clearance vehicles? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 17:54:24 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 10:54:24 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Buster or Bust Message-ID: <200201061754.g06HsFg136206@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> After trying no less than 8 approaches to the Buster Cache site, I've found one way that is considerably easier than the others. After your Bronco Butte conquest, I can't say that this cache will be very challenging. It is only a little over 2 miles long, with a climb of less than 1500 feet. However, bushwhacking will increase the effort. Bushwhacking is essential too, because there are no trails to this site. I asked the rangers at Catalina State Park about the best approach, and they told me that there was none. "Buster is where the old rancher had a still, and he used horses or mules to get there, trying not to leave any trails." However, there are some remnants of a trail, plus some game trails that make my "best passage" considerably better than the others. The catch is that you won't know this "best passage" until you reach the cache. I will include in the cache, some maps of my chosen route. If you reach the cache after a lot of cussing, and getting all cut up from cactus, rocks, and mountain lion attacks, at least you will know that there is a better way back down. If it turns out that you took the best way up to begin with, you may congratulate yourselves at the cache. Now to get a stash ready, and get back up there to cache it.... -Nemo's Stashers JimStamm@Mac.com -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 19:09:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (David Hansen) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 11:09:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thanks and congratulations Message-ID: <20020106190929.75230.qmail@web14708.mail.yahoo.com> I just got back from a much needed vacation and finished reading all my email and would first like to say thanks for all the hard work that goes into snaptek page. Congratulations Wyle on your 200 find and to all those who hit 100 recently. Its going to be a while before I get there :) Last but not least congratulations to the Bronco Butte assault team I was bummed to miss that one but was out of state at the time, guess I'll be hitting it later on only now better informed :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 19:53:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:53:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] ratings question Message-ID: <20020106.125351.-951523.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Would you all please clarify this for me definitively. The two categories of ratings for a cache are "overall difficulty" and "terrain difficulty". Terrain difficulty is obvious but it's been explained to me that overall difficulty means how hard it is to find the cache once you are within the 12-20 feet range the GPS allows. So a cache buried 4 feet under heavy rocks would be rated 5 for overall difficulty, or simply "difficulty" as it shows on a cache page, even if it was 30 feet from a paved road. And a cache sitting right in plain sight with a flag sticking out would be rated as 1, even if it was on top Mt. Everest. Right or not? If so, it's too bad the main Web site doesn't use another more descriptive term, such as "search difficulty" or "find difficulty". Jerry-Offtrail From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 20:17:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:17:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] ratings question In-Reply-To: <20020106.125351.-951523.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <20020106201718.32144.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> You've got it. The generally accepted definition on the geocaching message boards is that Terrain deals with how difficult the cache is to physically reach, once you know where it is. Specialized equipment (4x4, scuba, rapelling, boat, etc.) is supposed to be a 5. Difficulty deals with how hard it is to figure out where to hunt (eg Shadow of the Pyramid, Picnic Leftovers, Water Ranch, etc.) or difficulty finding it once you are in the immediate area. Of course, burying is frowned on because of the number of holes that could be dug looking for the cache. Your first example would be a 5 / 1 while your second would be a 1 / 5, IMO. Eric Team Dragon --- Jerry B Nelson wrote: So a cache buried 4 feet under heavy rocks would be rated 5 for overall difficulty, or simply "difficulty" as it shows on a cache page, even if it was 30 feet from a paved road. And a cache sitting right in plain sight with a flag sticking out would be rated as 1, even if it was on top Mt. Everest. Right or not? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 11:14:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 04:14:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] ratings question References: <20020106.125351.-951523.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <003301c196a3$5b1c46e0$6501a8c0@Home> Jerry If you haven't seen the Geocache Rating System, check out http://www.clayjar.com/gcrs/ I think it is useful for getting an initial rating on terrain and difficulty. I usually answer the questions and see how it rates a new cache, then I adjust it if I think it was too high or low on one of the rating. Jerry - Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry B Nelson" To: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] ratings question > > Would you all please clarify this for me definitively. The two > categories of ratings for a cache are "overall difficulty" and "terrain > difficulty". Terrain difficulty is obvious but it's been explained to me > that overall difficulty means how hard it is to find the cache once you > are within the 12-20 feet range the GPS allows. So a cache buried 4 feet > under heavy rocks would be rated 5 for overall difficulty, or simply > "difficulty" as it shows on a cache page, even if it was 30 feet from a > paved road. And a cache sitting right in plain sight with a flag > sticking out would be rated as 1, even if it was on top Mt. Everest. > Right or not? > > If so, it's too bad the main Web site doesn't use another more > descriptive term, such as "search difficulty" or "find difficulty". > > Jerry-Offtrail > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 23:41:38 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 16:41:38 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Message-ID: <3C38E0B2.80237C0B@primenet.com> Congratulations to n4/c for reaching #100. With your #101 you're only 1 cache away from tying Team TJ and 2 caches away from passing Team TJ. (Isn't that right Baja Fleg????) When I get off the disabled list, I'll soon join you at the 100 plateau. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 12:04:44 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 05:04:44 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested References: <3C3880F3.1A99BA6B@primenet.com> Message-ID: <005d01c196aa$545a5f20$6501a8c0@Home> Here are my opinions on some of the questions and comments raised in various postings. I've been thinking that if there is not enough interest from our southern (Tucson?) or northern (Prescott or Flagstaff?) geocachers, perhaps I should do a smaller version focused on central Arizona. Any more comments? Thanks, Jerry - Cache-Quest (1) Should all caches be accessible for low clearance vehicles? (my comment) I would say not necessarily. I'd like the caches to cover a wide range of 'styles'. Some might be urban, some might have multiple steps, some might have riddles. I would say that they won't be of the Bronco Butte variety and I don't want to favor those darn yellow Jeeps out there. I would also like to make the rules so that missing one particular cache didn't necessarily eliminate a team, but it would certainly not be beneficial. (2) After the north and south tribes merge, would it then be the last person to the cache is eliminated or would there be voting? (my comment) I don't like the voting idea at all. I don't want this to get personal. I'd like a simple set of rules that don't favor anyone. Points would simply be assigned based on the order that teams arrive at a cache. When teams are eliminated, it would be based only on the points. However, I would like to include the concept of 'immunity'. I've been thinking that the team who arrives first at a cache could not be eliminated in that round. (3) Before the merge, would every member of the tribe be required to visit the cache or just one team member? Would the team have to get together and visit the cache together? (my comment) Good question. I would compare our geocaching teams to the individuals in the real Survivor game. I think most of our geocaching teams are couples, families, or maybe close friends. I would suggest that for a team to log a cache, at least one member of the team must be present to sign in. (a comment from Brian C.)... I would probably not list the cache on geocaching.com unless it was a cache that everyone could participate in. I would either just announce the coordinates on the list and let it do from there, or I might be able to throw together some code on the snaptek site for tracking events such as those. (my response) This is a good point. I sent a note to the good folks at geocaching.com and asked for their opinion on the whole idea. I'd like each cache in the game to be a cache in geocaching.com so people can get credit for the find via all the 'normal' counting sites. That seems to be important to many people. However, for the game to work only the remaining teams should be able to log the cache. I'd really like the caches to be short-lived, but that's a personal thing. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 00:39:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 17:39:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] n4/c 100th find Message-ID: Congratulations on your 100th find, glad to see other addictive people. Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 01:19:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:19:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested In-Reply-To: <005d01c196aa$545a5f20$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: > (my response) This is a good point. I sent a note to the good folks at > geocaching.com and asked for their opinion on the whole idea. I'd like each > cache in the game to be a cache in geocaching.com so people can get credit > for the find via all the 'normal' counting sites. That seems to be > important to many people. However, for the game to work only the remaining > teams should be able to log the cache. I'd really like the caches to be > short-lived, but that's a personal thing. If you would like, it is farily trivial to single out a few participating teams and make a link that would track everyones progress on just certain caches. That way they can be live caches. Just lemme know ahead of time so that I have time to put it together is that sound good to you. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 01:13:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry B Nelson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:13:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] n4/c big 100 Message-ID: <20020106.181335.-680659.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> My congratulations also n4/c. Another 100 in the bag. You're next in line Stephen. Put some cortisone cream on that poison ivy and get out there. I've got 78 to go before my 100, and school starts again next week. Why, oh why, have I been wasting too much vacation time? I'll get there yet! Jerry-Offtrail From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 01:28:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 20:28:23 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] n4/c 100th find Message-ID: <136.6e99da7.296a53b8@aol.com> Thanks, Ed! By the way, I'll be starting my therapy next week. I'm chaining myself to the steering wheel of a misfiring, out-of-tune, lowered Yugo with only one good gear left - reverse. Wherever I go, it has to go. Not only will this cut down on my ability to drive out to caches in a timely manner, but dragging the thing up a trail is going to make further progress rather difficult. I'm looking forward to better fitness though, from hauling all that weight around... -n4/c- (Mike) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 01:39:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:39:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Doing a cache before it's a cache Message-ID: <3C38FC35.D01B260C@primenet.com> On December 19th I entered a virtual cache for Humprhey's Peak, the highest point in Arizona. Someone today entered a log on it for doing it last summer. Question: Is it right to enter a log on a virtual cache for doing it before it was a cache? I'm at about 99% sure I should delete the log and email the person and explain the cache needs to be done after it's a cache. To do virtual caches before they're caches is a bit ridiculous. There are at least 3 virtual caches I've located around the country that I've done but before they were caches (before there was geocaching). Your viewpoint is welcome, although I may delete the log regardless of your viewpoints. Try to change my opinion if I'm wrong. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 01:49:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 18:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... References: Message-ID: <012901c1971d$83d4ed60$27207418@Pradley> Wow, I have GOOD Karma, then! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Cluff" To: "AZ-Geocaching" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations... > > But, I feel kinda bad that I'll get to the '100' mark before placing > > my own cache... This is very bad for my Cache-Karma. I'll probably be > > opening my 100th, and the top of the ammo container will slam shut on > > my finger, severing it, forcing me to rename myself, 'n4/c-1'... > > > > Hmm. I'd better place one soon.. (said while noticing dark clouds > > swirling above).. :) > > Just in case you haven't figured it out (it's fairly obvious), the cache > karma is just a 1:20 ratio, so you would have to hide 4 to break even. > The first 20 are a given, since you can't really expect someone to hide a > cache right away just to get a positive karma. > > Ive been thinking about have a user setable karma so that you can quickly > see if you are living up to your own standards, and not just ours , but I > have no way of telling if a team is really who they say they are, so there > probably won't be anything like that anytime soon, since I would have to > do something like ask for your geocaching.com password then then check to > see if it successfully logs you in, but then I would end up with everyones > password that chooses to participate and thats information I don't want. > I really wouldn't want the possibility of any fingers pointed at Team > Snaptek if anything ever get screwed up on the official site. I suppose > that I could make a cache on the official site and have some sort of > unique code key that you could put into a found entry, and so all teams > that get an account on the snaptek site and have the correct code key put > in will be properly authenticated.... that might be cool! > > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:10:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:10:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c In-Reply-To: <3C38E0B2.80237C0B@primenet.com> Message-ID: Congratulations n4/c!! We were somewhere behind you today at the Massacre Grounds cache. We saw your 100th log entry there! You sure move fast to get 100 cache finds in less than 3 months! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Drake Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:42 PM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Congratulations to n4/c for reaching #100. With your #101 you're only 1 cache away from tying Team TJ and 2 caches away from passing Team TJ. (Isn't that right Baja Fleg????) When I get off the disabled list, I'll soon join you at the 100 plateau. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:11:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:11:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c In-Reply-To: <3C38E0B2.80237C0B@primenet.com> Message-ID: Srdrake; Perhaps we shouldn't be dragging Team TJ into this or any other statistical or competitive topics. They appear to have gracefully remained quite lately regarding stats. Perhaps we all should also. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Drake Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:42 PM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Congratulations to n4/c for reaching #100. With your #101 you're only 1 cache away from tying Team TJ and 2 caches away from passing Team TJ. (Isn't that right Baja Fleg????) When I get off the disabled list, I'll soon join you at the 100 plateau. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:17:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:17:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested References: <005f01c195de$a7b7bf40$6501a8c0@Home> <003b01c195e7$444d86c0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <024001c19721$75366aa0$27207418@Pradley> Great Idea! Sign me up for the Northern Team! ~~trisha "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 5:48 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2002 Arizona Geocaching Survivor Game - Comments Requested > My son and I came up with this idea for a geocaching contest. Before I > start it, I'd to see if the Arizona Geocaching Community would be interested > or have comments about the rules. > > Basically the game is a series of caches where teams are scored and slowly > eliminated from the game. We (Team Cache-Quest) would hide the caches and > organize the game, but not play. > > We thought we'd start with two 'tribes', one for southern Arizona and one > for northern Arizona. That would give cachers outside the Phoenix area a > fair chance to compete. Around mid-year the top contenders from the > northern and southern tribe would be merged into a single tribe for the > remainder of the year. > > For each cache, points would be assigned based on the order the teams found > the cache. The lower the score the better. There would also be a time limit > on each cache. If a team did not find the cache within the time limit, they > would either be eliminated or receive penalty points (depending on the > criteria for the individual cache). I'm thinking there would be about one > cache every four to six weeks and contestants would have about three weeks > to find the cache. That would allow people to plan around other activities. > Of course, the quicker a team finds the caches the better score they > receive. Caches would vary in type and difficulty over the course of the > year. Since the caches are short lived, there would be no exchanging > trinkets. > > To make sure the caches associated with the game were not 'raided' they > would all have false coordinates except the first one. I would list the > cache on geocaching.com and email the correct coordinates only to those > teams still in the game. For the first cache I would hide one a northern > one and a southern one and teams could find those caches to sign up for the > tribes. Depending on the number of teams interested in playing, we would > adjust the number of caches and how many and how fast teams get eliminated. > > I'd appreciate any constructive comments on this idea and if you would be > interested in participating. > > Thanks, > Jerry Neild > Team Cache-Quest > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:28:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:28:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c References: Message-ID: <02d601c19722$feeb4bc0$27207418@Pradley> I agree....let's leave Team TJ alone and let them leave us alone, as is their stated preference. ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c > Srdrake; > > Perhaps we shouldn't be dragging Team TJ into this or any other statistical > or competitive topics. They appear to have gracefully remained quite lately > regarding stats. Perhaps we all should also. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen > Drake > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:42 PM > To: Geocaching Listserv > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c > > > Congratulations to n4/c for reaching #100. With your #101 you're only 1 > cache away from tying Team TJ and 2 caches away from passing Team TJ. > (Isn't that right Baja Fleg????) > > When I get off the disabled list, I'll soon join you at the 100 plateau. > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:37:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 19:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: n4/c big 100 Message-ID: <3C390A05.F17A7717@primenet.com> It's going to take some time go get the last 10 to reach 100. I had to spend yesterday afternoon in the emergency room at the hospital. My knee had swollen to twice its size (infection) and I couldn't bend it. I'm now on antibiotics and 2 types of steroids. The swelling has gone down a lot and my knee movement is at about 80% now. The doctor said it'll take at least a week to get my knee back to normal. Maybe next weekend I'll be able to take it slow with a couple of easy ones. I'm targeting making it to 100 around January 19-20th. By that time, n4/c will probably be to 150 with no hope ever to pass him... -srdrake >My congratulations also n4/c. Another 100 in the bag. You're next in >line Stephen. Put some cortisone cream on that poison ivy and get out >there. > >I've got 78 to go before my 100, and school starts again next week. Why, >oh why, have I been wasting too much vacation time? I'll get there yet! > >Jerry-Offtrail From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 14:39:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 07:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] n4/c 100th find References: Message-ID: <002301c196bf$f50749a0$6501a8c0@Home> Another 100! Congratulations! Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 02:29:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:29:10 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ditto to that, by the way Larry that was our beer can life jacket or should I say keg life jacket. Ed Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Larry Farquhar Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:11 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Srdrake; Perhaps we shouldn't be dragging Team TJ into this or any other statistical or competitive topics. They appear to have gracefully remained quite lately regarding stats. Perhaps we all should also. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Drake Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:42 PM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Congratulations to n4/c for reaching #100. With your #101 you're only 1 cache away from tying Team TJ and 2 caches away from passing Team TJ. (Isn't that right Baja Fleg????) When I get off the disabled list, I'll soon join you at the 100 plateau. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 03:03:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 20:03:57 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c In-Reply-To: <02d601c19722$feeb4bc0$27207418@Pradley> Message-ID: > I agree....let's leave Team TJ alone and let them leave us alone, as is > their stated preference. I agree as well, I can't remove their data without affecting lots of other peoples data as well, so it's probable best if we just leave it alone. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 03:22:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 22:22:30 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Message-ID: Hey, Larry... When I was standing atop the hill after logging in at the 'White Elephant' cache, I did see a yellow jeep, black top up, go by in the distance on the dirt road in... honestly. I remember wondering if that could have been you... perhaps it was! -M- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 6 16:04:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:04:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache References: <3C38FC35.D01B260C@primenet.com> Message-ID: <002b01c196cb$e39058e0$6501a8c0@Home> Congratulations to Larry for another first find and to Ropingthewind for their first cache. There is no shame to coming in second to the mighty "Wyle E", I've gotten used to it. Now that Team "Wyle E" has found our new Junk Drawer Junkie cache, I can tell you all what happened while we were hiding it. I was with my son and we were looking for just the right spot. After we hid the cache, I was getting readings on the gps and I noticed my son was very busy moving rocks around. When I asked him what he was doing, he said he was making false hiding places to fool Team "Wyle E". I can't imagine where he gets his competitive nature! When I told him that "Wyle E" found the cache first, he said "Doh!" I told him he had watched too much Simpsons. Have Fun All, Jerry - Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 04:26:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 04:26:31 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats Message-ID: Congradulations to NC/4 on their 100th, we had better be watching our backs as we have a feeling that you will be passing us soon. Team CBx2. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 05:13:38 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:13:38 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats References: Message-ID: <008f01c1973a$12852ea0$b1520d82@qwest.net> were look at the stat page and it showing that i have hidden onl;y 6 caches think there is a problem with that number libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Brown" To: Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats > > Congradulations to NC/4 on their 100th, we had better be watching our backs > as we have a feeling that you will be passing us soon. > > Team CBx2. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 06:01:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:01:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Doing a cache before it's a cache In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010106221419.027f9d00@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: > I tend to agree with you. The two virtual caches that I have logged out of I would have to agree too... what if everyone that had given blood before decided to just log the sep 11 trade center cache instead of actually given blood. They would have totally missed the point and we wouldn't have had so much blood to throw away 45 or so days later when it went bad :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 06:06:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:06:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats In-Reply-To: <008f01c1973a$12852ea0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: > were look at the stat page and it showing that i have hidden onl;y 6 > caches think there is a problem with that number Yeah, it says that you have only found 28 too. Looks to me like it only had a partial crawl last update and only got some of the sites into the system.... need to do something about that... I told the system to crawl the system again... it should be back to normal in just a little bit. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 13:44:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 06:44:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: n4/c big 100 References: <3C390A05.F17A7717@primenet.com> Message-ID: <000c01c19781$7feb7fc0$12207418@Pradley> Stephen, Sorry to hear about your knee,,,,,I sure hope it gets better and heals soon. I had to stop caching for awhile when I had carpal tunnel surgery, I have done only a few since my hands have "healed"....they still have a ways to go to be fully healed. (I also bought a house, so things have been busy.) I know that many cachers like the competitive edge of this hobby (I do too) but please remember that your health (and maybe a couple other things) are more important than any hobby. I'm only saying this as a way to say "take care of yourself".....the caches will be there :-) ~~trisha "Lightning" ((at least my "karma" is good! :-) )) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: n4/c big 100 > It's going to take some time go get the last 10 to reach 100. I had to > spend yesterday afternoon in the emergency room at the hospital. My > knee had swollen to twice its size (infection) and I couldn't bend it. > I'm now on antibiotics and 2 types of steroids. The swelling has gone > down a lot and my knee movement is at about 80% now. The doctor said > it'll take at least a week to get my knee back to normal. Maybe next > weekend I'll be able to take it slow with a couple of easy ones. I'm > targeting making it to 100 around January 19-20th. By that time, n4/c > will probably be to 150 with no hope ever to pass him... > > -srdrake > > >My congratulations also n4/c. Another 100 in the bag. You're next in > >line Stephen. Put some cortisone cream on that poison ivy and get out > >there. > > > >I've got 78 to go before my 100, and school starts again next week. > Why, > >oh why, have I been wasting too much vacation time? I'll get there > yet! > > > >Jerry-Offtrail > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 15:12:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:12:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We saw someone on top of the 'White Elephant' hill when we drove in. It was around 1:00pm. Maybe it was you. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Noesis4@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 8:23 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Congratulations to n4/c Hey, Larry... When I was standing atop the hill after logging in at the 'White Elephant' cache, I did see a yellow jeep, black top up, go by in the distance on the dirt road in... honestly. I remember wondering if that could have been you... perhaps it was! -M- _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 15:14:43 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:14:43 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache In-Reply-To: <002b01c196cb$e39058e0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Aha! So he's the culprit! Did he make that large pile of rocks with all of the branches sticking out? It looked a little too fake - but we checked anyway. :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team Cache-Quest Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:05 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache Congratulations to Larry for another first find and to Ropingthewind for their first cache. There is no shame to coming in second to the mighty "Wyle E", I've gotten used to it. Now that Team "Wyle E" has found our new Junk Drawer Junkie cache, I can tell you all what happened while we were hiding it. I was with my son and we were looking for just the right spot. After we hid the cache, I was getting readings on the gps and I noticed my son was very busy moving rocks around. When I asked him what he was doing, he said he was making false hiding places to fool Team "Wyle E". I can't imagine where he gets his competitive nature! When I told him that "Wyle E" found the cache first, he said "Doh!" I told him he had watched too much Simpsons. Have Fun All, Jerry - Team Cache-Quest _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 15:16:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:16:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010106222308.027fd3b0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: Bring 'em along. Maybe they'll catch the bug also! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:26 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats To be honest I don't remember which teams we have congratulated and which we haven't. Seems like it has been a good few weeks for teams to break 100. Congrats to all that have reached the century point! Team My Blue Heaven has a long ways to go, but we are making a slow and steady shot at it. :-) We do plan in hitting a dozen or so caches in Southern California in 2 weeks when we go out and visit family. Just trying to figure out how we tell the family that instead of visiting with them we are going to be running around the woods with our GPS. :-) In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 16:17:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:17:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Congrats In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010106222308.027fd3b0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107091650.00a284e0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 08:16 AM 1/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Bring 'em along. Maybe they'll catch the bug also! I have actually been thinking about that. The teen age kids would probably love it. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 04:21:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:21:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache References: Message-ID: <001901c19732$d84a6e00$6501a8c0@Home> Yes, that was his rock pile. It was more like work of modern art than a hiding place, but he had a lot of fun making it. I'll tell him that it "fooled" you, if only for a moment. It will make his day. Cache-on! Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache > Aha! So he's the culprit! Did he make that large pile of rocks with all of > the branches sticking out? It looked a little too fake - but we checked > anyway. :-) > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team > Cache-Quest > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:05 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A story about the Junk Drawer Junkie Cache > > > Congratulations to Larry for another first find and to Ropingthewind for > their first cache. There is no shame to coming in second to the mighty > "Wyle E", I've gotten used to it. > > Now that Team "Wyle E" has found our new Junk Drawer Junkie cache, I can > tell you all what happened while we were hiding it. I was with my son and > we were looking for just the right spot. After we hid the cache, I was > getting readings on the gps and I noticed my son was very busy moving rocks > around. When I asked him what he was doing, he said he was making false > hiding places to fool Team "Wyle E". I can't imagine where he gets his > competitive nature! > > When I told him that "Wyle E" found the cache first, he said "Doh!" I told > him he had watched too much Simpsons. > > Have Fun All, > Jerry - Team Cache-Quest > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 17:57:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 10:57:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when are you going to remove our information from your page? Michael ----Original Message Follows---- http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm jason _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 18:04:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 11:04:20 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Wow you spent a lot of time with that post Jason, maybe a little to much?? Anyway show me a stats page that has something other then just the total found. So far I've seen nothing but total number found. If you can do that how easy was it to get? Anyone can see the total number found and I think the total number hidden. Basicly I want you to show me a stats site that goes to far indepth like yours. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 19:17:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:17:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <001f01c197af$f54cb300$7c207418@Pradley> Geez, Michael, just delete ALL your info from the geocaching website, and none of it will show up on ANY stats page. Give it a rest!! We're all tired of hearing you complain. If you don't like something, fix it yourself. Hello....maturity??? "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baja Fleg" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was > getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when are > you going to remove our information from your page? > > Michael > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 > > http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm > > > jason > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 19:21:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:21:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <002801c197b0$806f4a60$7c207418@Pradley> WHY? Why bother asking that if you don't like what Snaptek is doing? YOU don't like the stats and just about EVERYBODY else does. Hmmm...does that say anything to anybody? Delete your OWN log entries that you voluntarily put there in the first place and GROW UP!!!!! And I mean ALL of you... I, and I am sure just about everybody else, is tired of this petty bickering. "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baja Fleg" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > Wow you spent a lot of time with that post Jason, maybe a little to much?? > Anyway show me a stats page that has something other then just the total > found. So far I've seen nothing but total number found. If you can do that > how easy was it to get? Anyone can see the total number found and I think > the total number hidden. Basicly I want you to show me a stats site that > goes to far indepth like yours. > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 19:52:08 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:52:08 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question In-Reply-To: <002801c197b0$806f4a60$7c207418@Pradley> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020107124118.00a472c0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 12:21 PM 1/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: >WHY? Why bother asking that if you don't like what Snaptek is doing? YOU >don't like the stats and just about EVERYBODY else does. Hmmm...does that >say anything to anybody? Delete your OWN log entries that you voluntarily >put there in the first place and GROW UP!!!!! And I mean ALL of you... I, >and I am sure just about everybody else, is tired of this petty bickering. I agree. I have just about had it with this whole thread. It has been said over and over and over again that if you don't want your stats to show up just remove your log entries. I don't know how many other ways that this could be said. I enjoy geocaching a lot. I am glad that I have met people from this list, even if only via e-mail. I hope to meet many of you at events when they come up. This thread aside I really enjoy this list, but come on people, haven't we all had enough of this? Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 23:09:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:09:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Monthly Arizona Geocache Champions Message-ID: (These stats were compiled by the December 2001 geocache champion, srdrake, using some url code supplied to me by one of the Snaptek Brothers.) Here are the Arizona Geocache Champions for 2001. The numbers are based upon the number of caches done in AZ for each month. The totals do not include caches done in other states. (Note: In addition to the 51 I did in December in AZ, I did 23 in California for a total of 74 in the month of December.) Record for Most AZ Caches Done in a Month: 51 - srdrake (December 2001) 48 - n4/c (December 2001) 47 - Wyle E (September 2001) 41 - Wyle E (August 2001) 39 - Wyle E (December 2001) Note how the activity has increased each month. More caches. More people becoming obsessed with the hobby. I predict that by the end of 2002, we'll have a month when someone does 100 caches! Imagine being the monthly geocache champion with finding 4 caches. What growth in this hobby. December 2001 srdrake - 51 n4/c - 48 Wyle E - 39 November 2001 n4/c - 37 Trail Gypsy - 31 Wyle E - 27 October 2001 Wyle E - 35 blong77435 - 28 Trail Gypsy - 27 September 2001 Wyle E - 47 Team TJ - 38 cache-quest - 37 August 2001 Wyle E - 41 Team TJ - 16 Bob Renner - 13 springman - 13 July 2001 Team TJ - 16 Wyle E - 10 cbx2 - 9 Bob Renner - 9 June 2001 cbx2 - 12 Wyle E - 8 Green Rover - 8 lost yankee - 8 May 2001 o-sew - 10 Gumby&Pokey - 10 Team ETCH - 9 April 2001 Monte Cristo - 8 Ranger51 - 6 Mojo - 5 March 2001 Howard184 - 7 Bob Renner - 7 sallybus - 7 February 2001 Bob Renner - 9 Team Snaptek - 8 sallybus - 7 January 2001 Bob Renner - 4 azmark - 3 Team Tandem - 3 Squiddle - 3 From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 23:11:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:11:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg Message-ID: Please note that you're the July 2001 AZ Geocache Champion. Congratulations!!! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 23:14:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:14:20 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Taliban, al-Qaeda cache has been archived Message-ID: I see that the headlines on Yahoo News includes this story: "U.S. bombers hit Taliban, al-Qaeda weapons cache" Can we assume that this cache has been archived? -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 7 23:22:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:22:06 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Fellow Cache teams. To put this to bed already can you please help Jason out and go into your cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. That will clear the stats and all will be said and done. I have started the ball rolling There stats are down by 4. Team CBx2 >From: "Trisha Radley" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:17:30 -0700 > >Geez, Michael, just delete ALL your info from the geocaching website, and >none of it will show up on ANY stats page. Give it a rest!! We're all tired >of hearing you complain. If you don't like something, fix it yourself. >Hello....maturity??? >"Lightning" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Baja Fleg" >To: >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 AM >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > > > Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was > > getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when >are > > you going to remove our information from your page? > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 > > > > http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm > > > > > > jason > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:01:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Taliban, al-Qaeda cache has been archived References: Message-ID: <002501c197df$f4b52d20$9a207418@Pradley> yuck yuck ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Taliban, al-Qaeda cache has been archived > I see that the headlines on Yahoo News includes this story: "U.S. bombers > hit Taliban, al-Qaeda weapons cache" > > Can we assume that this cache has been archived? > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:01:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:01:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <003101c197e0$08f00260$9a207418@Pradley> good idea! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Brown" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > Fellow Cache teams. > To put this to bed already can you please help Jason out and go into your > cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. That will clear the > stats and all will be said and done. I have started the ball rolling There > stats are down by 4. > > Team CBx2 > > > >From: "Trisha Radley" > >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:17:30 -0700 > > > >Geez, Michael, just delete ALL your info from the geocaching website, and > >none of it will show up on ANY stats page. Give it a rest!! We're all tired > >of hearing you complain. If you don't like something, fix it yourself. > >Hello....maturity??? > >"Lightning" > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Baja Fleg" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 AM > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > > > > > > Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was > > > getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when > >are > > > you going to remove our information from your page? > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 > > > > > > http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm > > > > > > > > > jason > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Az-Geocaching mailing list > >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 00:59:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:59:26 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Message-ID: O.K. ladies, I finally got with it! I have placed an "Event Cache" that you will see on the website as soon as it gets approved. I chose a date a couple of weeks away in hopes that more of you will be able to come. Don't worry about the time, that's the time I am going to show up to get a table. Come by and at least say hi, even if you can't stay. Hope to see you soon! Mimi Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:15:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:15:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <000c01c197e1$f7bed8c0$9a207418@Pradley> Should be down 2 more, off the 2 caches of mine they had found. ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl Brown" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > Fellow Cache teams. > To put this to bed already can you please help Jason out and go into your > cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. That will clear the > stats and all will be said and done. I have started the ball rolling There > stats are down by 4. > > Team CBx2 > > > >From: "Trisha Radley" > >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:17:30 -0700 > > > >Geez, Michael, just delete ALL your info from the geocaching website, and > >none of it will show up on ANY stats page. Give it a rest!! We're all tired > >of hearing you complain. If you don't like something, fix it yourself. > >Hello....maturity??? > >"Lightning" > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Baja Fleg" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 AM > >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > > > > > > Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was > > > getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when > >are > > > you going to remove our information from your page? > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ > > > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 > > > > > > http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm > > > > > > > > > jason > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Az-Geocaching mailing list > >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:24:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Deleting Team TJ's cache finds... Message-ID: <3C3A4A5A.5C10B2C@primenet.com> cbx2, if you and others do that, then Team TJ will lose their distinction as being the AZ Geocaching Champion for July 2001. -srdrake, daring others to break my monthly record of 51 AZ caches found in December 2001 From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:45:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020108014501.2972.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> There is a problem with this. If you found any of their caches, they may delete your logs and your numbers will go down. It's probably best to just TOTALLY ignore them and all messages. If they don't get any response AT ALL, they will probably stop sending messages. Bob --- Cheryl Brown wrote: > Fellow Cache teams. > To put this to bed already can you please help Jason > out and go into your > cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. > That will clear the > stats and all will be said and done. I have started > the ball rolling There > stats are down by 4. > > Team CBx2 ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 01:46:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:46:45 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Noticed some things about the AZ stats Message-ID: <3C3A4F85.D30CE265@primenet.com> (1) For all people who have found caches in AZ, Wyle E hasn't found the most caches. Pokey&Gumby, who has found 10 caches in AZ, is ahead of Wyle E in total caches 232-231. (2) Trail Gypsy is the person/team who has found the most AZ caches without logging a "can't find." From now on, all caches hidden must be hid well enough that Trail Gypsy can't find them. (3) N4/c has found the most AZ caches for all people/teams who have not hidden a cache. Hey, you can buy most tupperware at any Bashas and ammo boxes at Popular!!!! (He's joked about this in an earlier listserv message.) Perhaps Wolfb8 needs to share some of her extremely positive Cache Karma with n4/c. (4) Mike the Mutant has found the most AZ caches for all people/teams who haven't found a cache outside AZ. Ridiculous given that Mike has been known to have left Southwest Airlines stuff in various caches (according to his logs). Perhaps we should start a Flight Fund Account in Mike's name to get him out of AZ for a weekend to hunt a few caches. (5) Team Snaptek and Bob Renner are the only two people/teams in the Top 25 of caches found in AZ to have found their first cache in 2000. It's great to have teams who started in the infancy of this hobby and have remained committed to making it fun for the rest of us. It wouldn't be as fun of a hobby had you teams laid the groundwork in AZ. (6) I'm openly challenging someone to beat my record of 51 AZ caches found in a month. Like I said earlier, I predict that before 2002 is up, someone will find 100 in a month. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 02:28:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:28:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: <200201080215.TAA11491@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <3C3A5934.9A3D008D@primenet.com> Well, I see that Team TJ has archived both the caches they hid in AZ. I guess they didn't just leave AZ, but they took all their toys with them and decided not to play with us any more. > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Bob Renner > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > There is a problem with this. If you found any of > their caches, they may delete your logs and your > numbers will go down. > > It's probably best to just TOTALLY ignore them and > all messages. If they don't get any response AT ALL, > they will probably stop sending messages. > > Bob From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:20:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:20:14 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Monthly Arizona Geocache Champions Message-ID: <197.bc2666.296bcd7e@aol.com> He he.. can you tell that Stephen's trapped in bed with a bum knee? All that geo-seeking energy has to go somewhere! -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:41:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:41:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Monthly Arizona Geocache Champions In-Reply-To: <197.bc2666.296bcd7e@aol.com> Message-ID: > He he.. can you tell that Stephen's trapped in bed with a bum knee? > All that geo-seeking energy has to go somewhere! Yeah, thats what I figured, so I tipped him off to some of the soon to be revealed secret features of the snaptek site, making possible, lots of those "moments in geocaching" :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:29:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:29:51 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Noticed something else... Message-ID: With all of these stats flying fast and furious, I'd like to share with all Today's 'Weird but True' stat... Team Wyle E ranks #8 in... Hawaii! Now, THAT'S showing some influence! -M- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:50:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:50:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Monthly Arizona Geocache Champions Message-ID: <3C3A7A88.F876C2F6@primenet.com> And antibiotics and two flavors of steroids messing with my head besides... Who knows, in another week, perhaps I can do Bronco Butte round-trip in an hour! n4/c said... >He he.. can you tell that Stephen's trapped in bed with a bum knee? All that >geo-seeking energy has to go somewhere! > >-Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:54:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:54:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: I will garante that if that starts to happen then we will get even. Remember we do visit Arizona often and we do still have co-ordinates to all the caches, hint hint. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- Fellow Cache teams. To put this to bed already can you please help Jason out and go into your cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. That will clear the stats and all will be said and done. I have started the ball rolling There stats are down by 4. Team CBx2 >From: "Trisha Radley" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:17:30 -0700 > >Geez, Michael, just delete ALL your info from the geocaching website, and >none of it will show up on ANY stats page. Give it a rest!! We're all tired >of hearing you complain. If you don't like something, fix it yourself. >Hello....maturity??? >"Lightning" > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Baja Fleg" >To: >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:57 AM >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > > > Wow and I had actually stoped replying to the stupid replies that I was > > getting. Now that Jason has been nice enough to start it up again, when >are > > you going to remove our information from your page? > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?ul=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=Arizona > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/states.cgi?state=New+Mexico > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/users.cgi?username=Team+TJ > > > > http://www.insidecorner.com/geocaching/stats/leaderboard.cgi?start=75 > > > > http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/world.htm > > > > > > jason > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Michael Fleigle Http://members.xoom.com/Fleg _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:56:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:56:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg Message-ID: We are what?? What does that mean?? ----Original Message Follows---- From: srdrake@srpnet.com Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com To: Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Baja Fleg Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:11:11 -0700 Please note that you're the July 2001 AZ Geocache Champion. Congratulations!!! _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 04:59:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:59:45 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: Trisha, we will be in Prescott next month. Like I said I will get even if this childish behavior continues. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 05:24:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:24:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: <20020107.222435.-874173.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Folks, Bob's, and Larry's suggestion from an earlier post, is the only method that will work. This will go on forever unless we just ignore. Don't delete logs, do nothing. Don't post anything about this subject. Don't reply to this message. It's the only way it will stop. Please. Offtrail On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) Bob Renner writes: > There is a problem with this. If you found any of > their caches, they may delete your logs and your > numbers will go down. > > It's probably best to just TOTALLY ignore them and > all messages. If they don't get any response AT ALL, > they will probably stop sending messages. > > Bob > > --- Cheryl Brown wrote: > > Fellow Cache teams. > > To put this to bed already can you please help Jason > > out and go into your > > cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. > > That will clear the > > stats and all will be said and done. I have started > > the ball rolling There > > stats are down by 4. > > > > Team CBx2 > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 12:51:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 05:51:32 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question Message-ID: <3C3AEB54.2909D84B@primenet.com> Baja Fleg/Michael/Team TJ, Please keep in mind that with several people deleting your logs, your Cache Karma has improved. Try to look on the positive side of things, ok? -srdrake >I will garante that if that starts to happen then we will get even. >Remember we do visit Arizona often and we do still have co-ordinates to all >the caches, hint hint. > >Michael From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 13:44:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 06:44:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion Message-ID: <3C3AF7AF.1D8F8328@primenet.com> Here are the current standings for January 2002 after one week for geocaches found in AZ. It's still anybody's ballgame! Wyle E - 9 amx401 - 9 agrcamp - 8 Team Marlinspike - 7 joenveng - 7 Airport Bums - 7 Team C.H.U.M.P. - 6 djhillhumpers - 6 Tres Hombres - 6 n4/c - 6 cbx2 - 6 Team Dragon - 5 Howard184 - 5 ibby - 5 Team KERF - 5 offtrail - 5 dkoch - 5 From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 14:02:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:02:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: Message-ID: <003501c1984d$2b3ff4c0$a5207418@Pradley> Childish? Look in the mirror! A mature person, first of all, would not have let this go on and on, forever whining. I was simply complying with YOUR desire to not have any stats posted. You are the one who kept complaining, and the apparently the only way to get off the stats is to delete the entries. Vindictiveness is so childish and immature. I don't know what happened to you, but it is sad. You seemed so nice when I met you at the campout. What a shame. ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baja Fleg" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > Trisha, we will be in Prescott next month. Like I said I will get even if > this childish behavior continues. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 14:04:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:04:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion References: <3C3AF7AF.1D8F8328@primenet.com> Message-ID: <004601c1984d$64818c80$a5207418@Pradley> Hey, nice to see Marlinspike up there! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion > Here are the current standings for January 2002 after one week for > geocaches found in AZ. It's still anybody's ballgame! > > Wyle E - 9 > amx401 - 9 > agrcamp - 8 > Team Marlinspike - 7 > joenveng - 7 > Airport Bums - 7 > Team C.H.U.M.P. - 6 > djhillhumpers - 6 > Tres Hombres - 6 > n4/c - 6 > cbx2 - 6 > Team Dragon - 5 > Howard184 - 5 > ibby - 5 > Team KERF - 5 > offtrail - 5 > dkoch - 5 > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 13:59:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 06:59:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion References: <3C3AF7AF.1D8F8328@primenet.com> Message-ID: <001c01c1984c$b20cbc00$b1520d82@qwest.net> I am getting tried of the the daily post about who is in what place my self... I we want to know drake we can look it up ourselves... Please stop libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion > Here are the current standings for January 2002 after one week for > geocaches found in AZ. It's still anybody's ballgame! > > Wyle E - 9 > amx401 - 9 > agrcamp - 8 > Team Marlinspike - 7 > joenveng - 7 > Airport Bums - 7 > Team C.H.U.M.P. - 6 > djhillhumpers - 6 > Tres Hombres - 6 > n4/c - 6 > cbx2 - 6 > Team Dragon - 5 > Howard184 - 5 > ibby - 5 > Team KERF - 5 > offtrail - 5 > dkoch - 5 > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 14:07:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:07:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question References: <20020107.222435.-874173.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <005901c1984d$cdcaac80$a5207418@Pradley> Sorry, guys, I replied that last post before I read this. I agree....no more response no matter what seems to be the best way. It is so unfortunate and sad it has come to this. Team TJ were so nice when I met them, it is such a shame..... ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Stats Question > > Folks, Bob's, and Larry's suggestion from an earlier post, is the only > method that will work. This will go on forever unless we just ignore. > Don't delete logs, do nothing. Don't post anything about this subject. > Don't reply to this message. It's the only way it will stop. Please. > > Offtrail > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:45:01 -0800 (PST) Bob Renner > writes: > > There is a problem with this. If you found any of > > their caches, they may delete your logs and your > > numbers will go down. > > > > It's probably best to just TOTALLY ignore them and > > all messages. If they don't get any response AT ALL, > > they will probably stop sending messages. > > > > Bob > > > > --- Cheryl Brown wrote: > > > Fellow Cache teams. > > > To put this to bed already can you please help Jason > > > out and go into your > > > cache pages you have hid and delete Team TJ's logs. > > > That will clear the > > > stats and all will be said and done. I have started > > > the ball rolling There > > > stats are down by 4. > > > > > > Team CBx2 > > > > > > ===== > > . > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 14:31:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 07:31:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion Message-ID: <3C3B02DF.6781A082@primenet.com> Just ignore it then. To some people, this is a motivating factor to enjoy the hobby more. To all others, it should be a non-issue. >I am getting tried of the the daily post about who is in what place my >self... I we want to know drake we can look it up ourselves... Please stop > >libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 15:03:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:03:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion In-Reply-To: <001c01c1984c$b20cbc00$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20020108150333.79809.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Ditto. This isn't a contest or race. --- wolfb8 wrote: > I am getting tried of the the daily post about who > is in what place my > self... I we want to know drake we can look it up > ourselves... Please stop > > libby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Drake" > To: "Geocaching Listserv" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:44 AM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 > AZ Geocaching Champion > > > > Here are the current standings for January 2002 > after one week for > > geocaches found in AZ. It's still anybody's > ballgame! > > > > Wyle E - 9 > > amx401 - 9 > > agrcamp - 8 > > Team Marlinspike - 7 > > joenveng - 7 > > Airport Bums - 7 > > Team C.H.U.M.P. - 6 > > djhillhumpers - 6 > > Tres Hombres - 6 > > n4/c - 6 > > cbx2 - 6 > > Team Dragon - 5 > > Howard184 - 5 > > ibby - 5 > > Team KERF - 5 > > offtrail - 5 > > dkoch - 5 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 19:49:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:49:32 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 References: <20020108150333.79809.qmail@web13102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c1987d$97f90d60$b1520d82@qwest.net> Is any one going to be getting a permit for the bulldog canyon in the near future... If so if you would not mine including my plate # I would be in you debt... Can not make it to mesa when the ranger station is open.... Please help libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 22:49:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:49:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out References: Message-ID: <001201c19896$c6e690c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Well i will be stopping by... No commitment for that nite.... Just wounder how you all are going to get your have on the GPS so you can attend. Just woundering how many of the men are going to have withdraws not having the unit were they can get there hands on it????? :) libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Philpott" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out > O.K. ladies, I finally got with it! I have placed an "Event Cache" that you > will see on the website as soon as it gets approved. I chose a date a > couple of weeks away in hopes that more of you will be able to come. Don't > worry about the time, that's the time I am going to show up to get a table. > Come by and at least say hi, even if you can't stay. Hope to see you soon! > > Mimi > Trail Gypsy > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 00:30:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:30:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion In-Reply-To: <3C3AF7AF.1D8F8328@primenet.com> Message-ID: Just for the record, we're not participating in any "race" or "competition". We do geocaching for our own enjoyment. I like reviewing the stats to see how active the Arizona geocaching community is - not as a measure of competition. See you on the trails! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Drake Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:44 AM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The Race for the Jan 2002 AZ Geocaching Champion Here are the current standings for January 2002 after one week for geocaches found in AZ. It's still anybody's ballgame! Wyle E - 9 amx401 - 9 agrcamp - 8 Team Marlinspike - 7 joenveng - 7 Airport Bums - 7 Team C.H.U.M.P. - 6 djhillhumpers - 6 Tres Hombres - 6 n4/c - 6 cbx2 - 6 Team Dragon - 5 Howard184 - 5 ibby - 5 Team KERF - 5 offtrail - 5 dkoch - 5 _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 00:44:55 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:44:55 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition References: Message-ID: <000401c198a6$db4c7a60$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> > Just for the record, we're not participating in any "race" or "competition". > We do geocaching for our own enjoyment. I like reviewing the stats to see > how active the Arizona geocaching community is - not as a measure of > competition. On the record, I would like to say that we are providing the stats for informational uses only. They are far to inaccurate to really mean anything else. We would at some time like to provide some competion stuff, but it would be on an opt-in only basis and kept seperate from the rest of the stats. How many people would be interested in some sort of opt-in competition? Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:04:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:04:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 In-Reply-To: <001301c1987d$97f90d60$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: Libby; The problem with someone placing you on their permit is, you need to have the permit with you when you're in the area. Red ink is used for the permit number, and photocopies are not a valid permit. ($5000 fine if caught driving back there without a valid permit). I though there was a way the Mesa Ranger District office would mail the application to you, you sign and return to them, and they'll return it via mail to you. If I remember correctly, you provide all of the self-addressed stamped envelopes. If you haven't already, call the Mesa Ranger District office at: 480-610-3300 for further info. My permit expires 2/4/02 and will be getting a new one. I'll ask about mailing permits and pick-up a blank application then end of this month (if possible). Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of wolfb8 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:50 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 Is any one going to be getting a permit for the bulldog canyon in the near future... If so if you would not mine including my plate # I would be in you debt... Can not make it to mesa when the ranger station is open.... Please help libby _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:06:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:06:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out In-Reply-To: <001201c19896$c6e690c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: Simple - we own 4 GPS's! :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of wolfb8 Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:50 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Well i will be stopping by... No commitment for that nite.... Just wounder how you all are going to get your have on the GPS so you can attend. Just woundering how many of the men are going to have withdraws not having the unit were they can get there hands on it????? :) libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Philpott" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out > O.K. ladies, I finally got with it! I have placed an "Event Cache" that you > will see on the website as soon as it gets approved. I chose a date a > couple of weeks away in hopes that more of you will be able to come. Don't > worry about the time, that's the time I am going to show up to get a table. > Come by and at least say hi, even if you can't stay. Hope to see you soon! > > Mimi > Trail Gypsy > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:31:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:31:07 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition In-Reply-To: <000401c198a6$db4c7a60$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108183026.027eb4f0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 05:44 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote: >How many people would be interested in some sort of opt-in competition? If there was some way to include those of us down here in the southern part of the state, I would like to participate. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:35:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 18:35:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition In-Reply-To: <000401c198a6$db4c7a60$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> Message-ID: After Brian's reply - I should clarify my first statement. We're not in any competition or race while doing our normal cache hunts. However, we may participate in an "organized" competition, such as the one Team Cache-Quest has been talking about planning. Snaptek - we may be interested in some sort of "opt-in competition". Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Brian Cluff Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:45 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition > Just for the record, we're not participating in any "race" or "competition". > We do geocaching for our own enjoyment. I like reviewing the stats to see > how active the Arizona geocaching community is - not as a measure of > competition. On the record, I would like to say that we are providing the stats for informational uses only. They are far to inaccurate to really mean anything else. We would at some time like to provide some competion stuff, but it would be on an opt-in only basis and kept seperate from the rest of the stats. How many people would be interested in some sort of opt-in competition? Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:48:43 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:48:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020109014843.95412.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Now Larry, tell the truth. Aren't you competing when you race to get to a new cache first? Huh??? Repeat after me, "I'm Larry, and I'm a cachaholic." Bob --- Larry Farquhar wrote: ... > We're not in any competition or race while doing our > normal cache hunts. ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:55:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:55:42 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 Message-ID: <16f.6d85b70.296cfd1e@aol.com> From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 01:59:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:59:52 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 Message-ID: <68.19812cb8.296cfe19@aol.com> Larry's response to Libby raises a few questions of my own, of a newbie-ish nature... Is there a site/place/way to find out more information on obtaining these permits? Are they the same as State Trust Lands permits (of which I've seen mention of in some cache descriptions)? Can applications be downloaded? I certainly couldn't afford a $5000 fine... that's about as much as my vehicle is worth! :) -Mike- (n4/c) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 02:06:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 02:06:02 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition Message-ID: We would be interested. Team CBx2 >From: "Brian Cluff" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:44:55 -0700 > > > Just for the record, we're not participating in any "race" or >"competition". > > We do geocaching for our own enjoyment. I like reviewing the stats to >see > > how active the Arizona geocaching community is - not as a measure of > > competition. > >On the record, I would like to say that we are providing the stats for >informational uses only. They are far to inaccurate to really mean >anything >else. > >We would at some time like to provide some competion stuff, but it would be >on an opt-in only basis and kept seperate from the rest of the stats. > >How many people would be interested in some sort of opt-in competition? > >Brian Cluff >Team Snaptek > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 02:13:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:13:21 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition In-Reply-To: <20020109014843.95412.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's the old Larry. We've had our fair share of being first to a cache. On Junk Drawer Junkies - we waited almost 24 hours after the cache was posted to seek it out. I can't help it if everyone else was slow getting there. :-) No more jumping in the Jeep and racing to a new cache. However.... "I'm Larry, and I'm a cachaholic." Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Bob Renner Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:49 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Competition Now Larry, tell the truth. Aren't you competing when you race to get to a new cache first? Huh??? Repeat after me, "I'm Larry, and I'm a cachaholic." Bob --- Larry Farquhar wrote: ... > We're not in any competition or race while doing our > normal cache hunts. ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 02:56:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:56:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching Stats Webpage Message-ID: <3C3BB170.66527837@primenet.com> In the interest in keeping this listserv less cluttered with statistics (which doesn't interest some people), I have created a webpage of geocaching statistics and records that interest me. The keywords here are "interest me." I'm not attempting to please everyone. Hopefully I'll please some people. If these kinds of stats interest you, then please feel free to look at my webpage and offer comments and ideas of other statistics and records I could include. Please offer these comments to me via email and don't clutter up this listserv with comments. If I've overlooked some feat that you have done, please email me with this information. If these stats and records don't interest you, then please ignore my webpage. Sound fair? The webpage address is: http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html If you want to link to it from your webpage, then do so. If not, then don't. Snaptek Brothers... I've linked to some of the reports generated on your site. If you don't like this, please let me know. I figure in time you'll be giving these links on your site. I'll be glad to remove anything from my site if you prefer to have it on your site. Thanks for your help. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 03:27:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:27:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching Stats Webpage In-Reply-To: <3C3BB170.66527837@primenet.com> Message-ID: > Snaptek Brothers... I've linked to some of the reports generated on your > site. If you don't like this, please let me know. If I didn't want anyone linking to stuff on the site I would make it extremely difficult or impossible to do so. > I figure in time you'll be giving these links on your site. Actually I'll be putting an interface on it so that people can look up anything they want to, but there is other stuff I want to do before that happens. > I'll be glad to remove anything from my site if you prefer to have it > on your site. Well, eventually I'll probably have a lot of it on our site and I'll leave it up to you as to if you want to remove it or not. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 03:18:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 20:18:47 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Junk Drawer Junkies & Competition Message-ID: <3C3BB697.78F36955@primenet.com> That's what surprised me about the Junk Drawer Junkies cache... No one went for it the first day. And an easy one besides. It seems like the norm is for there to be a mad rush on the first day of an easy cache. (Easy cache defined as drive to with very short hike suitable for all cars and most people.) You bring a lot of enjoyment to the hobby with your reputation for being first. The Willow Creek Cache that Team Howler put together is a good example. With your reputation for being first, I put forth an extraordinary effort to be down there first, still only beating Mike the Mutant by about 20 minutes to the cache. That "race" made the experience a lot of fun for me. It didn't matter that you didn't know you were in a race. You set a standard and I decided I was going to beat that standard. I think that's a good example of why the stats and records are important to me. They provide a standard to measure my effort against. In reality I'm competing against myself and not directly with anyone else. It gives me a goal to shoot for. My grandfather once told me a story about growing up on a farm. Him and his siblings would race the neighbor farmer in doing some farm task. The thing is, the neighbor never knew there was a race going on. My grandfather saw the neighbor as setting a standard or goal with which to beat. -srdrake >That's the old Larry. We've had our fair share of being first to a cache. On >Junk Drawer Junkies - we waited almost 24 hours after the cache was posted >to seek it out. I can't help it if everyone else was slow getting there. :-) >No more jumping in the Jeep and racing to a new cache. > >However.... >"I'm Larry, and I'm a cachaholic." From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 03:17:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 20:17:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Land Permits In-Reply-To: <68.19812cb8.296cfe19@aol.com> Message-ID: These are permits I'm aware of to access OUR land in Arizona: BLM land - no permit required. Just abide by trail and road closure signs. 14 day free camping allowed in most areas. Indian Reservations - Each reservation has their own rules and possible permits required for access to their land. Contact the appropriate Indian Reservation for their specific requirements. Arizona State Trust Land - A recreational permit is required if accessing State Trust Land for other than hunting (hunting permit is valid) or just passing through. An annual permit is $15 for individual, or $20 for a family. This allows you access to most State Trust Land for recreational use, including Camping (7 day limit), Horseback riding, Off Highway, Photography, Picnicking, Hiking, and Bicycling. $500 (max) fine if caught without a permit. Most areas, even those marked "No trespassing" can be accessed with this permit. Along with the permit comes a list of areas that are closed. Permits can be obtained by mail or in person at: Arizona State Trust Land Department, 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ, 85007 (might try 602-542-7235). Tucson also has an office (address unknown). Forest Service - The Bull-Dog Canyon Off-Highway Area (Tonto National Forest) is an area that requires a permit to operate a motorized vehicle in the area. Hiking and camping are allowed without a permit. Permits are free, and are good for 6 months. $5000 (max) fine if caught driving in the area without a permit. The permit provides you with the combination to the gates for 6 months (combo is changed each month). Permits can be obtained ONLY at: Mesa Ranger District Office, 26 N. MacDonald, Mesa, AZ 85201 (480-610-3300 - call first, as they have weird office hours). Permits might be obtained by mail - call them. Barry M. Goldwater Range/Cabeza Preita National Wildlife Refuge/Area A portion of Sonoran Desert National Monument - A permit is required for ANY access (foot or vehicle) to this area, also known as "El Camino Del Diablo" (see cache GC294C http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10572). The permit is free and good from July through June. See cache GC294C for further details and where permits can be obtained. There might be other permits available, but these are the ones I'm aware of and have obtained the last 3. Anybody know of others? Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Noesis4@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:00 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 Larry's response to Libby raises a few questions of my own, of a newbie-ish nature... Is there a site/place/way to find out more information on obtaining these permits? Are they the same as State Trust Lands permits (of which I've seen mention of in some cache descriptions)? Can applications be downloaded? I certainly couldn't afford a $5000 fine... that's about as much as my vehicle is worth! :) -Mike- (n4/c) _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 16:28:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:28:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition References: Message-ID: <003901c19861$85c95b20$6501a8c0@Home> In the past I've enjoyed the friendly banter surrounding the stats, but I've been discouraged by recent events and my interest in any competition has cooled considerably. Because of that, I've put the Survivor idea on a back burner. I'm still considering the idea, but there doesn't appear to be enough state-wide interest to justify the two tribe approach. It might be best to have a trial run in the greater Phoenix area, but right now I've decided to let it rest for a month or so. I might be interested in the "opt-in competition" that the Snaptek guys are proposing at some point, but not in the near future. Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 04:30:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:30:36 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Land Permits Message-ID: <33.2083a2a8.296d216c@aol.com> Thanks, Larry, for this info - it is extremely helpful... -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 04:52:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 21:52:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Land Permits (another permit requirement) Message-ID: <3C3BCC87.1D969D47@primenet.com> This doesn't fall into the public land categories, but there is a large chunk of land (I think in southeast AZ) that is owned by a private group (Nature Conservancy???). They allow the land to be used for recreational use (camping & hiking only I believe). They restrict the number of people using the land and do so by a reservation permit system. I don't know anything more than this vague information. I have a co-worker who did some hiking and camping on their land about 8 years ago. Anyway, it's land that you don't want to put a geocache on. Perhaps someone else knows more. You didn't include National Parks and National Monuments in your list, but those rules of use are reasonably well-known and easy to find. City land (Phoenix Mountain Preserve for example) probably has specific rules related to it (like don't burn down houses nearby). From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 05:30:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:30:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition In-Reply-To: <003901c19861$85c95b20$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: I wouldn't let it get you too down. We are talking about one person here that didn't like something, and the whole situation just got a little out of hand. There are about 60 people on this mailing list and only about 6 or so that actually post anything. I'm willing to bet that there are more people interested in your survivor game than actually spoke up. Besides you were talking about an opt in type of situation, so if someone got offended about it they were either feeling left out or they are stupid for joining in the first place. I'm not exactly sure what I'm gonna do for a competition yet. May just an all out race where you put in the coordinates of your house (major cross streets would do as well for those that feel they don't want to give away that information.) and then after sevral people join in, the computer would pick sevral random caches that nobody in the group had been to that were all about equal distance from all the participants and then set a start date and the first one to finish all the caches (maybe with photo evidence... not sure how im gonna judge if someone actually has been there or not yet. Maybe a list of what was in the cache.) I'll probably come up with some sort of signup sheet where you can enter and list off dates that you are available to play and then someone else can come along and also do that.. when 2 or more teams have a date that they can both play the computer picks the caches and announces that there will be compition, then waits till probably 5 or 6 am and sends out an e-mail with a list of chosen caches.....GO (bang) Dunno, yet though...... I'm still thinking about it. I would like some automated thing so that it can be an ongoing thing without a lot of effort on anyones part. Oh yeah, I would probably let people pick how far they are willing to travel for the game too, so that we don't have people have to get the caches up on lake powell if they don't want to drive that far... and rent a boat.. etc etc :) Anyway... I would appreciate any thoughts about a game. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek > In the past I've enjoyed the friendly banter surrounding the stats, but I've > been discouraged by recent events and my interest in any competition has > cooled considerably. > > Because of that, I've put the Survivor idea on a back burner. I'm still > considering the idea, but there doesn't appear to be enough state-wide > interest to justify the two tribe approach. It might be best to have a trial > run in the greater Phoenix area, but right now I've decided to let it rest > for a month or so. > > I might be interested in the "opt-in competition" that the Snaptek guys are > proposing at some point, but not in the near future. > > Jerry > Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 05:17:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 22:17:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Land Permits References: Message-ID: <003f01c198cc$fc5713c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Great infor Larry thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:17 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Land Permits > These are permits I'm aware of to access OUR land in Arizona: > > BLM land - no permit required. Just abide by trail and road closure signs. > 14 day free camping allowed in most areas. > > Indian Reservations - Each reservation has their own rules and possible > permits required for access to their land. Contact the appropriate Indian > Reservation for their specific requirements. > > Arizona State Trust Land - A recreational permit is required if accessing > State Trust Land for other than hunting (hunting permit is valid) or just > passing through. An annual permit is $15 for individual, or $20 for a > family. This allows you access to most State Trust Land for recreational > use, including Camping (7 day limit), Horseback riding, Off Highway, > Photography, Picnicking, Hiking, and Bicycling. $500 (max) fine if caught > without a permit. Most areas, even those marked "No trespassing" can be > accessed with this permit. Along with the permit comes a list of areas that > are closed. Permits can be obtained by mail or in person at: Arizona State > Trust Land Department, 1616 W. Adams, Phoenix, AZ, 85007 (might try > 602-542-7235). Tucson also has an office (address unknown). > > Forest Service - The Bull-Dog Canyon Off-Highway Area (Tonto National > Forest) is an area that requires a permit to operate a motorized vehicle in > the area. Hiking and camping are allowed without a permit. Permits are free, > and are good for 6 months. $5000 (max) fine if caught driving in the area > without a permit. The permit provides you with the combination to the gates > for 6 months (combo is changed each month). Permits can be obtained ONLY at: > Mesa Ranger District Office, 26 N. MacDonald, Mesa, AZ 85201 (480-610-3300 - > call first, as they have weird office hours). Permits might be obtained by > mail - call them. > > Barry M. Goldwater Range/Cabeza Preita National Wildlife Refuge/Area A > portion of Sonoran Desert National Monument - A permit is required for ANY > access (foot or vehicle) to this area, also known as "El Camino Del Diablo" > (see cache GC294C > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10572). The permit is > free and good from July through June. See cache GC294C for further details > and where permits can be obtained. > > There might be other permits available, but these are the ones I'm aware of > and have obtained the last 3. > > Anybody know of others? > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of > Noesis4@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:00 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] 4x4 > > > > Larry's response to Libby raises a few questions of my own, of a newbie-ish > nature... > > Is there a site/place/way to find out more information on obtaining these > permits? Are they the same as State Trust Lands permits (of which I've seen > mention of in some cache descriptions)? Can applications be downloaded? > > I certainly couldn't afford a $5000 fine... that's about as much as my > vehicle is worth! :) > > -Mike- (n4/c) > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 05:50:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Ryan) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 05:50:42 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition Message-ID: My first reply....Tucson is not the Southern part of the state. As an introduction I have been lurking on the email list for about a month and looking for caches since October. My wife and son join in on the finds so we are truly enjoying the "sport" as a family. The Sierra Vista area is sparse in caches so I may have to move to Phoenix to catch up in the "contest" atmosphere but we really don't have the time to cache full time. We placed our first cache last weekend, Brown Canyon Cache, so if you are down in the area take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks for the fun, Cody >From: Scott Wood >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Competition >Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 18:31:07 -0700 > >At 05:44 PM 1/8/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >>How many people would be interested in some sort of opt-in competition? > >If there was some way to include those of us down here in the southern part >of the state, I would like to participate. > > >Scott >Team My Blue Heaven >www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Visit the Sierra Vista Elks Web Page at http://communities.msn.com/ElkShutterBug _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 06:00:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:00:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] (no subject) References: <003f01c198cc$fc5713c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <004d01c198d2$e5199e20$b1520d82@qwest.net> For anyone that has not seen the quilt here is the link http://forums.groundspeak.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001631.html Can see CBX2 square really well... still looking for the rest let me know if you see your libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 06:30:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:30:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Southern Arizona In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108232707.027f0300@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 05:50 AM 1/9/2002 +0000, you wrote: >My first reply....Tucson is not the Southern part of the state. As an >introduction I have been It is definitely the southern when you compare it to Phoenix. :-) > lurking on the email list for about a month and looking for caches since > October. My wife and son join in on the finds so we are truly enjoying > the "sport" as a family. The Sierra Vista area is sparse in caches so I > may have to move to Phoenix to catch up in the "contest" atmosphere but > we really don't have the time to cache full time. Things are starting to pick up here in Tucson. There are a number of new caches listed and a couple seem to pop up each weekend. I am really glad that things are starting to get active down here. > >We placed our first cache last weekend, Brown Canyon Cache, so if you are >down in the area take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks for >the fun, Cody We are actually planning a trip to the area to get a few of the caches down there. Probably hit the ones near Nogales and head east from there. Probably be sometime in February since we are making a California trip in two weeks and plan on getting as many as possible while there. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 8 19:54:41 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:54:41 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS in the news References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108232707.027f0300@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <000501c1987e$501773a0$6501a8c0@Home> Here is a recent interesting article about GPS in the news... http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/08/ret.gps.terror/index.html Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 13:41:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 06:41:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Competition References: <20020109014843.95412.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003c01c19913$6a7a1aa0$53207418@Pradley> "HI Larry!" ~~trisha heh heh heh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Renner" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:48 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Competition > Now Larry, tell the truth. Aren't you competing when > you race to get to a new cache first? Huh??? > > Repeat after me, "I'm Larry, and I'm a cachaholic." > > Bob > > --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > ... > > We're not in any competition or race while doing our > > normal cache hunts. > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 15:21:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:21:37 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS in the news References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020108232707.027f0300@mail.myblueheaven.com> <000501c1987e$501773a0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <000c01c19921$55f562c0$b4207418@Pradley> I just saw this too, through Hal Lindsey's online newsletter (for those interested in a Christian perspective on world events, www.hallindseyoracle.com) Hadn't thought of the GPS system being potentially vunerable, but it does make sense. Now that would put a damper on our hobby/adventure activity/obsession/addiction/competition (take your pick) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS in the news > Here is a recent interesting article about GPS in the news... > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/01/08/ret.gps.terror/index.html > > Jerry > Team Cache-Quest > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 17:52:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 10:52:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS in the news In-Reply-To: <000c01c19921$55f562c0$b4207418@Pradley> Message-ID: > Hadn't thought of the GPS system being potentially vunerable, but it does > make sense. > Now that would put a damper on our hobby/adventure > activity/obsession/addiction/competition (take your pick) I just wish that was the biggest thing that terrorists would attack. That way it would be kinda a bummer for a little bit till the army tracked down the source of the jam and eliminated it, but at least we would still have all our people and buildings. I'm guessing that the GPS jamming equiptment isn't for jamming the signal in other countries (that wouldn't really do THAT much) but it's for jamming the signal above stratigic targets so we have a hard time guiding our missles via gps and blowing them up. My guess is that you just put a GPS tracker and a jamming tracker and if you loose the signal, you just blow up the source of the jamming :) Some ex-military guy from the middle east said they would modify a microwave to run while the door was open and let it run in the middle of the desert somewhere so it would paint false radar insallations so that hopefully someone would bomb the microwave instead of the base. I'm not sure if that is true or not, but it's funny. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 9 20:05:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:05:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching Stats Webpage Message-ID: LOL!!!! I like the featured Websites section ;). _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 06:33:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 23:33:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109232905.027f4e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Team My Blue Heaven will be heading to Southern California for the weekend of the 19th through the 21st to visit family and try to hit some of the caches out there. The reason for this post is that I would like some advice from some of the Phoenix folks on some caches in the Phoenix area that we could hit on the way through Phoenix. What I would like to do is hit 2 or 3 on the way out and possibly 2 or 3 more on the way back. They would have to be fairly easy caches as we will not have a lot of time to devote to each one, but I would like to log a couple up there. We are planning a weekend in Phoenix later in the spring for the sole purpose of hitting some of the more challenging caches up there, but it would be nice to bag a few easier ones on our way through. I already have most of the ones that I am planning on looking for in California mapped out, including one that is supposedly just off the freeway near Palm Springs. Any advice/help on some in the Phoenix area would sure be appreciated. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 12:43:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 05:43:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Phoenix area caches Message-ID: <3C3D8C76.FD560AE0@primenet.com> Stay out of the poison oak in Southern California. I have learned 2 thing: (1) Poison oak is the 2nd most common plant in Southern California. (2) You can get the oils on you from the bushes even though the bushes have dropped all their leaves. Without leaves, they're very difficult to notice/identify. Think about it... caches are usually hid in brush a little ways off of normal trails. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 14:22:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:22:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline Message-ID: <3C3DA397.DF837DF7@primenet.com> I added an Arizona Geocaching Timeline on my stats and records webpage. I tried to give a time perspective of when "landmark" occurrances happened in the Arizona geocaching hobby. I hope to also add dates and notations for when 50th, 100th, 200th and 300th Arizona caches were hid. If you spot any error, please let me know (via email) or know of any other landmarks that occurred in the Arizona geocaching hobby that I could add. I expect to add within a week n4/c's 100th cache found in AZ. http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 15:08:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:08:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline In-Reply-To: <3C3DA397.DF837DF7@primenet.com> Message-ID: <20020110150821.39954.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Stephen, A slight correction to your timeline: August 11, 2001: Team Snaptek logs the first find on Rim RR Depot, 168 days after the cache is listed. The Rim RR Depot cache was found by a group effort of CBX2 (both halves), Lightning (and daughter), Team Snaptek (two members), and Bob Renner (and son). The cache itself was actually found (or should I say stumbled upon) by Cody Brown of CBX2, and the record should reflect that. I'm not trying to take away anything from Team Snaptek, who did a great job of eliminating a lot of locations, but just giving credit where credit is due. Bob Renner --- Stephen Drake wrote: > I added an Arizona Geocaching Timeline on my stats > and records webpage. > I tried to give a time perspective of when > "landmark" occurrances > happened in the Arizona geocaching hobby. I hope to > also add dates and > notations for when 50th, 100th, 200th and 300th > Arizona caches were > hid. If you spot any error, please let me know (via > email) or know of > any other landmarks that occurred in the Arizona > geocaching hobby that I > could add. I expect to add within a week n4/c's > 100th cache found in > AZ. > > http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 15:54:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:54:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline In-Reply-To: <20020110150821.39954.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And to be totally correct, team snaptek never actually touched the cache. After I almost fell off the side of the rim (thanks Jason for catching me, that could have been the beginning of an extremely bad day) and an exhausting failed hike in and out and then back in, both memeber were to tired to actually finish the hike up the side of the mountain to the cache. We could see where it was from where we were, so we defiantly found it, but the origional find was definatly cbx2. Rim RR depot definatly get the award for most frustrating cache I have ever been on. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek > A slight correction to your timeline: > August 11, 2001: Team Snaptek logs the first find on > Rim RR Depot, 168 days after the cache is listed. > > The Rim RR Depot cache was found by a group effort > of CBX2 (both halves), Lightning (and daughter), > Team Snaptek (two members), and Bob Renner (and son). > > The cache itself was actually found (or should I say > stumbled upon) by Cody Brown of CBX2, and the record > should reflect that. > > I'm not trying to take away anything from Team > Snaptek, who did a great job of eliminating a lot of > locations, but just giving credit where credit is > due. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 15:59:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:59:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline Message-ID: <20020110.085907.-650599.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> And another minor correction, Bronco Butte was logged on the 29th, not the 28th. At least people are looking at your site. Jerry_offtrail On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:54:31 -0700 (MST) Brian Cluff writes: > And to be totally correct, team snaptek never actually touched the > cache. > After I almost fell off the side of the rim (thanks Jason for > catching me, > that could have been the beginning of an extremely bad day) and an > exhausting failed hike in and out and then back in, both memeber > were to > tired to actually finish the hike up the side of the mountain to > the > cache. We could see where it was from where we were, so we defiantly > found > it, but the origional find was definatly cbx2. > > Rim RR depot definatly get the award for most frustrating cache I > have > ever been on. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > > A slight correction to your timeline: > > August 11, 2001: Team Snaptek logs the first find on > > Rim RR Depot, 168 days after the cache is listed. > > > > The Rim RR Depot cache was found by a group effort > > of CBX2 (both halves), Lightning (and daughter), > > Team Snaptek (two members), and Bob Renner (and son). > > > > The cache itself was actually found (or should I say > > stumbled upon) by Cody Brown of CBX2, and the record > > should reflect that. > > > > I'm not trying to take away anything from Team > > Snaptek, who did a great job of eliminating a lot of > > locations, but just giving credit where credit is > > due. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 16:13:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <3C3D8C76.FD560AE0@primenet.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110091137.00a51b10@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 05:43 AM 1/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Stay out of the poison oak in Southern California. I have learned 2 >thing: (1) Poison oak is the 2nd most common plant in Southern >California. (2) You can get the oils on you from the bushes even though >the bushes have dropped all their leaves. Without leaves, they're very >difficult to notice/identify. I grew up around poison oak and have a surprisingly high tolerance for it. Guess I am lucky in that regard. Even with that, we will be taking things very carefully while out there. You are right about it when the leaves fall though. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 16:23:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:23:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another archived cache In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110091137.00a51b10@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <20020110162326.46636.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> GC296C, Where Falcons Dare by Team Howler (bassetdl) has been archived. Bob Renner ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 17:52:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:52:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Phoenix area caches Message-ID: <200201101753.g0AHqkr80438@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> Scott Wood wrote on 1/10/02 9:13 AM : >I grew up around poison oak and have a surprisingly high tolerance for >it. Guess I am lucky in that regard. Even with that, we will be taking >things very carefully while out there. You are right about it when the >leaves fall though. It doesn't work that way! Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to these chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance will decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which results in the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the body to react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 18:14:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:14:45 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Phoenix area caches References: <200201101753.g0AHqkr80438@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <000d01c19a02$aed521a0$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to these > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance will > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which results in > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the body to > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system works. Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice so that it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it should work in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 18:49:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:49:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Both fixes have been made Message-ID: Thanks for alerting me to the error for both Bronco Butte and Rim RR Depot. The Bronco Butte was a typo on my part. The Rim RR Depot I didn't notice that it was a multi-team effort. I've corrected both on my webpage. Moral of the Story: If you do a cache with other teams, make sure you're the first to get to a computer to log your find. ha ha ha Bob, in my timeline, I assume that all geocaching entities are teams. Because your son sometimes joins you and doesn't log a find independently of you, I've assumed he's included in Team Bob Renner. Making specific note of teams being first to find a cache over 100 days after it's hid is an accomplishment that is worthy of mention. It generally indicates a cache is difficult to do and an extra effort is required. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 18:57:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:57:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy Message-ID: I have read everything I can find on the internet on poison oak/ivy during the past several weeks. The first person was right. People are born with some immunity. Continued exposure to the poison oak/ivy oils will make the body more prone to getting the rashes. The body's resistance gets weaker. The body is in effect reacting quicker to the invasion of the bothersome chemical. This is the opposite of what happens with other allergies where they try to desensitize you with allergy shots. There is no such thing as immunity from poison oak/ivy. You get in it enough and you'll eventually get it. When the poison oak/ivy rash appears, it can't be spread. The oil has already been absorbed by the body and what you're seeing is the body reacting to the presence of the oil. Scratching just causes problems because it causes an open wound that is susseptible to infections. Poison oak/ivy is very messy because it shows up as blisters and likes to stay around for as much as 2 weeks. The difference between poison oak and poison ivy is very minor. About the same difference between a basset hound and a beagle. > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to these > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance will > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which results in > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the body to > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system works. Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice so that it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it should work in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 19:12:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:12:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Both fixes have been made References: Message-ID: <003b01c19a0a$b67d4ce0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Bob, in my timeline, I assume that all geocaching entities are teams. Because your son sometimes joins you and doesn't log a find independently of you, I've assumed he's included in Team Bob Renner does this mean that a friend of mine that took my GPS to South america and caches with me most of the time logged some caches there .... there for they count as finds for team wolfb8 libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 19:40:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:40:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Both fixes have been made In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020110194013.69448.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Or it was hotter than hell when the cache was hidden and everyone was waiting for the temperature to cool down to a tolerable level before trying it so they didn't end up being a statistic themselves. I did Bronco Butte because I thought it would be a fun hike, and it turned out to be just that. Doing it in July would not have been enjoyable at all, IMHO. Bob --- srdrake@srpnet.com wrote: > ... > Making specific note of teams being first to find a > cache over 100 days > after it's hid is an accomplishment that is worthy > of mention. It generally > indicates a cache is difficult to do and an extra > effort is required. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 20:50:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made Message-ID: Is this a serious question? If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com as wolfb8, then the finds would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South America is not part of Arizona. >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my GPS to South america and >caches with me most of the time logged some caches there .... there for they >count as finds for team wolfb8 > >libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 20:56:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:56:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy Message-ID: I believe your correct. I used to be able to roll around in the stuff when I was growing up but then one summer I got it, bad. Now I can't go anywhere near it. Case in point I was just in SoCal on a buisness trip and was told that Poison Oak/Ivy was dormant this time of year. That person was wrong and lucky me got to prove him wrong. Sure enough I did the Stephens Creek cache located just south of San Jose and a few days later I get the dreaded itchy rash. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- I have read everything I can find on the internet on poison oak/ivy during the past several weeks. The first person was right. People are born with some immunity. Continued exposure to the poison oak/ivy oils will make the body more prone to getting the rashes. The body's resistance gets weaker. The body is in effect reacting quicker to the invasion of the bothersome chemical. This is the opposite of what happens with other allergies where they try to desensitize you with allergy shots. There is no such thing as immunity from poison oak/ivy. You get in it enough and you'll eventually get it. When the poison oak/ivy rash appears, it can't be spread. The oil has already been absorbed by the body and what you're seeing is the body reacting to the presence of the oil. Scratching just causes problems because it causes an open wound that is susseptible to infections. Poison oak/ivy is very messy because it shows up as blisters and likes to stay around for as much as 2 weeks. The difference between poison oak and poison ivy is very minor. About the same difference between a basset hound and a beagle. > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to these > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance will > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which results in > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the body to > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system works. Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice so that it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it should work in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 21:02:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:02:10 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both fixes have been made Message-ID: Correct. Or the Spring Training cache I listed in mid-December can't be achieved until March 1st, therefore it has a mandatory 75-80 days wait before the first log. The same is true of the Humphreys Peak virtual cache I did. Someone could do Humphreys Peak now (with winter hiking equipment as it is done), but most likely the first log won't be until June (150+ days after listing). The 100 day gap between listing and first find log has a lot of multiple interpretations and reasons, but with some subjective analysis, the long gap can be discounted on some as irrelevant to difficulty. Bronco Butte I think did probably intimidate some people and it did take time for a strategy for conquering it to be determined. The others I listed that went over 100 days before the first find log... Yes, temperature was a factor for some of them, but if you look at geocaching activity during the summer months, people are still going after caches. Doing a Hundred Dollar Cache in August is possible given that someone has the desire to do it then. And we know there is an attractiveness or status that can be associated with being the first to find a cache. (Look at the logs of people cheering that they were first. On a lot of them.) Bass Ackwards and the underwater one on Lake Havasu are two (that I can easily notice) that deserve special attention to the first to go find them. Of course I expect to see a yellow jeep log on both of them any day..... >Or it was hotter than hell when the cache was hidden >and everyone was waiting for the temperature to cool >down to a tolerable level before trying it so they >didn't end up being a statistic themselves. > >I did Bronco Butte because I thought it would be a >fun hike, and it turned out to be just that. Doing >it in July would not have been enjoyable at all, IMHO. > >Bob From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 21:23:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:23:18 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy References: Message-ID: <003001c19a1d$05f8b900$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> This description helped a ton. At least it lets me know that the immune system doesn't work backwards on certain things. It sounds in the case of poison ivy/owk that it's actually better to NOT have much of an immunity. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek Crossing my fingers that I never run into the stuff.... luckily it doesn't grow very well in the desert ----- Original Message ----- > I have read everything I can find on the internet on poison oak/ivy during > the past several weeks. The first person was right. People are born with > some immunity. Continued exposure to the poison oak/ivy oils will make the > body more prone to getting the rashes. The body's resistance gets weaker. > The body is in effect reacting quicker to the invasion of the bothersome > chemical. > > This is the opposite of what happens with other allergies where they try to > desensitize you with allergy shots. There is no such thing as immunity from > poison oak/ivy. You get in it enough and you'll eventually get it. > > When the poison oak/ivy rash appears, it can't be spread. The oil has > already been absorbed by the body and what you're seeing is the body > reacting to the presence of the oil. Scratching just causes problems > because it causes an open wound that is susseptible to infections. Poison > oak/ivy is very messy because it shows up as blisters and likes to stay > around for as much as 2 weeks. > > The difference between poison oak and poison ivy is very minor. About the > same difference between a basset hound and a beagle. > > > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to these > > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance will > > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which results in > > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the body to > > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. > > That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system works. > Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice so that > it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it should work > in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 21:23:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:23:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109232905.027f4e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <002101c19a1d$0d677e60$6501a8c0@Home> Scott: I'm not sure if any of the responses address you original question so I'll take a shot at it. I'll assume you are going through town on 10 and that you don't want to stray too far from the highway. Here are some ideas: There are two on the SW side that are close to each other and quite easy to get to. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=11698 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=9322 On the SE side these are fairly easy although a little more spread out. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10020 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=2237 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8450 There is a cluster around ASU. You could have lunch near Sneaky Peak, but 'A' mountain is a climb. These might take more time. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=9579 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=5314 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=658 There are a few around the zoo area. I think each of these involve a short walk, but might be a good break. You can park at the same spot for the second & third one. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10530 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8714 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=7787 If you find the right coordinates for this one, you won't be far from the highway in Tempe. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=11147 This ought to give you some ideas. Good Luck, Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > Team My Blue Heaven will be heading to Southern California for the weekend > of the 19th through the 21st to visit family and try to hit some of the > caches out there. > > The reason for this post is that I would like some advice from some of the > Phoenix folks on some caches in the Phoenix area that we could hit on the > way through Phoenix. > > What I would like to do is hit 2 or 3 on the way out and possibly 2 or 3 > more on the way back. They would have to be fairly easy caches as we will > not have a lot of time to devote to each one, but I would like to log a > couple up there. > > We are planning a weekend in Phoenix later in the spring for the sole > purpose of hitting some of the more challenging caches up there, but it > would be nice to bag a few easier ones on our way through. > > I already have most of the ones that I am planning on looking for in > California mapped out, including one that is supposedly just off the > freeway near Palm Springs. Any advice/help on some in the Phoenix area > would sure be appreciated. > > Scott > Team My Blue Heaven > www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 22:16:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:16:53 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <002101c19a1d$0d677e60$6501a8c0@Home> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109232905.027f4e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020110151538.00a52810@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 02:23 PM 1/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Scott: > >I'm not sure if any of the responses address you original question so I'll >take a shot at it. > >I'll assume you are going through town on 10 and that you don't want to >stray too far from the highway. Yes, I will be on I-10. I don't mind getting off the freeway, but don't want to spend too much driving time. Thanks for the list, I really appreciate it. I will start looking at them and see if I can come up with some sort of battle plan. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 22:32:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:32:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy Message-ID: <20020110.153228.-650599.3.peakbagger2@juno.com> I once heard a story about a kid who ate poison ivy to show off for his friends. Since this was the first time he was exposed, nothing happened. So he tried it again to show off one more time. This time he almost died. One more example of the reverse nature of this plant. Jerry-offtrail On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:56:01 -0700 "Baja Fleg" writes: > I believe your correct. I used to be able to roll around in the > stuff when > I was growing up but then one summer I got it, bad. Now I can't go > anywhere > near it. Case in point I was just in SoCal on a buisness trip and > was told > that Poison Oak/Ivy was dormant this time of year. That person was > wrong > and lucky me got to prove him wrong. Sure enough I did the Stephens > Creek > cache located just south of San Jose and a few days later I get the > dreaded > itchy rash. > > Michael > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > I have read everything I can find on the internet on poison oak/ivy > during > the past several weeks. The first person was right. People are > born with > some immunity. Continued exposure to the poison oak/ivy oils will > make the > body more prone to getting the rashes. The body's resistance gets > weaker. > The body is in effect reacting quicker to the invasion of the > bothersome > chemical. > > This is the opposite of what happens with other allergies where they > try to > desensitize you with allergy shots. There is no such thing as > immunity from > poison oak/ivy. You get in it enough and you'll eventually get it. > > When the poison oak/ivy rash appears, it can't be spread. The oil > has > already been absorbed by the body and what you're seeing is the > body > reacting to the presence of the oil. Scratching just causes > problems > because it causes an open wound that is susseptible to infections. > Poison > oak/ivy is very messy because it shows up as blisters and likes to > stay > around for as much as 2 weeks. > > The difference between poison oak and poison ivy is very minor. > About the > same difference between a basset hound and a beagle. > > > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to > these > > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance > will > > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which > results in > > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the > body to > > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. > > That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system > works. > Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice > so that > it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it > should work > in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. > > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 23:12:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:12:42 -0700 Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both fixes have been made Message-ID: Snow and cold definitely detract from caching for me, a long time AZ boy. I'm in Boston right now and it snowed the first two days this week. I'm hoping to get these travel bugs planted out here this weekend, as long as the storm stays south. BTW, wouldn't Bass Ackwards and Havasu require a yellow submarine?? :D Rob (Team CHUMP) -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 14:02 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both fixes have been made Correct. Or the Spring Training cache I listed in mid-December can't be achieved until March 1st, therefore it has a mandatory 75-80 days wait before the first log. The same is true of the Humphreys Peak virtual cache I did. Someone could do Humphreys Peak now (with winter hiking equipment as it is done), but most likely the first log won't be until June (150+ days after listing). The 100 day gap between listing and first find log has a lot of multiple interpretations and reasons, but with some subjective analysis, the long gap can be discounted on some as irrelevant to difficulty. Bronco Butte I think did probably intimidate some people and it did take time for a strategy for conquering it to be determined. The others I listed that went over 100 days before the first find log... Yes, temperature was a factor for some of them, but if you look at geocaching activity during the summer months, people are still going after caches. Doing a Hundred Dollar Cache in August is possible given that someone has the desire to do it then. And we know there is an attractiveness or status that can be associated with being the first to find a cache. (Look at the logs of people cheering that they were first. On a lot of them.) Bass Ackwards and the underwater one on Lake Havasu are two (that I can easily notice) that deserve special attention to the first to go find them. Of course I expect to see a yellow jeep log on both of them any day..... >Or it was hotter than hell when the cache was hidden >and everyone was waiting for the temperature to cool >down to a tolerable level before trying it so they >didn't end up being a statistic themselves. > >I did Bronco Butte because I thought it would be a >fun hike, and it turned out to be just that. Doing >it in July would not have been enjoyable at all, IMHO. > >Bob _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 23:27:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:27:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <002101c19a1d$0d677e60$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Better read the logs for these two. They were both reported missing by the owners and they are planned on being replaced, but no indication yet. Bob Renner --- Team Cache-Quest wrote: >.... > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8714 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=7787 >... ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 23:43:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Dave Chapman) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:43:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of late - here is the happy answer ... :-) http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl?babyID=h18-687 Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia -- David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 00:35:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:35:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <001701c19a37$e2d0d460$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> WOW! Nice "stats", congrats.... I'm sure you'll have her out caches in no time. With cache logs like... "found everything in good condition, took something and leaf slobber on everything else :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek ----- Original Message ----- > For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of > late - here is the > happy answer ... :-) > > http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 > > Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. > > Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > > -- > David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 00:38:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:38:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <20020111003839.86538.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations! You'll be taking her caching for her 1 mo. birthday, right? Eric Team Dragon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 10 23:46:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made References: Message-ID: <006701c19a30$f6805dc0$b1520d82@qwest.net> by all mean it is a serious question... they been loging under wolfb8 with me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i get a find for it or is it time for them to log on there own... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > Is this a serious question? > > If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com as wolfb8, then the finds > would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South America is not part of > Arizona. > > >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my GPS to South america and > >caches with me most of the time logged some caches there .... there for > they > >count as finds for team wolfb8 > > > >libby > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 01:17:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:17:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made References: <006701c19a30$f6805dc0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <000401c19a3d$b60136e0$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> > by all mean it is a serious question... they been loging under wolfb8 with > me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i get a find for it or is > it time for them to log on there own... Well, if it's an occational thing that a member of a team logs a cache on their own, I wouldn't think it should be a big deal, but if you have sevral people all going to caches on their own all the time and logging under the same person it could appear as artificially pumping up your numbers. There are not really and checks and balances. So far jason has been to every single cache that team snaptek has logged, but the only reason that is the case is that it's just worked out that way. Some day, probably soon, I will go do a cache without Jason and log it as a find under team snaptek. Of course we aren't in any danger of pumping up our scores quickly like that. I would rather go to a cache with him than without him... Caching alone sucks! Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 00:09:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:09:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <009101c19a34$2bdf0ea0$b1520d82@qwest.net> CONGRADS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIBBY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Chapman" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of > late - here is the > happy answer ... :-) > > http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 > > Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. > > Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > > -- > David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 01:21:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:21:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: Congratulations Dave and Cathy!!! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Dave Chapman Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:43 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of late - here is the happy answer ... :-) http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia -- David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 01:22:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:22:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline In-Reply-To: <3C3DA397.DF837DF7@primenet.com> Message-ID: Hello srdrake while you are fixing your time lines, I think CBx2 found their 100th cache on 12-9-01, we didn't find ours until 12-13. Thanks for the time line. Its interesting to see the evolution of caching in AZ. Ed Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Drake Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:22 AM To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Arizona Geocaching Timeline I added an Arizona Geocaching Timeline on my stats and records webpage. I tried to give a time perspective of when "landmark" occurrances happened in the Arizona geocaching hobby. I hope to also add dates and notations for when 50th, 100th, 200th and 300th Arizona caches were hid. If you spot any error, please let me know (via email) or know of any other landmarks that occurred in the Arizona geocaching hobby that I could add. I expect to add within a week n4/c's 100th cache found in AZ. http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 01:32:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:32:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] delay in emails Message-ID: I have a strange question. It has happened several times, I am receiving all the replys of congrats to Dave & Cathy, yet I haven't received the original message yet. This happened last week with the announcement of the new cache at Canyon Lake. I didn't get the original message until the next day. I have email through msn. ed Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 02:02:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:02:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <20020111020254.18432.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations and best wishes on your new deduction. Bob Renner --- Dave Chapman wrote: > For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac > has been quiet of > late - here is the > happy answer ... :-) > > http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl?babyID=h18-687 > > Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near > future. > > Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > > -- > David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 02:06:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:06:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Congratulations, Hope everyone is doing ok. Now you will have an extra pair of eyes looking for caches. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Larry Farquhar Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:21 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Congratulations Dave and Cathy!!! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Dave Chapman Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:43 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of late - here is the happy answer ... :-) http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia -- David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 02:49:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:49:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] delay in emails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It has happened several times, I am receiving all the replys of congrats to > Dave & Cathy, yet I haven't received the original message yet. This > happened last week with the announcement of the new cache at Canyon Lake. I > didn't get the original message until the next day. I have email through > msn. By chance did you set you mail settings for the mailing list to not send you your own messages? Also there are quite a few people on the list so it can take a while for a message to go out... it really shouldn't take much more than an hour or so to get to you though, it all depends on how lame the other peoples mail servers are. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 02:40:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:40:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] delay in emails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I get my message's that I send,it's just sometimes the original message get lost in limbo. ed -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Brian Cluff Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:50 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] delay in emails > It has happened several times, I am receiving all the replys of congrats to > Dave & Cathy, yet I haven't received the original message yet. This > happened last week with the announcement of the new cache at Canyon Lake. I > didn't get the original message until the next day. I have email through > msn. By chance did you set you mail settings for the mailing list to not send you your own messages? Also there are quite a few people on the list so it can take a while for a message to go out... it really shouldn't take much more than an hour or so to get to you though, it all depends on how lame the other peoples mail servers are. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 03:32:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:32:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Message-ID: Now I know how I moved ahead in the rankings! Hardly seems like a comparable ordeal... CONGRATULATIONS! I'll be looking for rattles and pacifiers for cache goodies in the near future! Do you have a geocache bumpersticker for the stroller yet?? Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: Ed Philpott [mailto:edphilpott@email.msn.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 19:06 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Congratulations, Hope everyone is doing ok. Now you will have an extra pair of eyes looking for caches. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Larry Farquhar Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 6:21 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Congratulations Dave and Cathy!!! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Dave Chapman Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:43 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of late - here is the happy answer ... :-) http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia -- David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 04:33:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:33:40 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches Message-ID: Congradulations to Dave and Olivia on their new addition! Team Cbx2 >From: Dave Chapman >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:43:12 -0700 > >For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of >late - here is the >happy answer ... :-) > >http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl?babyID=h18-687 > >Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. > >Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > >-- >David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 04:50:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 20:50:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made In-Reply-To: <006701c19a30$f6805dc0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> IMO, this is a choice for you to make. If any of the countries I have been to lately had caches other than mine, I would have logged them under Team Dragon, no matter that my wife and daughter didn't go. There's no right or wrong to the way we play this game, other than a few basic rules that reiterate what common sense should be saying. Choose to have your friend log them under wolfb8 or not, it's your decision. Eric Team Dragon --- wolfb8 wrote: > by all mean it is a serious question... they been > loging under wolfb8 with > me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i > get a find for it or is > it time for them to log on there own... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been > Made > > > > Is this a serious question? > > > > If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com > as wolfb8, then the > finds > > would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South > America is not part of > > Arizona. > > > > >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my > GPS to South america > and > > >caches with me most of the time logged some > caches there .... there for > > they > > >count as finds for team wolfb8 > > > > > >libby > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 05:08:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:08:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: Message-ID: <003101c19a5e$0c246680$6501a8c0@Home> WOW! Congratulations! My baby girl graduates high school this spring. Enjoy them while you can. Time flies. Jerry Team Cache-Quest p.s. Start a college savings account now!!!! >From: Dave Chapman >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:43:12 -0700 > >For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of >late - here is the >happy answer ... :-) > >http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl ?babyID=h18-687 > >Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. > >Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > >-- >David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 05:11:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:11:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made References: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003701c19a5e$6e311bc0$6501a8c0@Home> Hey, your friend can log them as Cache-Quest! Maybe then I can start catching up to "Wyle E"! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Quinn" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > IMO, this is a choice for you to make. If any of the > countries I have been to lately had caches other than > mine, I would have logged them under Team Dragon, no > matter that my wife and daughter didn't go. > > There's no right or wrong to the way we play this > game, other than a few basic rules that reiterate what > common sense should be saying. > > Choose to have your friend log them under wolfb8 or > not, it's your decision. > > Eric > Team Dragon > > > --- wolfb8 wrote: > > by all mean it is a serious question... they been > > loging under wolfb8 with > > me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i > > get a find for it or is > > it time for them to log on there own... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been > > Made > > > > > > > Is this a serious question? > > > > > > If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com > > as wolfb8, then the > > finds > > > would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South > > America is not part of > > > Arizona. > > > > > > >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my > > GPS to South america > > and > > > >caches with me most of the time logged some > > caches there .... there for > > > they > > > >count as finds for team wolfb8 > > > > > > > >libby > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 07:25:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:25:18 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Timeline: Trail Gypsy & Cbx2 Message-ID: <3C3E935E.B47D2475@primenet.com> Ed, There's a distinction here between finding your 100th cache total and finding your 100th cache in Arizona. Using the Snaptek stats which orders your logs in chronological order, I counted to 100 and came to 12/15 as the day both of you logged your 100th find in Arizona. The Snaptek stats don't give the cache details for outside Arizona so I can't count that. Does that adequately explain why you come up with an earlier date than the 12/15 I figured? Perhaps I figured 12/15 during a time when the Snaptek database got an incomplete refresh of data. I can count it up again. Please understand I was counting the 100th cache found in Arizona and not total. Thanks. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 05:03:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (DAVID G HANSEN) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:03:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19A22.A9A78C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just looked at the team specific data on the snaptek page and was wond= ering how I use the garmin waypoint format file ? I tried using easy gps= but it will only read the *.loc file format. ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19A22.A9A78C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just looked at the team specific data on the snaptek page&nbs= p; and was wondering how I use the garmin waypoint format file ?&nbs= p; I tried using easy gps but it will only read the *= .loc file format.
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19A22.A9A78C20-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 14:00:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:00:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both fixes have been made References: Message-ID: <005c01c19aa8$4f1d7b80$82217418@Pradley> What about a cache that was found, but hasn't been found since (our) find for over 6 months? Camp Wood Cache (Wyle E's) is an example....Flash and I bagged that one way back in July '01 and according to the logs, no one has been there since. ~~trisha "Lightning" This is only a semi-serious question....I was just pointing it out, not seeking any extra "credit"...LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both fixes have been made > Correct. Or the Spring Training cache I listed in mid-December can't be > achieved until March 1st, therefore it has a mandatory 75-80 days wait > before the first log. The same is true of the Humphreys Peak virtual cache > I did. Someone could do Humphreys Peak now (with winter hiking equipment as > it is done), but most likely the first log won't be until June (150+ days > after listing). > > The 100 day gap between listing and first find log has a lot of multiple > interpretations and reasons, but with some subjective analysis, the long gap > can be discounted on some as irrelevant to difficulty. > > Bronco Butte I think did probably intimidate some people and it did take > time for a strategy for conquering it to be determined. > > The others I listed that went over 100 days before the first find log... > Yes, temperature was a factor for some of them, but if you look at > geocaching activity during the summer months, people are still going after > caches. Doing a Hundred Dollar Cache in August is possible given that > someone has the desire to do it then. And we know there is an > attractiveness or status that can be associated with being the first to find > a cache. (Look at the logs of people cheering that they were first. On a > lot of them.) > > Bass Ackwards and the underwater one on Lake Havasu are two (that I can > easily notice) that deserve special attention to the first to go find them. > Of course I expect to see a yellow jeep log on both of them any day..... > > >Or it was hotter than hell when the cache was hidden > >and everyone was waiting for the temperature to cool > >down to a tolerable level before trying it so they > >didn't end up being a statistic themselves. > > > >I did Bronco Butte because I thought it would be a > >fun hike, and it turned out to be just that. Doing > >it in July would not have been enjoyable at all, IMHO. > > > >Bob > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 14:10:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:10:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109232905.027f4e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> <002101c19a1d$0d677e60$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <006701c19aa9$a99d66a0$82217418@Pradley> Thanks Jerry, gives me some ideas for my eventual assault on the Phx area..... ~~trisha "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > Scott: > > I'm not sure if any of the responses address you original question so I'll > take a shot at it. > > I'll assume you are going through town on 10 and that you don't want to > stray too far from the highway. > > Here are some ideas: > > There are two on the SW side that are close to each other and quite easy to > get to. > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=11698 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=9322 > > On the SE side these are fairly easy although a little more spread out. > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10020 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=2237 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8450 > > There is a cluster around ASU. You could have lunch near Sneaky Peak, but > 'A' mountain is a climb. These might take more time. > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=9579 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=5314 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=658 > > There are a few around the zoo area. I think each of these involve a short > walk, but might be a good break. You can park at the same spot for the > second & third one. > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=10530 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=8714 > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=7787 > > If you find the right coordinates for this one, you won't be far from the > highway in Tempe. > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=11147 > > This ought to give you some ideas. > > Good Luck, > Jerry > Team Cache-Quest > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Wood" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:33 PM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > > > > Team My Blue Heaven will be heading to Southern California for the weekend > > of the 19th through the 21st to visit family and try to hit some of the > > caches out there. > > > > The reason for this post is that I would like some advice from some of the > > Phoenix folks on some caches in the Phoenix area that we could hit on the > > way through Phoenix. > > > > What I would like to do is hit 2 or 3 on the way out and possibly 2 or 3 > > more on the way back. They would have to be fairly easy caches as we will > > not have a lot of time to devote to each one, but I would like to log a > > couple up there. > > > > We are planning a weekend in Phoenix later in the spring for the sole > > purpose of hitting some of the more challenging caches up there, but it > > would be nice to bag a few easier ones on our way through. > > > > I already have most of the ones that I am planning on looking for in > > California mapped out, including one that is supposedly just off the > > freeway near Palm Springs. Any advice/help on some in the Phoenix area > > would sure be appreciated. > > > > Scott > > Team My Blue Heaven > > www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 14:15:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:15:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy References: <20020110.153228.-650599.3.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <007601c19aaa$66513380$82217418@Pradley> Actually, that is a good example of how the body develops an allergic reaction/response (like beestings). The first time you are exposed, you have no allergic antigens to the offending substance, and your body develops these so that the next time you are exposed, your body has developed a "memory" in its immune system and attacks the substance...hence the allergic reaction. Not sure I explained that very well, but its early! ~~trisha "Lightning" (16 years registered nurse) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy > > I once heard a story about a kid who ate poison ivy to show off for his > friends. Since this was the first time he was exposed, nothing happened. > So he tried it again to show off one more time. This time he almost > died. One more example of the reverse nature of this plant. > > Jerry-offtrail > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:56:01 -0700 "Baja Fleg" > writes: > > I believe your correct. I used to be able to roll around in the > > stuff when > > I was growing up but then one summer I got it, bad. Now I can't go > > anywhere > > near it. Case in point I was just in SoCal on a buisness trip and > > was told > > that Poison Oak/Ivy was dormant this time of year. That person was > > wrong > > and lucky me got to prove him wrong. Sure enough I did the Stephens > > Creek > > cache located just south of San Jose and a few days later I get the > > dreaded > > itchy rash. > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > I have read everything I can find on the internet on poison oak/ivy > > during > > the past several weeks. The first person was right. People are > > born with > > some immunity. Continued exposure to the poison oak/ivy oils will > > make the > > body more prone to getting the rashes. The body's resistance gets > > weaker. > > The body is in effect reacting quicker to the invasion of the > > bothersome > > chemical. > > > > This is the opposite of what happens with other allergies where they > > try to > > desensitize you with allergy shots. There is no such thing as > > immunity from > > poison oak/ivy. You get in it enough and you'll eventually get it. > > > > When the poison oak/ivy rash appears, it can't be spread. The oil > > has > > already been absorbed by the body and what you're seeing is the > > body > > reacting to the presence of the oil. Scratching just causes > > problems > > because it causes an open wound that is susseptible to infections. > > Poison > > oak/ivy is very messy because it shows up as blisters and likes to > > stay > > around for as much as 2 weeks. > > > > The difference between poison oak and poison ivy is very minor. > > About the > > same difference between a basset hound and a beagle. > > > > > Everyone is born with some degree of tolerance, or immunity to > > these > > > chemical "reactions." With repeated exposure, this tolerance > > will > > > decrease, until the body develops a defensive reaction - which > > results in > > > the rash, etc. Some people only need one exposure to get the > > body to > > > react. Others require many, but it's not infinite. > > > > That sounds like the exact opposite of the way the immune system > > works. > > Isn't the reason you get shots to give your immune system practice > > so that > > it knows what to do what it gets the real thing. Seems like it > > should work > > in a similar way with poison ivy/oak. > > > > Brian Cluff > > Team Snaptek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 14:18:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:18:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> <3C3E2710.B020A3A4@email.sps.mot.com> Message-ID: <00a901c19aaa$e496f220$82217418@Pradley> Congratulations! Hope you all are doing well. Get sleep when you can! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Chapman" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > For those of you who are wondering why team oliviac has been quiet of > late - here is the > happy answer ... :-) > > http://www.newbabynews.net/hospitals/stj18/public/stj18birthannouncement.pl? babyID=h18-687 > > Looking forward to geocaching once again in the near future. > > Dave & Cathy & Olivia and Amelia > > -- > David Chapman rxtc90@email.mot.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 14:55:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 07:55:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made References: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> <003701c19a5e$6e311bc0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <014601c19ab0$07e8bf60$82217418@Pradley> I may be a bit of a stick in the mud here, but I think it is only fair that someone logs a find if they actually found the cache, either individually or as part of a team or expedition, or present in proximity if a group finds it. (Like Snaptek on RR Rim). If you don't find it, logically, you can't log a find. (duh) If you are part of a group of friends that caches together, but sometimes separately, the individual members can easily create a new ID and log their own finds. ~~trisha "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > Hey, your friend can log them as Cache-Quest! > > Maybe then I can start catching up to "Wyle E"! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Quinn" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > > > > IMO, this is a choice for you to make. If any of the > > countries I have been to lately had caches other than > > mine, I would have logged them under Team Dragon, no > > matter that my wife and daughter didn't go. > > > > There's no right or wrong to the way we play this > > game, other than a few basic rules that reiterate what > > common sense should be saying. > > > > Choose to have your friend log them under wolfb8 or > > not, it's your decision. > > > > Eric > > Team Dragon > > > > > > --- wolfb8 wrote: > > > by all mean it is a serious question... they been > > > loging under wolfb8 with > > > me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i > > > get a find for it or is > > > it time for them to log on there own... > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM > > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been > > > Made > > > > > > > > > > Is this a serious question? > > > > > > > > If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com > > > as wolfb8, then the > > > finds > > > > would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South > > > America is not part of > > > > Arizona. > > > > > > > > >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my > > > GPS to South america > > > and > > > > >caches with me most of the time logged some > > > caches there .... there for > > > > they > > > > >count as finds for team wolfb8 > > > > > > > > > >libby > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > > > > > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 16:13:55 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:13:55 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files References: Message-ID: <3C3F0F43.D05DF89B@snaptek.com> the garmin waypoint file only works with with garmins software program called mapsource... which comes with there map cd's like us roads and rec, topo, metro guide, etc.... the other file you can download is a regular comma delimited file that you might be able to import... with a little coaxing... ill download easy gps and take a look at it... never really had a need to... maybe i can figure out how to import them or a way to make a compatible file for others to use... jason -Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 16:33:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files In-Reply-To: <3C3F0F43.D05DF89B@snaptek.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093308.00a50810@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 09:13 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >ill download easy gps and take a look at it... never really had a need >to... maybe i can figure out how to import them or a way to make a >compatible file for others to use... That would actually be very helpful. I am using ExpertGPS and love it. It is basically just the upgraded version of EasyGPS. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 16:34:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:34:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches In-Reply-To: <20020110232745.78581.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <002101c19a1d$0d677e60$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093358.00a55c40@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 03:27 PM 1/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Better read the logs for these two. They were both >reported missing by the owners and they are planned >on being replaced, but no indication yet. When I sit down this weekend and try to map out which caches I am going to try to hit I will take a look at the logs. This sort of goes back to the discussion earlier about why it would be nice if people would log their unsuccessful attempts as well as their finds. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 16:32:38 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 09:32:38 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made In-Reply-To: <014601c19ab0$07e8bf60$82217418@Pradley> References: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> <003701c19a5e$6e311bc0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093108.00a54e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 07:55 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >If you are part of a group of friends that caches together, but sometimes >separately, the individual members can easily create a new ID and log their >own finds. Are you saying that if my wife and I find 95% of the caches we find together that I shouldn't be able to log my finds under Team My Blue Heaven if I go out after work and find one by myself? Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 17:11:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:11:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches Message-ID: I have a general question about ignored caches. Imaging that there's a cache that people repeatedly can't find and it's apparent that it's been liberated. Imagine that the person who hid the cache has become disinterested in geocaching and makes no effort to archive the cache or replace the cache. Will such a cache just remain indefinitely on the geocaching.com website as an active cache? I would expect this situation to occur regularly and that geocaching.com would become cluttered with inactive caches. There's no specific cache I'm thinking of, just a general question that has me curious. Thanks. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 18:02:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:02:47 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches References: Message-ID: <3C3F28C7.9EFE09A1@snaptek.com> no you could send and email to jeremey at geocaching.com he would probably look at all the not founds and archive it... he has done that on some before... jason srdrake@srpnet.com wrote: > > I have a general question about ignored caches. Imaging that there's a > cache that people repeatedly can't find and it's apparent that it's been > liberated. Imagine that the person who hid the cache has become > disinterested in geocaching and makes no effort to archive the cache or > replace the cache. Will such a cache just remain indefinitely on the > geocaching.com website as an active cache? > > I would expect this situation to occur regularly and that geocaching.com > would become cluttered with inactive caches. There's no specific cache I'm > thinking of, just a general question that has me curious. Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 18:01:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:01:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching "Teams" References: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> <003701c19a5e$6e311bc0$6501a8c0@Home> <014601c19ab0$07e8bf60$82217418@Pradley> Message-ID: <002801c19aca$0fc31900$6501a8c0@Home> Trisha, it probably wasn't obvious, but I was joking with my comment. I'll start a new topic here and see what kind of responses I get.... The concept of 'team' with regard to geocaching is a bit fuzzy and open to individual opinion. In my case, the team is my family. Since I'm the techno geek in my family who likes to play with my truck and gps, I'm the one obsessed with geocaching. I've been the common denominator present at all the finds. Sometimes I go alone, but usually it is an opportunity to spend time with some or all of the family. If I travel on business and get to do some caching, I still log it as Team Cache-Quest. There have been several times we have revisited caches because someone in the family missed it the first time and wanted to see the area or just try to find the cache. I have chosen not to log those as finds for the team, but that is just my preference. I often don't log them at all, unless there is something the owner or other cachers should know about. If a couple or friends normally cache together but sometimes cache individually, I don't think it matters if they log under one name. If they started logging a lot of caches individually, I would prefer they log individually, but it is not a big deal. The only time the question of "what is a geocaching team?" really matters is when we start looking at stats. This is a big reason why we can't take the stats too seriously. There are a lot of ways to manipulate them. Four people in Tucson, Phoenix, Prescott, and Flagstaff could easy consider themselves a "team" and blow away all the Arizona stats. I've had an idea for a chained set of several individual caches based on a specific theme that could mess up Steven's new daily stats because they would be concentrated enough to all be done in a day. Does this mean I shouldn't try it? I hope not. This is one of the reasons why I'm becoming more concerned about trying organized competitions. It is going to be hard to keep the competition fair. Looking back over this note, I've been on a bit of a soapbox. Take it for what it is worth. Keep on Caching! Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trisha Radley" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > I may be a bit of a stick in the mud here, but I think it is only fair that > someone logs a find if they actually found the cache, either individually or > as part of a team or expedition, or present in proximity if a group finds > it. (Like Snaptek on RR Rim). If you don't find it, logically, you can't log > a find. (duh) > If you are part of a group of friends that caches together, but sometimes > separately, the individual members can easily create a new ID and log their > own finds. > ~~trisha "Lightning" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Team Cache-Quest" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > > > > Hey, your friend can log them as Cache-Quest! > > > > Maybe then I can start catching up to "Wyle E"! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric Quinn" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > > > > > > > IMO, this is a choice for you to make. If any of the > > > countries I have been to lately had caches other than > > > mine, I would have logged them under Team Dragon, no > > > matter that my wife and daughter didn't go. > > > > > > There's no right or wrong to the way we play this > > > game, other than a few basic rules that reiterate what > > > common sense should be saying. > > > > > > Choose to have your friend log them under wolfb8 or > > > not, it's your decision. > > > > > > Eric > > > Team Dragon > > > > > > > > > --- wolfb8 wrote: > > > > by all mean it is a serious question... they been > > > > loging under wolfb8 with > > > > me... now they take a trip and i do not go... do i > > > > get a find for it or is > > > > it time for them to log on there own... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:50 PM > > > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been > > > > Made > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a serious question? > > > > > > > > > > If your friend logged the caches on geocaching.com > > > > as wolfb8, then the > > > > finds > > > > > would count for wolfb8. But last I checked, South > > > > America is not part of > > > > > Arizona. > > > > > > > > > > >does this mean that a friend of mine that took my > > > > GPS to South america > > > > and > > > > > >caches with me most of the time logged some > > > > caches there .... there for > > > > > they > > > > > >count as finds for team wolfb8 > > > > > > > > > > > >libby > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > > > > > > > > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > > > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 18:18:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:18:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111111716.00a53100@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 10:11 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I would expect this situation to occur regularly and that geocaching.com >would become cluttered with inactive caches. There's no specific cache I'm >thinking of, just a general question that has me curious. Thanks. There have been a few threads over on the geocaching discussion board. Basically it was said that if this happens you can contact Jeremy and he will try to contact the cache owner. If they don't respond he then archives the cache. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 18:50:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:50:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Geocaching "Teams" In-Reply-To: <002801c19aca$0fc31900$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: > The concept of 'team' with regard to geocaching is a bit fuzzy and open to > individual opinion. Just as a note, I think team snaptek might have been the first "team" ever. Most certainly the first one in arizona.... So if this starts a fight, it's our fault :) (I hope not though) > There have been several times we have revisited caches because someone in > the family missed it the first time and wanted to see the area or just try > to find the cache. I have chosen not to log those as finds for the team, but > that is just my preference. I often don't log them at all, unless there is > something the owner or other cachers should know about. Logging every time does tell cachers something important.... it was there when on the date that you went. Even if you don't have any new information get a "ping" from the cache can get others to also attempt the same cache that might be a little reluctant. > If a couple or friends normally cache together but sometimes cache > individually, I don't think it matters if they log under one name. If they > started logging a lot of caches individually, I would prefer they log > individually, but it is not a big deal. My thoughts exactly............. > The only time the question of "what is a geocaching team?" really matters is > when we start looking at stats. This is a big reason why we can't take the > stats too seriously. There are a lot of ways to manipulate them. Four > people in Tucson, Phoenix, Prescott, and Flagstaff could easy consider > themselves a "team" and blow away all the Arizona stats. I've had an idea > for a chained set of several individual caches based on a specific theme > that could mess up Steven's new daily stats because they would be > concentrated enough to all be done in a day. Does this mean I shouldn't try > it? I hope not. There are been a lot of argument on this list about the existance (Mostly from one person against). The reason that there are so many stats and they go into quite a bit of detail is to manipulate the data in as many ways as we could thing up. Effectivly we have cut down on the competitivenes of geocache while raising it at the same time. To maybe clear up what I mean. Imagine watching football, baseball, basketball, whatever. Now instead of a score that give you tons of information at the end that is very detailed al mixed in with the traditional score. Now it's up to the person reading the information as to who "won" the game, especially when the idea of the "score" can be blurred to some extent. Anyway, thats the way I see the stats. I mainly see them as informational only. With lots of ways to manipulate the data. They are mainly there to give you some motivation to cache more, but the real motivation has to come from yourself. You just find a particular stat that someone has above you and go out and try to beat it... thats all. No winners, no loosers, just one team beating 1 stat out of a hundred of some team that just happened to be over them in that particular area. With always keeping in mind that because of cachers that hardly ever or even never log their finds, we will never know who is really the "winner". There are quite a few teams that seem to have only hidden multiple caches, and quite a few of them at that. That might be very very active caches and just not active loggers. Who knows, the stats are probably only 60% or 70% accurate at the very best. oops I've also soapboxed a little here... d'oh! > This is one of the reasons why I'm becoming more concerned about trying > organized competitions. It is going to be hard to keep the competition > fair. Thats why I haven't just thrown something up. I've been thinking that for some sort of organized competition that there could be no item exchange just visit the cache and make a list of its contents. That way someone would have to go there to find that out. That when everyone has logged their finds and the particular game is over you show what everyone found in the cache and it should become fairly obvious if someone wasn't actually there. Anyway... I'm still thinking about what I'll put together, if anything. I want to make sure that there aren't any arguments about any outcome. I will definatly have to wait a bit as I'm working on a secret project that I hope to have done fairly soon and readto reveil to the geocaching community. You can relax Team TJ, it's not more stats.. well not really, and it will be available in other stats and probably the world.... but I have said too much. You'll just have to wait and see what we got cooking up. :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek (not brothers :) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 18:53:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:53:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111111716.00a53100@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: > There have been a few threads over on the geocaching discussion > board. Basically it was said that if this happens you can contact Jeremy > and he will try to contact the cache owner. If they don't respond he then > archives the cache. The smart thing to do would be to monitor the loggs and when there are a few not founds in a row or maybe even after a couple and a long period of time it should mail out a code that will have to be put into the geocaching site to keep the cache alive, or maybe just a not from the owner telling us that its still there. That way keeping it from becoming a full time job. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 19:04:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:04:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" Message-ID: Please ignore all stats and records when considering what caches to start. If you have a great idea for a series of caches, then go for it. I'd love to see some new creative caches. (Rumor has it that there are 5 caches in the trunk of n4/c's car. You just got to figure out the coordinates!) I view the stats and records (that I've summarized on my webpage) as sort of snapshots of what the geocaching is like today and for the past 18 months. I expect that the hobby will grow during the next 12 months that stats and records today will all be blown out of the water. There are great inaccuracies in the stats. There are several active geocachers who don't log many of their finds. Team Sand Dollar has found over 50 but has logged less than 10. Wolfb8 has given several indications that her stats are incorrect (caches found but not logged and friends finding caches and logging them on her id). And there's others... The stats are meant for fun and not for competition. I've used the stats myself as motivations and setting a target of what I want to go find. I love the stats. On another note, I've been curious to download the .csv files of caches each team has done and line them up on a spreadsheet for the teams that have done the most AZ caches. I am curious if a merger of teams 2-10 (in AZ ranking of AZ caches found) would collectively have more caches found in AZ than Wyle E. (In a way that makes me think of playing Monopoly with 6 people... Mergers occur and it soon ends up into being two mega-teams.) -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 19:12:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:12:57 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" Message-ID: That's the way I see it. I look for some stat or target to beat. That sort of thing motivates me by making it a little more interesting. My current goals related to the stats: I'm trying to pass n4/c on total caches found. (He knows this and I believe it's added a little motiviation to him also.) I'm trying to get to 100 AZ caches found by 2/3. I want to keep the average difficulty and terrain ratings of caches found above 2.00. I want my Cache Karma to always be positive. I want to have done the 100 caches closest to my home zip code. -srdrake >Anyway, thats the way I see the stats. I mainly see them as informational >only. With lots of ways to manipulate the data. They are mainly there to >give you some motivation to cache more, but the real motivation has to >come from yourself. You just find a particular stat that someone has >above you and go out and try to beat it... thats all. No winners, no >loosers, just one team beating 1 stat out of a hundred of some team that >just happened to be over them in that particular area. With always >keeping in mind that because of cachers that hardly ever or even never log >their finds, we will never know who is really the "winner". There are >quite a few teams that seem to have only hidden multiple caches, and quite >a few of them at that. That might be very very active caches and just >not active loggers. Who knows, the stats are probably only 60% or 70% >accurate at the very best. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 20:11:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:11:25 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" Message-ID: Regarding Stephen's statement- "My current goals related to the stats: I'm trying to pass n4/c on total caches found. (He knows this and I believe it's added a little motiviation to him also.)" I'm not locating these caches out of any competitive desire to be at the top of Snaptek's list (hey - I'm just obsessive-compulsive. Besides, I can't afford a yellow jeep with *real* suspension!:), but I'll admit that there is an element of fun added to the hobby when a bit of harmless, friendly competition is involved. In a way, I almost feel a greater link to the geocaching community or certain members within it (I'm a 'lone' cacher) if my own efforts are sparking a similar effort or motivation in them. That's a compliment. Not that Stephen has to worry about achieving that goal; it should be relatively easy to pass me up in the next month..! Regarding his other comment - "I want my Cache Karma to always be positive." It is obvious that I am destined to be the Dark Lord of Negative Cache Karma here, my own anti-score exceeded only by Trail Gypsy, I believe. I'm watching my steps carefully on the trail these days for rattlers, scorpions, tarantulas, rabid bats, deraged groundsquirrels with sharp teeth, and buried mine shafts to plunge into. Although the rumor of 5 ammo boxes in my vehicle is indeed true, it will be a little while before they are placed, and my standing redeemed in the Karma category. 'Till then, you'll be able to spot me on the trail - I'll be the one holding the GPSR with the dark clouds swirling about overhead.. -n4/c, Evil Seeker of Caches From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 20:23:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Scout?=) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:23:28 -0600 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20Geocaching=20=22Teams=22?= In-Reply-To: <200201111905.MAA20277@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <3C2A4F4700005872@mail.san.yahoo.com> "Team Cache-Quest" wrote: >The concept of 'team' with regard to geocaching is a bit fuzzy and open to >individual opinion. The concept of "team" is a big part of Geodashing, so maybe you might find how it's done in that sister sport of interest. Individuals always hunt and report target waypoints individually, but groups of players have their individual scores added together for team scores. There are some husband/wife players who choose to report only one score. There is a brother/brother combination who sometimes go out together and each reports separately. There are friend/friend/friend combinations who sometimes go out together, sometimes separately, and they all report separately. All in all, it works fairly well. What would cause trouble if there are two or more people who all share the same ID, but don't always travel together. That would be seen as an unfair advantage. Because the friendly competition is a big part of Geodashing, we would have to forbid that. I don't know if it makes much difference or not in geocaching, where the competition, even the friendly type, and the scoring, is not such a big deal. By the way, I've lurked for a long time, but haven't posted because I'm not an Arizonan. I do admire the camaraderie that you have developed here. --- Scout From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 20:29:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:29:39 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made References: <20020111045050.57561.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com> <003701c19a5e$6e311bc0$6501a8c0@Home> <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093108.00a54e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <001601c19ade$b2bf8e40$4b207418@Pradley> No, I think a husband and wife team is more closely linked together than a group of friends who get together to socialize or cache together, don't you think? Did you notice I qualified my opinion by saying "A group of friends?" That's as silly as saying that if my best girlfriend in Phoenix goes out and finds a cache, can she log it under my name as a find, just because she is my friend? (and wants to help me increase my stats, that I really don't care about in the first place?) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made > At 07:55 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >If you are part of a group of friends that caches together, but sometimes > >separately, the individual members can easily create a new ID and log their > >own finds. > > Are you saying that if my wife and I find 95% of the caches we find > together that I shouldn't be able to log my finds under Team My Blue Heaven > if I go out after work and find one by myself? > > > Scott > Team My Blue Heaven > www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 21:05:20 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:05:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111111716.00a53100@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <20020111210520.50810.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com> That has happened with several local caches and when the evidence supported it, he archived them. --- Scott Wood wrote: > At 10:11 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >I would expect this situation to occur regularly > and that geocaching.com > >would become cluttered with inactive caches. > There's no specific cache I'm > >thinking of, just a general question that has me > curious. Thanks. > > There have been a few threads over on the geocaching > discussion > board. Basically it was said that if this happens > you can contact Jeremy > and he will try to contact the cache owner. If they > don't respond he then > archives the cache. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 11 20:42:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:42:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" References: Message-ID: <003b01c19ae0$8e7700c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Wolfb8 has given several indications that her stats are incorrect (caches found but not logged and friends finding caches and logging them on her id). Dude you need to stop ... I asked a question.... I have been present at all log caches under Wolfb8.... I have have been the one to hide the every cache that has been hidden under said log in... I am no longer logging find right now do to personal reason...... and do not know if I will log when when i can...... but when the time come i will log the caches that have been hidden..... just because they will be worthless unless they are posted.... DO NOT try to speak for me libby ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" > Please ignore all stats and records when considering what caches to start. > If you have a great idea for a series of caches, then go for it. I'd love > to see some new creative caches. (Rumor has it that there are 5 caches in > the trunk of n4/c's car. You just got to figure out the coordinates!) > > I view the stats and records (that I've summarized on my webpage) as sort of > snapshots of what the geocaching is like today and for the past 18 months. > I expect that the hobby will grow during the next 12 months that stats and > records today will all be blown out of the water. > > There are great inaccuracies in the stats. There are several active > geocachers who don't log many of their finds. Team Sand Dollar has found > over 50 but has logged less than 10. Wolfb8 has given several indications > that her stats are incorrect (caches found but not logged and friends > finding caches and logging them on her id). And there's others... The > stats are meant for fun and not for competition. I've used the stats myself > as motivations and setting a target of what I want to go find. I love the > stats. > > On another note, I've been curious to download the .csv files of caches each > team has done and line them up on a spreadsheet for the teams that have done > the most AZ caches. I am curious if a merger of teams 2-10 (in AZ ranking > of AZ caches found) would collectively have more caches found in AZ than > Wyle E. (In a way that makes me think of playing Monopoly with 6 people... > Mergers occur and it soon ends up into being two mega-teams.) > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 00:11:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:11:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Geocaching "Teams" Message-ID: <3C3F7F18.3E89300F@primenet.com> I haven't spoken (or written) a single word for you. You told everyone on here within the past 24 hours that you have a friend who's made logs for you in South America. Look at your posts of the following date/times. Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:12:13 -0700 Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:46:02 -0700 Your spelling and grammar can be very difficult to understand at times. Perhaps what we're all reading isn't what you're intending to write. > Dude you need to stop ... I asked a question.... I have been present at all >log caches under Wolfb8.... I have have been the one to hide the every cache >that has been hidden under said log in... I am no longer logging find >right now do to personal reason...... and do not know if I will log when >when i can...... but when the time come i will log the caches that have been >hidden..... just because they will be worthless unless they are posted.... >DO NOT try to speak for me > >libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 02:54:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:54:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files In-Reply-To: <3C3F0F43.D05DF89B@snaptek.com> Message-ID: Maybe to help with the conversion from EasyGPS and Garmin, search for and look at a program called GeoBuddy. It works great in converting waypoint files. I sometimes use it to download a EasyGPS .loc file from the geocaching web site, then use GeoBuddy to convert to a Garmin waypoint file. It save a lot of cut and paste on new caches. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason Poulter Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:14 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files the garmin waypoint file only works with with garmins software program called mapsource... which comes with there map cd's like us roads and rec, topo, metro guide, etc.... the other file you can download is a regular comma delimited file that you might be able to import... with a little coaxing... ill download easy gps and take a look at it... never really had a need to... maybe i can figure out how to import them or a way to make a compatible file for others to use... jason -Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 02:56:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:56:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093308.00a50810@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: Scott; Use GeoBuddy to convert the Garmin waypoint files into the format ExpertGPS will use. It's a real useful utility. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:34 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files At 09:13 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >ill download easy gps and take a look at it... never really had a need >to... maybe i can figure out how to import them or a way to make a >compatible file for others to use... That would actually be very helpful. I am using ExpertGPS and love it. It is basically just the upgraded version of EasyGPS. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 03:07:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:07:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020111093108.00a54e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: Obviously, anyone can do as they please. With us, we log finds as Team "Wyle E" ONLY if I (Larry) am on the cache hunt. My wife, daughters, and dog can be with me and I mention who (if anyone) was with me. However, if any of them find a cache WITHOUT me being there, they either log it under their own name, or don't log it at all. In other words, the team doesn't log a find unless I was on the cache hunt. Otherwise, we do have 4 GPS receivers. Each of us could split up and look for a few different caches each. If we were just starting, it would be easy for us to split up and find 30 - 40 caches between us in 1 day. Now that I just said all this - I realize we're going to break our own rule. Connie plans on attending the upcoming Ladies Night Out Event without me. Since it is restricted to "ladies" only, we'll probably still log the 'find' if she attends the event without me. Guess this proves there's always an exception to every rule (even self-imposed rules). Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:33 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Both Fixes Have Been Made At 07:55 AM 1/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: >If you are part of a group of friends that caches together, but sometimes >separately, the individual members can easily create a new ID and log their >own finds. Are you saying that if my wife and I find 95% of the caches we find together that I shouldn't be able to log my finds under Team My Blue Heaven if I go out after work and find one by myself? Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 03:11:08 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:11:08 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If Jeremy is notified of the "abandoned" cache, he'll attempt to contact the owner. If he doesn't get a reply, he'll archive the cache. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of srdrake@srpnet.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:12 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Provisions for Ignored Caches I have a general question about ignored caches. Imaging that there's a cache that people repeatedly can't find and it's apparent that it's been liberated. Imagine that the person who hid the cache has become disinterested in geocaching and makes no effort to archive the cache or replace the cache. Will such a cache just remain indefinitely on the geocaching.com website as an active cache? I would expect this situation to occur regularly and that geocaching.com would become cluttered with inactive caches. There's no specific cache I'm thinking of, just a general question that has me curious. Thanks. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 03:54:55 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:54:55 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Take a look at this geocache Message-ID: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> GC31C8 - Finding Courage This is the first time I've seen a geocache like this. Evidently a traveller bug is to be tracked via a geocache rather than as a traveller bug. Isn't this like double accounting of a traveller bug? From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 03:38:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches References: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> Message-ID: <004f01c19b1a$9472efe0$b1520d82@qwest.net> If someone would like to take over the care of the cache i have out there all or some email me..... else i will archive them From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 04:50:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 21:50:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files References: Message-ID: <3C3FC0A6.4925ABBD@snaptek.com> i added a new link on the main menu side bar you can now download the waypoints in an EasyGPS format... the team easygps format will also soon be available!!! jason Team Snaptek Larry Farquhar wrote: > Maybe to help with the conversion from EasyGPS and Garmin, search for and > look at a program called GeoBuddy. > > It works great in converting waypoint files. I sometimes use it to download > a EasyGPS .loc file from the geocaching web site, then use GeoBuddy to > convert to a Garmin waypoint file. It save a lot of cut and paste on new > caches. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:14 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] help with garmin files > > the garmin waypoint file only works with with garmins software program > called mapsource... which comes with there map cd's like us roads and > rec, topo, metro guide, etc.... > > the other file you can download is a regular comma delimited file that > you might be able to import... with a little coaxing... > > ill download easy gps and take a look at it... never really had a need > to... maybe i can figure out how to import them or a way to make a > compatible file for others to use... > > jason > -Team Snaptek > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 05:21:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:21:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy Message-ID: <200201120521.g0C5LLh337352@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> Trisha Radley wrote on 1/11/02 7:15 AM : >Actually, that is a good example of how the body develops an allergic >reaction/response (like beestings). The first time you are exposed, you have >no allergic antigens to the offending substance, and your body develops >these so that the next time you are exposed, your body has developed a >"memory" in its immune system and attacks the substance...hence the allergic >reaction. Not sure I explained that very well, but its early! Good explanation, but it's a little more complicated than that. The oils/chemicals from the poison ivy are not harmful to the skin, do not cause any symptoms, and do not cause antibodies to be produced. The invading chemical is "digested" (bad word), on the skin, and reacts with the skin proteins. The resulting components are manifested as "foreign" to the body's immune system. This usually takes hours, so there is time to wash the junk off (if you know it is there.) Now the immune system sends white blood cells to the "foreign" area, where they end up attacking everything in the area. This is what causes all the damage. I don't remember the mechanism that explains "immunity," and why repeated exposure results in greater damage. -Jim From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 13:58:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 06:58:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches References: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> <004f01c19b1a$9472efe0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <003601c19b71$3ef5f240$9f207418@Pradley> Libby, I'll do the ones that are near me, if any... ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "wolfb8" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches > If someone would like to take over the care of the cache i have out there > all or some email me..... else i will archive them > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 14:03:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:03:42 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy References: <200201120521.g0C5LLh337352@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <004701c19b71$f2b14c80$9f207418@Pradley> A good, more thorough definition...are we boring anybody yet? I do understand the mechanism that explains "immunity" and why repeated exposure results in greater damage, but I don't feel like trying to write it out all here.....LOL ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Stamm" To: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy > Trisha Radley wrote on 1/11/02 7:15 AM : > > >Actually, that is a good example of how the body develops an allergic > >reaction/response (like beestings). The first time you are exposed, you have > >no allergic antigens to the offending substance, and your body develops > >these so that the next time you are exposed, your body has developed a > >"memory" in its immune system and attacks the substance...hence the allergic > >reaction. Not sure I explained that very well, but its early! > > Good explanation, but it's a little more complicated than that. The > oils/chemicals from the poison ivy are not harmful to the skin, do not > cause any symptoms, and do not cause antibodies to be produced. The > invading chemical is "digested" (bad word), on the skin, and reacts with > the skin proteins. The resulting components are manifested as "foreign" > to the body's immune system. This usually takes hours, so there is time > to wash the junk off (if you know it is there.) > > Now the immune system sends white blood cells to the "foreign" area, > where they end up attacking everything in the area. This is what causes > all the damage. > > I don't remember the mechanism that explains "immunity," and why repeated > exposure results in greater damage. > > -Jim > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 12 15:41:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:41:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Poison Oak/Ivy Message-ID: <200201121540.g0CFeju14576@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> Trisha Radley wrote on 1/12/02 7:03 AM : >A good, more thorough definition...are we boring anybody yet? >I do understand the mechanism that explains "immunity" and why repeated >exposure results in greater damage, but I don't feel like trying to write it >out all here.....LOL I don't blame you. I first heard it from a doctoral candidate working on occupational immunology reactions, and it's a tough one to explain. Does it have something to do with T-cells acquiring memory? -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 00:23:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (David Hansen) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:23:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re. help with garmin files Message-ID: <20020113002335.6603.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> wyle you mentioned a conversion program called geobuddy but all my searches have come up empty any suggestions on where to look ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 00:18:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:18:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches Message-ID: If I may ask libby what happened? We used to enjoy looking for your caches and I think we were the first people to find your first cache. T-bird wan't it? I'm still waiting to know what happened to the Tamba cache that was found on South Mountain. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- If someone would like to take over the care of the cache i have out there all or some email me..... else i will archive them _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 01:08:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:08:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I picked up the "old" tamba cache from stage 3 of Having a ball. I emailed libby, but it must not have gone through as I didn't get a response. The regular Tamba is on location as I had just found it a week or two prior. Libby, let me know and I'll return the can to you. Ed Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Baja Fleg Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:18 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] hidden caches If I may ask libby what happened? We used to enjoy looking for your caches and I think we were the first people to find your first cache. T-bird wan't it? I'm still waiting to know what happened to the Tamba cache that was found on South Mountain. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- If someone would like to take over the care of the cache i have out there all or some email me..... else i will archive them _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 03:45:41 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:45:41 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Diablo Point Cache Message-ID: <3C4102E5.CBCD81AF@primenet.com> Take a look at all the "can't find" logs on the Diablo Point Cache. I added mine today after an hour of looking. Although this cache is hit with the can't find flu, I'm sure the cache didn't become liberated. Found 6 out of 7 caches today. Great one in North Pole. It took me awhile to get my brain thinking. After climbing mountains most of the day, I really appreciated the flat hikes of North Pole and Lone Mountain. I bet in Kansas all caches are rated 1 or 2 for terrain. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 03:54:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? which gps software to you use the most? jason Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:03:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:03:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <3C410717.2F3DDB1@primenet.com> I use the cheapest Garmin (It's yellow). I don't use any software. I hand-enter the coordinates of caches on my planned list each day. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:10:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:10:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! References: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: <3C4108B1.E06A41CA@snaptek.com> i use a Garmin GPS V and mostly use Garmin Mapsource and TOPO! jason Jason Poulter wrote: > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:11:44 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:11:44 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <200201130411.g0D4BSh290032@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> Jason Poulter wrote on 1/12/02 8:54 PM : >what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > Garmin 12xl >which gps software to you use the most? > MacGPS -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:13:24 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:13:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: <20020113041324.34218.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jason Poulter wrote: > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? Garmin eTrex Legend > which gps software to you use the most? National Geographic TOPO! M/S Streets and Trips > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:00:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: Garmin emap and ExpertGPS Ed Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason Poulter Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? which gps software to you use the most? jason Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:18:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! References: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: <001101c19be9$49893aa0$6501a8c0@Home> I use Garmin eTrex Vista, the SnapTek site to download CSV/TXT waypoint files and TOPO!. Jerry (aka cache-quest) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Poulter" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:22:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:22:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020112212200.021ff410@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 08:54 PM 1/12/2002 -0700, you wrote: >what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? Magellan 315. I am thinking about getting a Meridian Gold, but I have been very happy with the 315. >which gps software to you use the most? ExpertGPS. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:26:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:26:18 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <20020112.212619.-754677.5.peakbagger2@juno.com> Garmin eTrex Legend with TOPO! Jerry-Offtrail On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:00:46 -0700 "Ed Philpott" writes: > Garmin emap and ExpertGPS > > Ed > Trail Gypsy > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:32:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:32:02 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <140.7bc26d3.297267c3@aol.com> 'Team' n4/c uses a trusty, scratched-up Maggie 330. No mapping software is utilized, and the unit does not run the latest update, but seems reliable. It is just over one year old, and after many falls (some quite punishing, onto rock with my weight behind it), has proven to be pretty darned rugged! -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:32:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (dana reiff) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:32:53 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: GPR poll Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19BB0.B1864280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Garmin etrex Venture, that's all Dana ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19BB0.B1864280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C19BB0.B1864280-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 04:49:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:49:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <20020112.214927.-754677.6.peakbagger2@juno.com> That question sure pulled all the lurkers out of the woodwork, didn't it? :o) On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:32:02 EST Noesis4@aol.com writes: > 'Team' n4/c uses a trusty, scratched-up Maggie 330. No mapping > software is utilized, and the unit does not run the latest update, > but seems reliable. It is just over one year old, and after many > falls (some quite punishing, onto rock with my weight behind it), > has proven to be pretty darned rugged! > > -Mike- > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 05:23:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:23:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re. help with garmin files In-Reply-To: <20020113002335.6603.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I couldn't find the link earlier. Here's where you can learn more about GeoBuddy and download it: http://www.ericcloninger.com/geocaching/geobuddy/ Enjoy! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of David Hansen Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:24 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re. help with garmin files wyle you mentioned a conversion program called geobuddy but all my searches have come up empty any suggestions on where to look ? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 05:33:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:33:02 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <3C4104F7.1E892163@snaptek.com> Message-ID: We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin Street Pilot (For sale), and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and Topographical, and Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) Delorme Map 'N Go, Street Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy and USAPhotoMaps. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason Poulter Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? which gps software to you use the most? jason Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 18:49:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (David Hansen) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:49:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] re. gps poll Message-ID: <20020113184901.83305.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> I use a Garmin etrex Vista and easygps for software __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 19:49:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Ryan) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:49:30 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: It sure did: Garmin 3+ Mapsource w/ Topo Cody >From: Jerry Nelson >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:49:27 -0700 > > >That question sure pulled all the lurkers out of the woodwork, didn't it? >:o) > > > > >On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:32:02 EST Noesis4@aol.com writes: > > 'Team' n4/c uses a trusty, scratched-up Maggie 330. No mapping > > software is utilized, and the unit does not run the latest update, > > but seems reliable. It is just over one year old, and after many > > falls (some quite punishing, onto rock with my weight behind it), > > has proven to be pretty darned rugged! > > > > -Mike- > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Visit the Sierra Vista Elks Web Page at http://communities.msn.com/ElkShutterBug _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 20:00:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bill Burkett) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:00:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <200201131905.MAA24731@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020113125544.00cdd8e0@pop.mail.yahoo.com> One more lurker coming out! Love the list and everything you Snaptek guys do for us geocachers! We use a Garmin eMap with Garmin TOPO. At 12:05 1/13/02, you wrote: >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 20:54:31 -0700 >From: Jason Poulter >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > >which gps software to you use the most? > >jason >Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 20:09:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bill Burkett) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:09:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #191 - 18 msgs In-Reply-To: <200201131905.MAA24731@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020113130034.00cfb860@pop.mail.yahoo.com> At 12:05 1/13/02, you wrote: >From: "Larry Farquhar" >To: >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] re. help with garmin files >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:23:30 -0700 >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >I couldn't find the link earlier. Here's where you can learn more about >GeoBuddy and download it: http://www.ericcloninger.com/geocaching/geobuddy/ > >Enjoy! >Larry Farquhar >Team "Wyle E" >www.azjeeper.com Any tips on using GeoBuddy, Larry? Or, even better, where I can educate myself? I was planning a trip to Copperopolis and wanted to use the coordinates provided at < http://az-offroad.com/copper.html#Getting%20There >, but they needed translation to something my Garmin stuff could read. Did it manually (using the tools at < http://www.jeeep.com/details/coord/ >), but it sure was a pain. Sounds like GeoBuddy would help out with this, but I couldn't figure out what kind of input it needed. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 13 20:44:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:44:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #191 - 18 msgs Message-ID: We had plans to go to copperopolis and even went as far as making a route wit TOPO! and everything. We had a geocache in the back of the TJ ready to go also but we just ran out of time. If I can find the route we made I'll send it to you if you like. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- From: Bill Burkett Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #191 - 18 msgs Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:09:15 -0700 At 12:05 1/13/02, you wrote: >From: "Larry Farquhar" >To: >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] re. help with garmin files >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:23:30 -0700 >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > >I couldn't find the link earlier. Here's where you can learn more about >GeoBuddy and download it: http://www.ericcloninger.com/geocaching/geobuddy/ > >Enjoy! >Larry Farquhar >Team "Wyle E" >www.azjeeper.com Any tips on using GeoBuddy, Larry? Or, even better, where I can educate myself? I was planning a trip to Copperopolis and wanted to use the coordinates provided at < http://az-offroad.com/copper.html#Getting%20There >, but they needed translation to something my Garmin stuff could read. Did it manually (using the tools at < http://www.jeeep.com/details/coord/ >), but it sure was a pain. Sounds like GeoBuddy would help out with this, but I couldn't figure out what kind of input it needed. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 00:21:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 16:21:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020114002151.14619.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Larry, Repeat after me, "My name is Larry and I'm a gadgetaholic." Bob --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin > Street Pilot (For sale), > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and > Topographical, and > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) > Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy > and USAPhotoMaps. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On > Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 00:41:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:41:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020113125544.00cdd8e0@pop.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > One more lurker coming out! Love the list and everything you Snaptek guys > do for us geocachers! Well, if there is anything you think we might be able to do just let us know. Be if converting waypoints into a different format or some other stat. Chances are if you would like to see it someone else would too. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 00:35:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:35:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <20020114002151.14619.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Dr. Bob! If it wasn't for toys, what's the use working? Who was it that said "He who dies with the most toys wins?" Never mind - I'm not competitive. :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Bob Renner Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:22 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Larry, Repeat after me, "My name is Larry and I'm a gadgetaholic." Bob --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin > Street Pilot (For sale), > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and > Topographical, and > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) > Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy > and USAPhotoMaps. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On > Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 01:00:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:00:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020114010010.37647.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> He who dies with the most toys, still dies! Bob --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > Hey Dr. Bob! > > If it wasn't for toys, what's the use working? Who > was it that said "He who > dies with the most toys wins?" Never mind - I'm not > competitive. :-) > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On > Behalf Of Bob Renner > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:22 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > Larry, > > Repeat after me, > "My name is Larry and I'm a gadgetaholic." > > Bob > > --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin > > Street Pilot (For sale), > > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, > and > > Topographical, and > > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) > > Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use > GeoBuddy > > and USAPhotoMaps. > > > > Larry Farquhar > > Team "Wyle E" > > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On > > Behalf Of Jason > > Poulter > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and > use? > > > > which gps software to you use the most? > > > > jason > > Team Snaptek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 19:32:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Nicol) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:32:21 -0800 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Our Adventurous Weekend! Message-ID: Howdy fellow Geocachers! Wanted to share our first big day of Geocaching with yall! Intro: I found out about geocaches just a couple of weeks ago on the Garmin.com web site. I had just recently purchased my 3rd GPS unit... a Garmin Etrex Legend. Nice little GPS that is great for hiking and stuff like Geocaching. Well, saw the link to geocaching.com and was pretty muched hook just by checking out the web site. Well, me and my friend Brent went out after our first geocache a couple of weeks ago... it was the Junk Drawer Junkie cache out near Tortilla Flats area. We were a very close 2nd to the cache. As I walked up the ridge there was the Wyle E team searching for that cache. Met them. Very nice folks. Glad to have had the opportunity to meet them! What a cool 'yellow jeep' that is! :) Signed the log book and closed the book on our first geocache. Brent was a little worn out and kinda kicked back over the ridge and didnt get to see this first cache. But, he would this past weekend! During the course of that week I alone went for a few urban caches near my home in Mesa and got 2 one day and one the next. Makeout Mnt, Cable Girls Toy Box and Cheaprock. On to our first big adventurous day of geocaching....... This past Satuday me and Brent headed out early to go after the Mt Ord cache... ORDinary Cache. It has been posted since Dec. 24th and no one has gone after it. So, thought we would try and be the first and get our first 1st log in. I had watched the cache since early that week when I first saw it on the web site and just hoped no one would get it before we had the chance to get out Saturday morning. We headed out right about sunrise from Mesa and hit the road for Mt. Ord. I have never been on top of Mt Ord (Or 4 peaks either) and always wanted to. We have driven by it many, many times and never went up there. Geocaching gave us an excuse to do it! The road up was a nice drive. Rather steep, but, not too steep and not to bumpy either. A nice forest route all in all. We went from high desert to pine trees and about 30 minutes of driving or so. Up on top at the parking lot... we hiked out into the pine covered woods in search of our first first find. I got within about 30 feet according to my GPS and Brent started searching while I walked and tried to '0' in on the exact spot. Brent jumped up and yelled "LOOK, I FOUND IT!" He was pretty stoked to have found his first cache box! There it was. My GPS got me to within a couple feet of it when I walked over there! Well, opened the log and we were first!!!!!!!! YEHAW! No yellow jeep waiting in the parking lot when we arrived this time either! :) LOL Signed the log book and took the christmas bulldog doll and left the Sable the Tiger doll I got from the Cable Girls Toy Box cache. The tiger is now on top of Mt. Ord if anyone wants to give him a new home! The bulldog must have been pretty lonely up there all these weeks! We then had an awsome hike of about 1 miles to the summit of Mt. Ord where all the towers and ranger lookout are located. What a spectacular view! We could see the entire Tonto Basin and valley area below to the east and Roosevelt lake. We could see the small community of Sunflower below to the SW and beyond we saw the Fountain on at Fountain Hills. Very clear day. The entire metro PHX area was visible. Looked out across the Mazatzal Divide and eyed 4 peaks and thought about the cache up there- Lone Pine. How cool it would be to conquere the two high peaks along the Mazatzal range (actually, I beleive Mazatzal Peak is the highest?). After staring in amazement at the view we made the 1 mile or so hike back down the mountain to the parking lot and headed off the mountain. We hiked about 2.5 miles during the stay up there. We headed down around 11:00am or so. Along the way back south on Hwy. 87, we seeked out the Dead Car Cache. Drove within 1 kilometer of it and hiked on in. Quick, Easy find and a fun little hike. Put on another 1.2 miles of hiking here. Left the christmas bulldog and took the little green matchbox truck. Now we headed to 4 peaks road and seeked out the first cache there, 4 peaks road #1. There is another one close to the highway, figured we get that on the way out. Never did though. We did get the 4 Pk #1 cache though. We took the little world globe ball and left the truck! I figured the world globe ball would be a 'symbol' of sorts to put in the Lone Pine cache.... at the top of the world! We were only a mere 20 minutes behind Offtrail, who had logged in at the 4 Peaks #1 just prior to our arrival there and was seeking out a new cache stash that day. Turned out he placed a cache (or the start of one or something) near were the Dead Car Cache is or somewhere in that general area. Bummer! Could have went after that one! Now around 1:30pm, we headed for Lone Pine. First time on that road. We were using my 2x4 1974 GMC pickup. It could pretty much handle 4 peaks road, no problem. One problem though.. this engine can run hot if it isnt moving! I dont have a radiator shroud and the fan is a tad bit too far from the radiator (hey, its not easy stickin' a Olds 455 in a pickup truck!). But, it never is a problem. usually runs very very cool. Well, about 5 miles or so from the top.. the roadway gets VERY VERY ROUGH. All rocks. Kinda like driving in a small riverbottom of rock and climbing on a very steep incline. The truck handled it no problem but due to the slow driving... the engine started heating up. No problem. We stopped and waited for it to cool (does so very quickly). But, another problem... a started wire cought fire!!!! Quickly took care of that and re-manufactured the wire and taped it up and the engine cooled and we were on our way to the top of 4 peaks! The rest of the way was great. No temp problems and we reached the top at about 4:30pm. We hiked to the cache and quickly found it. Left the world globe ball and took the owl doll (I must really like animal cache finds!) We have always hike the Browns Peak trail... but daylight was going away quickly and we started down. Went down the backside as it is MUCH less bumpy and much quicker. Took only about 30 minutes to get off the mountain and down to Hwy 188 and Punkin Center area. We headed back around to Hwy. 87 and headed home. It was now dark. We hit up the ParkandCache Cache on the way home in north Mesa. I went to that one last week during the week and found way to many people to not be seen. Too close to the road as well. So, figured it would be best seeked out at night! We went in and quickly found it. Actually, walked past it the first time! Pretty good job of hiding a cache! Left the owl doll and took the pig doll! The pig is now in my posession and awaiting a new home! What an adventurous day! 5 caches found! Our personal record! We now have 9 caches found to start our new hobby! We are both hooked! I have a few other friends that enjoy the outdoors that want to come out with us... Team Ropingthewind. Look forward to showing them this fun new sport. It is a great way to see Arizona and to go places I probably otherwise would never go. Thanks for letting me share our first big day of geocaching! Scott N. Team Ropingthewind Here is my home page on the web.. has nothing to do with geocaches.. but this is my other hobby (I also do it for a living!) and another great way to explore Arizona!) I might have to add a geocache page to it in the near future! Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 19:47:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:47:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Massacre Grounds Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D0F@srp.gov> I did Massacre Grounds yesterday. I now fully understand Wyle E's log about following the pink ribbons. So funny! Fortunately I hike with my GPS on. I guess the moral to the story is to follow your GPS and not pink ribbons! -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 19:50:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:50:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Our Adventurous Weekend! Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D10@srp.gov> Scott, I looked at your webpage. Perhaps you could use your balloon to place some caches in some places that are very difficult to reach. Until several people conquered Bronco Butte several weeks ago, they may have wanted your help. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 23:03:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:03:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Archived cache Message-ID: <20020114230321.20614.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> >From the cache count for AZ on geocaching.com it looks like another cache has been archived sometime within the past day. Does anyone know what cache that might be? Bob ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 00:31:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:31:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New feature Message-ID: <000c01c19d5c$054a6c00$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> If you go to the team stats page and look in the navigation bar on the bottom there is a new link called "progress graph" What it will show you is a pretty little line graph with everyone that you are looking at on the team stats and their number of caches found over time. Basicly it will show you at a glace the comparitive rates of cache finds. The line graph is accurate to the day. The people in the top 25 can be a little hard to read... hopefully it's not too hard for anyone to pick themselves out Enjoy... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 01:11:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New feature References: <000c01c19d5c$054a6c00$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> Message-ID: <000801c19d61$84252560$6501a8c0@Home> Cool, but I'm having trouble figuring out which one is Wyle E. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Cluff" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:31 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New feature > If you go to the team stats page and look in the navigation bar on the > bottom there is a new link called "progress graph" What it will show you is > a pretty little line graph with everyone that you are looking at on the team > stats and their number of caches found over time. Basicly it will show you > at a glace the comparitive rates of cache finds. The line graph is accurate > to the day. > > The people in the top 25 can be a little hard to read... hopefully it's not > too hard for anyone to pick themselves out > > Enjoy... > Brian Cluff > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 01:18:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:18:53 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache Message-ID: <3C43837C.FA5484C7@primenet.com> I archived Mad World. Too much time spent responding to the minority of people who criticized it. Too much of a hassle for me. The cache and the contents will show up as another cache somewhere else. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 01:51:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:51:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Saguaro Vista Cache Message-ID: <3C438B23.4CD77B59@primenet.com> I've looked at the topo map for accessing the Saguaro Vista Cache. I see 4 possibilities: 1. Reach it by boat (like the people who placed it) 2. Long long long hike from somewhere 3. Swim across the Salt River and have a short hike (not sure how much water is in the river below the dam at this time of year) 4. Cross at the dam and have a short hike. (closed to public but possible for someone with SRP) This is where I have an advantage over you. I can get across that dam for a short and easy hike. (I assume that there's a bridge or way across either on top of or inside the dam.) I need to check out the particulars for crossing at the dam. When I go to do this cache, I'll leave word on this listserv for the time and place (probably a nearby turnout or parking area) if anyone else wants the easy way to this cache. Once crossing at the dam, it appears to be a relatively flat topology to go the half mile or so to the cache. Of course, I could be totally wrong and there could be some sort of natural or man-made barrier to getting to the cache this way. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 02:22:08 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:22:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Saguaro Vista Cache In-Reply-To: <3C438B23.4CD77B59@primenet.com> Message-ID: <20020115022208.37936.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> I don't think you are allowed on the dam itself. Especially in the aftermath of 9-11. Here's the address of 2 web sites that have pictures of the dam. http://www.srpnet.com/water/lakes/stewartmountaindam.asp http://www.nicholson-rodio.com/projects/StewartMtn.pdf There is no bridge crossing the river at the dam. The closest one is Blue Point Bridge. You could cross there and hike upstream, but I think there is a sheer wall cliff between the dam and the bridge on the south side. Here's the address of a web site that gives the flow rates of all the streams in AZ. http://az.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/current?type=flow Look for a line after SALT RIVER that starts as follows: 09502000 SALT R BL STEWART MOUNTAIN D ARIZ It has the flow for that section of the Salt River. It's currently at over 300 cfs (cubic feet per second) which is a moderate flow. The water is probably rather cold. Good luck. Bob --- Stephen Drake wrote: > I've looked at the topo map for accessing the > Saguaro Vista Cache. I > see 4 possibilities: > > 1. Reach it by boat (like the people who placed it) > 2. Long long long hike from somewhere > 3. Swim across the Salt River and have a short hike > (not sure how much > water is in the river below the dam at this time of > year) > 4. Cross at the dam and have a short hike. (closed > to public but > possible for someone with SRP) > > This is where I have an advantage over you. I can > get across that dam > for a short and easy hike. (I assume that there's a > bridge or way > across either on top of or inside the dam.) > > I need to check out the particulars for crossing at > the dam. When I go > to do this cache, I'll leave word on this listserv > for the time and > place (probably a nearby turnout or parking area) if > anyone else wants > the easy way to this cache. > > Once crossing at the dam, it appears to be a > relatively flat topology to > go the half mile or so to the cache. Of course, I > could be totally > wrong and there could be some sort of natural or > man-made barrier to > getting to the cache this way. > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 02:42:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:42:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Saguaro Vista Cache Message-ID: <3C439716.3DBC1969@primenet.com> I work for SRP. I can get across that dam without any problem. I know people who work in the hydro area. If there's not a bridge of some sort on top of the dam, there's a walkway within the dam itself. There has to be a way to the other side of the dam for maintenance reasons. The only thing that could get in the way would be if there's a fence on the other side or there's something in the topology in the short walk to the cache. I've never visited that dam. Time to take a visit. Concerning 9-11, that will probably restrict non-SRP people coming with me. I can ask tomorrow. It made me think of Bronco Butte. I looked at that cache and immediately knew I had my "helicopter." -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 03:54:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jeff Moriarty) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:54:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache References: <3C43837C.FA5484C7@primenet.com> Message-ID: <000a01c19d78$57956750$0201a8c0@KONG> Aw, crud. I liked the idea. We were doing a clue or two a weekend as we were driving about town and were about halfway done. Can I log half a find on it? j. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache > I archived Mad World. Too much time spent responding to the minority of > people who criticized it. Too much of a hassle for me. The cache and > the contents will show up as another cache somewhere else. > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 04:18:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:18:18 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache Message-ID: <20020114.211819.-660311.3.peakbagger2@juno.com> Here's an easy solution. Ignore the criticizers. Offtrail On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:54:27 -0700 "Jeff Moriarty" writes: > Aw, crud. I liked the idea. We were doing a clue or two a weekend > as we > were driving about town and were about halfway done. Can I log half > a find > on it? > > j. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Drake" > To: "Geocaching Listserv" > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:18 PM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache > > > > I archived Mad World. Too much time spent responding to the > minority of > > people who criticized it. Too much of a hassle for me. The cache > and > > the contents will show up as another cache somewhere else. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 04:51:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:51:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache Message-ID: <3C43B555.BB7AB59A@primenet.com> It's not that easy. I get emails from people telling me that such and such a clue is missing. Can I check it for them? Then I get emails from people who have driven 200+ miles looking for the next clue and let me know their frustration and it's my fault. I get complaining emails from people who say it's not fair for those not living in the southeast valley. Then people say the very short and level-terrain walk is too difficult and I misled them in the description. Then people find other reasons to complain. Then people trash the cache in detail in their log without having the respect to email me directly with their concerns. The Mad World cache according to some who look for it is a mean and cruel experiment. People are expecting me to run around maintaining it on a daily basis. Some people can't understand that I gave it a 5 rating for difficulty so therefore it's supposed to be hard. I will not place any more multi-caches. There are too many people who don't want to think and want every cache they do to be a quick one to find with minimal effort. To expect someone to actually think and spend some time figuring it out is a foreign idea to some. I was getting criticism for it before even I placed the first clue (thanks Libby). >From now on I'll place caches that I can basically forget about after placing them. Anyway, I've been told that the clues are starting to rub off or fade and I know the cache was in a place that has a moderate risk to disappear. The clues and cache need some work to make it more permanent. And I want the ammo box to place a new cache this weekend in the Superstitions to commemorate my 100th cache find. (I'm at 99 now.) >Here's an easy solution. Ignore the criticizers. > >Offtrail From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 07:51:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 00:51:03 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] data export Message-ID: <3C43DF67.5BE4C47C@snaptek.com> finished with the team data export for easy and expert gps now avail on the individual team page... have at it!! jason From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 14 14:06:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 07:06:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Massacre Grounds Message-ID: <3C42E5C8.62E8D19E@primenet.com> I did Massacre Grounds yesterday. Now I see how Wyle E's log is so funny. It cracks me up. I was tempted to follow the pink ribbons, but I hike with my GPS on. Something didn't fit and I decided to go bushwacking. Moral to the story: Follow your GPS, not pink ribbons! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 16:48:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:48:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! References: <20020112.212619.-754677.5.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <003401c19de4$824133a0$78207418@Pradley> I have a Garmin 3 (our Jeep Posse standard, for now) and no software. I also utilize maps (the paper kind) and innate sense of direction.....:-) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > Garmin eTrex Legend with TOPO! > > Jerry-Offtrail > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:00:46 -0700 "Ed Philpott" > writes: > > Garmin emap and ExpertGPS > > > > Ed > > Trail Gypsy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason > > Poulter > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > > > which gps software to you use the most? > > > > jason > > Team Snaptek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 16:55:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! References: Message-ID: <005501c19de5$7e24d820$78207418@Pradley> Geez, no wonder you have so many finds! "Techno-cheating!!" (ha ha ha). Compared to some of us poor slobs with an older GPS and paper maps....we don't have a chance! :-) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin Street Pilot (For sale), > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and Topographical, and > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy and USAPhotoMaps. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 17:17:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:17:00 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Message-ID: <68.19d5862c.2975be0c@aol.com> "Delorme AZ 3D Topo" sounds interesting... is this a commonly available program (say, at Popular or REI)? I'm certain I'd enjoy this sort of map program even if I WASN'T geocaching... -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 17:09:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:09:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! References: Message-ID: <001901c19de7$5c495300$78207418@Pradley> Hmmm....what do you, Larry, if ya can't take 'em with ya!!? :-) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > Hey Dr. Bob! > > If it wasn't for toys, what's the use working? Who was it that said "He who > dies with the most toys wins?" Never mind - I'm not competitive. :-) > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Bob Renner > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:22 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > Larry, > > Repeat after me, > "My name is Larry and I'm a gadgetaholic." > > Bob > > --- Larry Farquhar wrote: > > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin > > Street Pilot (For sale), > > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and > > Topographical, and > > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) > > Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy > > and USAPhotoMaps. > > > > Larry Farquhar > > Team "Wyle E" > > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On > > Behalf Of Jason > > Poulter > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > > > which gps software to you use the most? > > > > jason > > Team Snaptek > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 17:17:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:17:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Our Adventurous Weekend! References: Message-ID: <004a01c19de8$916e8f40$78207418@Pradley> Welcome Scott, and thanks for sharing your adventures! ((Not only is Larry "Wyle E" the first to many caches, now he is the first to meet some new cachers!! Geez!! (hee hee hee) ~~trisha "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Nicol" To: Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:32 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Our Adventurous Weekend! > Howdy fellow Geocachers! > > Wanted to share our first big day of Geocaching with yall! > > Intro: > > I found out about geocaches just a couple of weeks ago on the Garmin.com web > site. I had just recently purchased my 3rd GPS unit... a Garmin Etrex > Legend. Nice little GPS that is great for hiking and stuff like Geocaching. > Well, saw the link to geocaching.com and was pretty muched hook just by > checking out the web site. > > Well, me and my friend Brent went out after our first geocache a couple of > weeks ago... it was the Junk Drawer Junkie cache out near Tortilla Flats > area. We were a very close 2nd to the cache. As I walked up the ridge there > was the Wyle E team searching for that cache. Met them. Very nice folks. > Glad to have had the opportunity to meet them! What a cool 'yellow jeep' > that is! :) Signed the log book and closed the book on our first geocache. > Brent was a little worn out and kinda kicked back over the ridge and didnt > get to see this first cache. But, he would this past weekend! During the > course of that week I alone went for a few urban caches near my home in Mesa > and got 2 one day and one the next. Makeout Mnt, Cable Girls Toy Box and > Cheaprock. > > On to our first big adventurous day of geocaching....... > > This past Satuday me and Brent headed out early to go after the Mt Ord > cache... ORDinary Cache. It has been posted since Dec. 24th and no one has > gone after it. So, thought we would try and be the first and get our first > 1st log in. I had watched the cache since early that week when I first saw > it on the web site and just hoped no one would get it before we had the > chance to get out Saturday morning. We headed out right about sunrise from > Mesa and hit the road for Mt. Ord. I have never been on top of Mt Ord (Or 4 > peaks either) and always wanted to. We have driven by it many, many times > and never went up there. Geocaching gave us an excuse to do it! > > The road up was a nice drive. Rather steep, but, not too steep and not to > bumpy either. A nice forest route all in all. We went from high desert to > pine trees and about 30 minutes of driving or so. Up on top at the parking > lot... we hiked out into the pine covered woods in search of our first first > find. I got within about 30 feet according to my GPS and Brent started > searching while I walked and tried to '0' in on the exact spot. Brent jumped > up and yelled "LOOK, I FOUND IT!" He was pretty stoked to have found his > first cache box! There it was. My GPS got me to within a couple feet of it > when I walked over there! Well, opened the log and we were first!!!!!!!! > YEHAW! No yellow jeep waiting in the parking lot when we arrived this time > either! :) LOL Signed the log book and took the christmas bulldog doll and > left the Sable the Tiger doll I got from the Cable Girls Toy Box cache. The > tiger is now on top of Mt. Ord if anyone wants to give him a new home! The > bulldog must have been pretty lonely up there all these weeks! We then had > an awsome hike of about 1 miles to the summit of Mt. Ord where all the > towers and ranger lookout are located. What a spectacular view! We could see > the entire Tonto Basin and valley area below to the east and Roosevelt lake. > We could see the small community of Sunflower below to the SW and beyond we > saw the Fountain on at Fountain Hills. Very clear day. The entire metro PHX > area was visible. Looked out across the Mazatzal Divide and eyed 4 peaks and > thought about the cache up there- Lone Pine. How cool it would be to > conquere the two high peaks along the Mazatzal range (actually, I beleive > Mazatzal Peak is the highest?). After staring in amazement at the view we > made the 1 mile or so hike back down the mountain to the parking lot and > headed off the mountain. We hiked about 2.5 miles during the stay up there. > We headed down around 11:00am or so. > > Along the way back south on Hwy. 87, we seeked out the Dead Car Cache. Drove > within 1 kilometer of it and hiked on in. Quick, Easy find and a fun little > hike. Put on another 1.2 miles of hiking here. Left the christmas bulldog > and took the little green matchbox truck. Now we headed to 4 peaks road and > seeked out the first cache there, 4 peaks road #1. There is another one > close to the highway, figured we get that on the way out. Never did though. > We did get the 4 Pk #1 cache though. We took the little world globe ball and > left the truck! I figured the world globe ball would be a 'symbol' of sorts > to put in the Lone Pine cache.... at the top of the world! We were only a > mere 20 minutes behind Offtrail, who had logged in at the 4 Peaks #1 just > prior to our arrival there and was seeking out a new cache stash that day. > Turned out he placed a cache (or the start of one or something) near were > the Dead Car Cache is or somewhere in that general area. Bummer! Could have > went after that one! Now around 1:30pm, we headed for Lone Pine. First time > on that road. We were using my 2x4 1974 GMC pickup. It could pretty much > handle 4 peaks road, no problem. One problem though.. this engine can run > hot if it isnt moving! I dont have a radiator shroud and the fan is a tad > bit too far from the radiator (hey, its not easy stickin' a Olds 455 in a > pickup truck!). But, it never is a problem. usually runs very very cool. > Well, about 5 miles or so from the top.. the roadway gets VERY VERY ROUGH. > All rocks. Kinda like driving in a small riverbottom of rock and climbing on > a very steep incline. The truck handled it no problem but due to the slow > driving... the engine started heating up. No problem. We stopped and waited > for it to cool (does so very quickly). But, another problem... a started > wire cought fire!!!! Quickly took care of that and re-manufactured the wire > and taped it up and the engine cooled and we were on our way to the top of 4 > peaks! The rest of the way was great. No temp problems and we reached the > top at about 4:30pm. We hiked to the cache and quickly found it. Left the > world globe ball and took the owl doll (I must really like animal cache > finds!) We have always hike the Browns Peak trail... but daylight was going > away quickly and we started down. Went down the backside as it is MUCH less > bumpy and much quicker. Took only about 30 minutes to get off the mountain > and down to Hwy 188 and Punkin Center area. We headed back around to Hwy. 87 > and headed home. > > It was now dark. We hit up the ParkandCache Cache on the way home in north > Mesa. I went to that one last week during the week and found way to many > people to not be seen. Too close to the road as well. So, figured it would > be best seeked out at night! We went in and quickly found it. Actually, > walked past it the first time! Pretty good job of hiding a cache! Left the > owl doll and took the pig doll! The pig is now in my posession and awaiting > a new home! > > What an adventurous day! 5 caches found! Our personal record! We now have 9 > caches found to start our new hobby! We are both hooked! I have a few other > friends that enjoy the outdoors that want to come out with us... Team > Ropingthewind. > > Look forward to showing them this fun new sport. It is a great way to see > Arizona and to go places I probably otherwise would never go. > > Thanks for letting me share our first big day of geocaching! > > Scott N. > Team Ropingthewind > > Here is my home page on the web.. has nothing to do with geocaches.. but > this is my other hobby (I also do it for a living!) and another great way to > explore Arizona!) I might have to add a geocache page to it in the near > future! > > Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/safwp > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 17:55:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:55:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec References: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> Message-ID: <013f01c19ded$e4a65300$78207418@Pradley> Hi all, Was wondering if you saw the big search for those 2 boys up by Flag. It was on all the news channels. They were found alive and well after 3 days and 2 very frigid nights, which is a miracle....prayers were answered. They had no provisions and only light clothing. I was part of the team of searchers working to find them, this time in the command vehicle running the radio and radio log all night (6p to 6a) Sun/Mon. (On big searches like this, we usually run 12 hour shifts) The rest of our Posse also was up there along with ground searchers, horses, ATV's, search dogs and 4x4's from 6 counties, plus helos and even US customs Blackhawk (we needed the FLIR..infra red). It was interesting to be in the command vehicle and have various groups reporting back their positions (and positions of tracks found) in Lat/Long, UTM, and even township.range.section, and quite a challenge to plot positions on the maps. Geocaching is sure fun, but thank God we have this technology to assist in this type of life and death situation..... ~~trisha "Lightning" ~~Yavapai Co Jeep Posse From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 19:31:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:31:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Flash cards Message-ID: <20020115193105.17371.qmail@web13107.mail.yahoo.com> This doesn't have anything to do with Geocaching but since many of us are gadget junkies I figured I'd pass it along. CompactFlash Association issues warning concerning risk of irradiation damage through US Mail http://www.compactflash.org/pr/020107b.pdf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 21:38:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Nicol) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:38:42 -0800 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] EasyGPS question Message-ID: First off, Thanks to the folks at the geocaching.snaptek.com for taking the time to create a downloadable file for the individual team data for use with EasyGPS. I have EasyGPS and Waypoint and like the EasyGPS best. However, I havent been able to find a way to drop all of the AZ caches into my GPS in one shot. Now, we can! Thanks! Now to my question: When I do download this data to my EasyGPS program, the symbol shown is for a basic waypoint. A dot. The GPS I use when geocaching is a Garmin Etrex Legend. It has a symbol for a geocache and a geocache found. Looks like a treasure chest and a treasure chest opened. I think all the newer Garmins might have this symbol to represent a geocache. The EasyGPS shows each cache as a waypoint dot. Is there a way I can change the symbol while the data is still in the EasyGPS program? Otherwise, I have to go thru everyone one of them (or each one as I put them into my GPS) and change the symbol and that is rather time consuming! I have been around the EasyGPS a bit and cant really see that this can be done. But, maybe I am missing something! I know that when I upload caches from my GPS to my EasyGPS program.. they show us as geocache symbols in the EasyGPS program. But, cant figure out how to do so the other way around. Thanks! Scott Team Ropingthewind arizcowboy@hotmail.com Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 21:34:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:34:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec References: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> <013f01c19ded$e4a65300$78207418@Pradley> Message-ID: <001c01c19e0c$5f182aa0$6501a8c0@Home> Trisha: It must have been very rewarding to be involved in the effort. I was very thankful that the boys were ok. I haven't heard any details on the news. How far had the boys gone and what did they do for shelter at night? Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trisha Radley" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec > Hi all, > Was wondering if you saw the big search for those 2 boys up by Flag. It was > on all the news channels. They were found alive and well after 3 days and 2 > very frigid nights, which is a miracle....prayers were answered. They had no > provisions and only light clothing. I was part of the team of searchers > working to find them, this time in the command vehicle running the radio and > radio log all night (6p to 6a) Sun/Mon. (On big searches like this, we > usually run 12 hour shifts) The rest of our Posse also was up there along > with ground searchers, horses, ATV's, search dogs and 4x4's from 6 counties, > plus helos and even US customs Blackhawk (we needed the FLIR..infra red). > It was interesting to be in the command vehicle and have various groups > reporting back their positions (and positions of tracks found) in Lat/Long, > UTM, and even township.range.section, and quite a challenge to plot > positions on the maps. > Geocaching is sure fun, but thank God we have this technology to assist in > this type of life and death situation..... > ~~trisha "Lightning" ~~Yavapai Co Jeep Posse > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 22:20:57 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Tim Giron) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:20:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] EasyGPS question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020115222057.31741.qmail@web14107.mail.yahoo.com> The file is XML. The stanzas probably could be changed to whatever tag EasyGPS understands as "geocache". As I don't have EasyGPS, my suggestion would be to export from EasyGPS and check the resulting file. The XML .loc file can be edited with any text editor before importing it into EasyGPS. Tim --- Scott Nicol wrote: > Now to my question: When I do download this data to > my EasyGPS program, the > symbol shown is for a basic waypoint. A dot. The GPS > I use when geocaching > is a Garmin Etrex Legend. It has a symbol for a > geocache and a geocache > found. Looks like a treasure chest and a treasure > chest opened. I think all > the newer Garmins might have this symbol to > represent a geocache. The > EasyGPS shows each cache as a waypoint dot. Is there > a way I can change the > symbol while the data is still in the EasyGPS > program? Otherwise, I have to > go thru everyone one of them (or each one as I put > them into my GPS) and > change the symbol and that is rather time consuming! > I have been around the > EasyGPS a bit and cant really see that this can be > done. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 15 22:41:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] EasyGPS question References: Message-ID: <3C44B012.D9FA4A87@snaptek.com> i asked the author easygps if there was a way to change the icons ... he said not yet... with the newer version of there software it will be able to with a newer data import format... so once that is available i will put that feature into the data exports to show your found and not found cache icons... i do this allready with the garmin file... and tried to with the easy gps but it just aint possible yet... hopefully soon!!! jason Scott Nicol wrote: > > First off, > > Thanks to the folks at the geocaching.snaptek.com for taking the time to > create a downloadable file for the individual team data for use with > EasyGPS. I have EasyGPS and Waypoint and like the EasyGPS best. However, I > havent been able to find a way to drop all of the AZ caches into my GPS in > one shot. Now, we can! Thanks! > > Now to my question: When I do download this data to my EasyGPS program, the > symbol shown is for a basic waypoint. A dot. The GPS I use when geocaching > is a Garmin Etrex Legend. It has a symbol for a geocache and a geocache > found. Looks like a treasure chest and a treasure chest opened. I think all > the newer Garmins might have this symbol to represent a geocache. The > EasyGPS shows each cache as a waypoint dot. Is there a way I can change the > symbol while the data is still in the EasyGPS program? Otherwise, I have to > go thru everyone one of them (or each one as I put them into my GPS) and > change the symbol and that is rather time consuming! I have been around the > EasyGPS a bit and cant really see that this can be done. > > But, maybe I am missing something! > > I know that when I upload caches from my GPS to my EasyGPS program.. they > show us as geocache symbols in the EasyGPS program. But, cant figure out how > to do so the other way around. > > Thanks! > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > arizcowboy@hotmail.com > > Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/safwp > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 00:41:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:41:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! In-Reply-To: <005501c19de5$7e24d820$78207418@Pradley> Message-ID: I try to utilize the 6 P's: Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Trisha Radley Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:56 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! Geez, no wonder you have so many finds! "Techno-cheating!!" (ha ha ha). Compared to some of us poor slobs with an older GPS and paper maps....we don't have a chance! :-) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Farquhar" To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > We have a Garmin GPS V, a Garmin Etrex, a Garmin Street Pilot (For sale), > and a Delorme TripMate (used with a laptop). > > We use Garmin MapSource MetroGuide, City Select, and Topographical, and > Delorme AZ 3D Topo. Also have (but don't use much) Delorme Map 'N Go, Street > Atlas, USA Topo, and Ozi Explorer. Also use GeoBuddy and USAPhotoMaps. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jason > Poulter > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:55 PM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] GPS Poll!!! > > > what gps brand and model does everyone have and use? > > which gps software to you use the most? > > jason > Team Snaptek > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 01:13:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:13:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Section Message-ID: <3C44D3AC.6AECFB6B@snaptek.com> i put up a new section on the side menu bar title "In The News" there is a video link of the news storie fox 10 did with renner last year... finally go around to getting it done... if anyone else has articles or links or something to do with az geocaching in the news send it this way so we can add it!! jason From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 01:33:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:33:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache karma Message-ID: Hey N4/C, Think we can get Team Puzzel or Wolfb8 to share any of their extra karma. I'm always in the need for extra karma or so I'm told. Ed Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 02:08:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:08:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Section Message-ID: <20020115.190812.-822541.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> Just checked out the video. You Snaptek guys sure keep putting up interesting stuff. This TV spot was obviously made well before I got involved but I'd heard about it. Bob, I guess you made it to "that one by Canyon Lake" after all: Jerry-Offtrail On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:13:16 -0700 Jason Poulter writes: > i put up a new section on the side menu bar title "In The News" > there is a video link of the news storie fox 10 did with renner > last > year... finally go around to getting it done... > > if anyone else has articles or links or something to do with az > geocaching in the news send it this way so we can add it!! > > jason > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 02:57:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:57:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache reincarnation Message-ID: <20020116025707.27622.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Dobre, Did your Sparky's Stash (GC369) get reincarnated? It's not archived any more, and it's showing up on the list of Arizona caches. Did you replace it or did someone at geocaching.com make a mistake? Bob ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 03:28:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:28:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Sparky's Stash (Bob) Message-ID: <3C44F36E.DE50D1FE@primenet.com> Bob, I noticed the same thing. I emailed Dobre but haven't received a response yet. (For the past few days my email seems to have a 24 hour lag for incoming, so perhaps I'll learn something tomorrow.) I was the last person to log an unsuccessful log on Sparky's Stash, making me the 3rd in a row. He archived it within a few hours after I made my unsuccessful log. I since deleted my unsuccessful log since it was archived and I assumed it wasn't my fault for not finding it. Because Dobre hasn't put a note or changed the description, it does look like a geocaching.com mistake of unarchiving a cache. But, because he archived it so quickly after my unsuccessful log (3rd in a row), I suspect that it's possible he assumed it missing and within the last few days finally got around to checking it and found the cache still there. Tomorrow at lunch I'll make an attempt to look for the cache if we hear nothing new from Dobre. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 03:32:41 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco Butte Jr.????? Message-ID: <3C44F459.CD49DED9@primenet.com> I learned today that in early March I'll be taking a ride on a helicopter for work. I'm not sure of the itinerary, but I know there will be a stop in the Superstitions. I will take a cache with me with the hopes of being able to place it somewhere difficult to get to. The nature of the trip is top secret. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 04:08:24 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:08:24 EST Subject: Fwd: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco Butte Jr.????? Message-ID: <154.758de94.297656b9@aol.com> ------_Part_3c44fcb8-03a5-1644-010203040506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go ahead... Give it your best shot! (Laughs maniacally, eyelid twiches, as he studies his map of the Superstitions...) :) n4/c, foolish butte-headed hiker ------_Part_3c44fcb8-03a5-1644-010203040506 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (rly-xb03.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.104]) by air-xb04.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINXB46-0115223712; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:37:12 -0500 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (cpe-24-221-56-185.az.sprintbbd.net [24.221.56.185]) by rly-xb03.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXB31-0115223704; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:37:04 -0500 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32569; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:00:14 -0700 Received: from smtp10.phx.gblx.net (smtp10.phx.gblx.net [64.211.219.59]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA32551 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:57:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp10.phx.gblx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA62014 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:34:15 -0700 Received: from dialup-64.154.141.177.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net(64.154.141.177), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp10.phx.gblx.net, id smtpdLN82aa; Tue Jan 15 20:33:41 2002 Message-ID: <3C44F459.CD49DED9@primenet.com> From: Stephen Drake X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geocaching Listserv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bronco Butte Jr.????? Sender: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com Errors-To: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com X-BeenThere: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List for discussing Geocaching in Arizona List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:32:41 -0700 I learned today that in early March I'll be taking a ride on a helicopter for work. I'm not sure of the itinerary, but I know there will be a stop in the Superstitions. I will take a cache with me with the hopes of being able to place it somewhere difficult to get to. The nature of the trip is top secret. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ------_Part_3c44fcb8-03a5-1644-010203040506-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 04:13:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:13:54 EST Subject: Fwd: [Az-Geocaching] Cache karma Message-ID: <23.17a95100.29765802@aol.com> ------_Part_3c44fe02-02f2-5a39-010203040506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually Ed, your post reminds me that I wanted to appeal to Libby to adopt her 'It's a Mushroom' cache. So Libby - if you're out there and still considering archiving your caches due to time constraints, please consider this. I like that area - it's quirky - and would be more than happy to look after this one as needed. It's the least that I could do in return for your efforts in placing so many. Let me know what you think.. Thanks! Mike (n4/c) ------_Part_3c44fe02-02f2-5a39-010203040506 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (rly-yh01.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.33]) by air-yh02.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYH28-0115204240; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:42:40 1900 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (cpe-24-221-56-185.az.sprintbbd.net [24.221.56.185]) by rly-yh01.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH19-0115204223; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:42:23 -0500 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA32383; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:05:13 -0700 Received: from cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com [207.46.181.85]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA32367 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:01:00 -0700 Received: from 0019072773 ([67.24.239.212]) by cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:35:48 -0800 From: "Ed Philpott" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2002 01:35:48.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[203AC050:01C19E2E] Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache karma Sender: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com Errors-To: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com X-BeenThere: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List for discussing Geocaching in Arizona List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:33:30 -0700 Hey N4/C, Think we can get Team Puzzel or Wolfb8 to share any of their extra karma. I'm always in the need for extra karma or so I'm told. Ed Trail Gypsy _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ------_Part_3c44fe02-02f2-5a39-010203040506-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 06:50:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:50:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache In-Reply-To: <3C43B555.BB7AB59A@primenet.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020115234833.022140d0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 09:51 PM 1/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: >It's not that easy. I get emails from people telling me that such and >such a clue is missing. Can I check it for them? Then I get emails >from people who have driven 200+ miles looking for the next clue and let I am having a whole new problem with the multi cache I put out down here in Tucson. So far I have 2 finds and 1 lost log entry. The problem is that I have had two other find logs that were actually not finds. Both log entries stated that they found the clue and planned on following the clues over the next month or so, but still logged the cache as a find. My real complaint about this is that I have clearly stated in the cache description that it is not to be logged as a find until they reach the final location. I deleted the logs for both finds, and have not received any hate mail yet, but... In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 12:54:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 05:54:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Not Really Finds (Scott) Message-ID: <3C457804.F8CEC131@primenet.com> Scott, I've seen 2 variations in logs of what you've experienced. (1) In the multi-cache on South Mountain (something to do with balls), there are I think 2 find logs in which the person only did part of the multi-cache. One stated that it got dark and couldn't finish. The other stated not finding one of the stages but reasoned that since everyone else had problems that he/she couldn't be expected to find that stage. (There's no evidence in prior logs that anyone had trouble with that stage.) (2) I saw a couple of logs on caches in the San Diego area where someone went to the coordinates of a regular cache, didn't find the cache, and logged it as a find reasoning that (a) they went to the right coordinates and (b) they gave it their best effort. If either the above 2 find logs appeared on one of my caches, I'd (a) email the person to explain that I don't consider their find a find and (b) delete the logs. My understanding is that the purpose is to find the cache, not go stand on the coordinates stated on the cache description. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 14:00:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 06:00:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Archived cache In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020115234833.022140d0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <20020116140036.7610.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com> Your cache, your rules. I would have deleted them as well. They may have intended to log the trip as a note and forgot that the default is a find and didn't change it. Eric Team Dragon --- Scott Wood wrote: > At 09:51 PM 1/14/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >It's not that easy. I get emails from people > telling me that such and > >such a clue is missing. Can I check it for them? > Then I get emails > >from people who have driven 200+ miles looking for > the next clue and let > > I am having a whole new problem with the multi cache > I put out down here in > Tucson. So far I have 2 finds and 1 lost log entry. > The problem is that I > have had two other find logs that were actually not > finds. Both log > entries stated that they found the clue and planned > on following the clues > over the next month or so, but still logged the > cache as a find. > > My real complaint about this is that I have clearly > stated in the cache > description that it is not to be logged as a find > until they reach the > final location. > > I deleted the logs for both finds, and have not > received any hate mail yet, > but... > > > In liberty, > > Scott > > wood@myblueheaven.com > www.myblueheaven.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 14:17:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:17:03 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec Message-ID: <200201161417.g0GEGil89816@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> Trisha Radley wrote on 1/15/02 10:55 AM : >Was wondering if you saw the big search for those 2 boys up by Flag..... Nice work. Thanks. Anxiety always sets in when I hear of someone lost, and it is very heartwarming to see SAR make the outcome "right." -Jim From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 12:25:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 05:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Sparky's Stash Message-ID: <3C45714C.8A96EB0E@primenet.com> Sparky's Stash is active. It never disappeared. Here's the email I received from Dobre... Dobre wrote: > I went by there the other day, and looked, and it was still there, not sure > about the contents inside, I guess I need to find a better water proof > cannister, but it was there, the minipalm tree is hard to find though... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geocaching.com User Email BOT" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:45 PM > Subject: srdrake contacting you from Geocaching.com > > > Greetings from Geocaching.com. > > > > User srdrake has contacted you with the following message: > > > > Did you make Sparky's Stash active again? Did you replace the cache? > It's not archived any more. Thanks. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 14:31:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 07:31:39 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage Message-ID: <3C458ECB.6961C486@primenet.com> I'm in the possession of Courage. As you probably know, Courage has a goal to get to NYC in relatively short time (by June I believe). I believe the Phoenix area to be an island of sorts and it's hard for something to leave the area. Just to get Courage east of the Mississippi River requires several people willing to move it 300+ miles. I can easily see Courage just bouncing around between Phoenix-area caches until someone happens upon it just before a trip to the east. I'd like to see Courage get east of the Mississippi River where civilization is much closer together and it'll be much easier for it to move in small cache hops towards NYC. My plan at the moment is to mail Courage to my father this weekend so he can put it into a cache in South Carolina. If there's anyone on this listserv who' going east in the very near-term who would like to carry Courage to a cache in the Eastern or Central time zones, I'd be more than happy to set up a temporary private cache (email you the coordinates) so you can get it before your travels east. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 15:08:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:08:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage References: <3C458ECB.6961C486@primenet.com> Message-ID: <001f01c19e9f$aa90f5a0$b1520d82@qwest.net> May you should read the travler list on geocaching .com Mailing is not allowed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:31 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > I'm in the possession of Courage. As you probably know, Courage has a > goal to get to NYC in relatively short time (by June I believe). > > I believe the Phoenix area to be an island of sorts and it's hard for > something to leave the area. Just to get Courage east of the > Mississippi River requires several people willing to move it 300+ > miles. I can easily see Courage just bouncing around between > Phoenix-area caches until someone happens upon it just before a trip to > the east. I'd like to see Courage get east of the Mississippi River > where civilization is much closer together and it'll be much easier for > it to move in small cache hops towards NYC. > > My plan at the moment is to mail Courage to my father this weekend so he > can put it into a cache in South Carolina. > > If there's anyone on this listserv who' going east in the very near-term > who would like to carry Courage to a cache in the Eastern or Central > time zones, I'd be more than happy to set up a temporary private cache > (email you the coordinates) so you can get it before your travels east. > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 15:35:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:35:30 -0700 Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Courage Message-ID: I agree with Stephen - bugs seems to sort of stagnate around the area. I took two bugs to Boston last week, and looked but didn't have the oppurtunity to bring any back. I didn't know mailing was not allowed, but I can understand it. Seems like we need an underground bug railroad...? I go back east frequently, but not again until March. To this end, I am finishing a travel bug preferred cache that I hope to have out in the next two weeks, if not earlier. My idea was to make a cache that would be frequented by bugs, allowing for greater exchange and dispersals. The cache location would be conducive to this end as well. Any suggestions? I like the travel bug concept, but it seems that a lot of them tend to "island" out, as Stephen suggested. Rob (Team CHUMP) -----Original Message----- From: wolfb8 [mailto:wolfb8@qwest.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:09 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage May you should read the travler list on geocaching .com Mailing is not allowed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:31 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > I'm in the possession of Courage. As you probably know, Courage has a > goal to get to NYC in relatively short time (by June I believe). > > I believe the Phoenix area to be an island of sorts and it's hard for > something to leave the area. Just to get Courage east of the > Mississippi River requires several people willing to move it 300+ > miles. I can easily see Courage just bouncing around between > Phoenix-area caches until someone happens upon it just before a trip to > the east. I'd like to see Courage get east of the Mississippi River > where civilization is much closer together and it'll be much easier for > it to move in small cache hops towards NYC. > > My plan at the moment is to mail Courage to my father this weekend so he > can put it into a cache in South Carolina. > > If there's anyone on this listserv who' going east in the very near-term > who would like to carry Courage to a cache in the Eastern or Central > time zones, I'd be more than happy to set up a temporary private cache > (email you the coordinates) so you can get it before your travels east. > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 16:16:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:16:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage References: Message-ID: <001701c19ea9$34c3e6c0$6501a8c0@Home> I've had direct contact with about a dozen official travel bugs or unofficial travelers in the past six months. Of those about 50% have gone interstate within a couple weeks. There are a few casual cachers who will get one and hold it for weeks, but that is the exception. Usually they are picked up and placed fairly quickly. For most travelers their movment pattern and time frame is unimportant. Courage is a special case. it has a very specific destination and a time limit. I personally think it would be interesting to see how this traveler moves on its own without resorting to mail so soon. There is a risk associated with this because central Arizona is a bit of an island. However, given the purpose of this traveler, it might move fairly fast. People are already making a special effort to grab it in this area. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bell, Robert" To: "'Geocaching List Serv'" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > I agree with Stephen - bugs seems to sort of stagnate around > the area. I took two bugs to Boston last week, and looked but didn't > have the oppurtunity to bring any back. I didn't know mailing was > not allowed, but I can understand it. Seems like we need an underground > bug railroad...? I go back east frequently, but not again until March. > > To this end, I am finishing a travel bug preferred cache that I hope to > have out in the next two weeks, if not earlier. My idea was to make > a cache that would be frequented by bugs, allowing for greater exchange > and dispersals. The cache location would be conducive to this end as well. > > Any suggestions? I like the travel bug concept, but it seems that a > lot of them tend to "island" out, as Stephen suggested. > > Rob (Team CHUMP) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wolfb8 [mailto:wolfb8@qwest.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:09 > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > > > May you should read the travler list on geocaching .com Mailing is not > allowed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Drake" > To: "Geocaching Listserv" > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:31 AM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > > > > I'm in the possession of Courage. As you probably know, Courage has a > > goal to get to NYC in relatively short time (by June I believe). > > > > I believe the Phoenix area to be an island of sorts and it's hard for > > something to leave the area. Just to get Courage east of the > > Mississippi River requires several people willing to move it 300+ > > miles. I can easily see Courage just bouncing around between > > Phoenix-area caches until someone happens upon it just before a trip to > > the east. I'd like to see Courage get east of the Mississippi River > > where civilization is much closer together and it'll be much easier for > > it to move in small cache hops towards NYC. > > > > My plan at the moment is to mail Courage to my father this weekend so he > > can put it into a cache in South Carolina. > > > > If there's anyone on this listserv who' going east in the very near-term > > who would like to carry Courage to a cache in the Eastern or Central > > time zones, I'd be more than happy to set up a temporary private cache > > (email you the coordinates) so you can get it before your travels east. > > > > -srdrake > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 16:22:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:22:26 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Not Really Finds (Scott) In-Reply-To: <3C457804.F8CEC131@primenet.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020116092026.00a53460@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 05:54 AM 1/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: >If either the above 2 find logs appeared on one of my caches, I'd (a) >email the person to explain that I don't consider their find a find and >(b) delete the logs. That is what I did. I haven't heard back from either person yet. >My understanding is that the purpose is to find the cache, not go stand >on the coordinates stated on the cache description. I stated it pretty clearly that just getting to the clues was not a find. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 16:46:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:46:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D2E@srp.gov> Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to aid with the movement east. I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always positive comment concerning it being against the rules). One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix is an island. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:12:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:12:10 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) References: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D2E@srp.gov> Message-ID: <001c01c19eb0$ef4b3280$b1520d82@qwest.net> If you coould not follow the rules for the bug you should have not picked it up maybe there are others in phx that would like to add to pot before it is sent..... there are lots of caches on the east side of the valley... I to will email ken with my opion ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) > Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at > least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm > checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to > aid with the movement east. > > I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me > mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then > I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always > positive comment concerning it being against the rules). > > One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. > I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. > To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and > my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less > frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. > > I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours > because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I > intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it > significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. > Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this > listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix > is an island. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:20:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:20:54 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) In-Reply-To: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D2E@srp.gov> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020116101825.00a490e0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 09:46 AM 1/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: >One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. >I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. >To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and >my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less >frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:39:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:39:18 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020116101825.00a490e0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <003401c19eb4$b9b91160$b1520d82@qwest.net> i agree but there is a cache there scott just not posted yet... but there is north mountain cache that is posted ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) > At 09:46 AM 1/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. > >I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. > >To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and > >my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less > >frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. > > What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make > it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is > more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? > In liberty, > > Scott > > wood@myblueheaven.com > www.myblueheaven.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:43:25 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Stamm) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:43:25 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Message-ID: <200201161743.g0GHh5l17002@pimout1-int.prodigy.net> Scott Wood wrote on 1/16/02 10:20 AM : >What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make >it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is >more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? >In liberty, > Great idea Scott! Maybe we should set up caches at ALL the rest areas. The bugs can fly then. Long distance travelers can bag some without detouring; It's a better break than just using the facilities. It would be a great place to introduce the hobby to the public........... -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:52:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:52:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Thank you wolfb8 Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D33@srp.gov> Your ever positive attitude has given me the strength to continue my effort to move Courage east. I wish I knew how to be as positive as you always are. Thank you for your opion. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:54:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:54:27 -0700 Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Message-ID: This idea has merit. I was looking at one near (but not AT) Sky Harbor. However rest stops are an excellent suggestion. There is libby's cache at Sunset Point already; I know there are rest stops near on I-10 near the New Mexico border, and along I-8 near...nowhere really. Sort of a Travel Bug (Pony) Express...then I-10 West to LA? Hit 'em as you drive.... "Fast Cache"! -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Jim Stamm [mailto:JimStamm@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:43 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Scott Wood wrote on 1/16/02 10:20 AM : >What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make >it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is >more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? >In liberty, > Great idea Scott! Maybe we should set up caches at ALL the rest areas. The bugs can fly then. Long distance travelers can bag some without detouring; It's a better break than just using the facilities. It would be a great place to introduce the hobby to the public........... -Jim * Please notice that I have changed my e-mail address to: JimStamm@Mac.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 17:59:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:59:03 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D34@srp.gov> Well, I didn't know where Sacaton is until I looked at the map. Anyway, I've been meaning to go to Tucson to find some caches. I'll do this this weekend and take Courage with me to Tucson and place him in a cache there. Tucson is east of Phoenix and is on a major highway going east. (Phoenix is really off the major highways.) Then the Tucson people can have a crack at Courage. We can spread the love around the state! -srdrake Scott Wood wrote on 1/16/02 10:20 AM : >What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make >it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is >more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 18:05:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:05:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D35@srp.gov> Besides Courage, I also have the possession of 2 other travellers from caches found this past weekend. If I put one of these travellers in Courage, then there would be a traveller inside a traveller (since Courage is both a traveller and a cache). Would that be a geocaching.com first? From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 18:10:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:10:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) In-Reply-To: <003401c19eb4$b9b91160$b1520d82@qwest.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020116101825.00a490e0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020116111011.00a4ec10@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 10:39 AM 1/16/2002 -0700, you wrote: >i agree but there is a cache there scott just not posted yet... but there is >north mountain cache that is posted I'm traveling to California this weekend and am planning on hitting as many caches along the way as possible. Can you give me the waypoint for this one? In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 18:38:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:38:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Message-ID: How about Albuquerque, NM?? Is that far enough east? Michael ----Original Message Follows---- Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to aid with the movement east. I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always positive comment concerning it being against the rules). One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix is an island. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 19:55:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:55:37 -0700 Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Message-ID: So instead of a multi-cache, it's a multi-bug? -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:06 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A funny thought Besides Courage, I also have the possession of 2 other travellers from caches found this past weekend. If I put one of these travellers in Courage, then there would be a traveller inside a traveller (since Courage is both a traveller and a cache). Would that be a geocaching.com first? _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 19:58:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Scotti) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:58:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) In-Reply-To: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D2E@srp.gov> Message-ID: Send Courage towards Tucson - the I-10 connection gets it going in the right direction and I've seen a number of travelbugs in the Tucson area which came in from distant locations. They said east - and southeast is still east. I agree that if you go strictly east, you get into the caches that have low hit rates over in the eastern part of the state (see West Fork I and a few others there for example, thought Thompson Creek has a good hit rate....) and it may take forever to get past that area.... I know there are a bunch of Tucson Geocachers who would love to help Courage along it's way. Jim. On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 srdrake@srpnet.com wrote: > Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at > least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm > checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to > aid with the movement east. > > I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me > mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then > I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always > positive comment concerning it being against the rules). > > One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. > I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. > To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and > my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less > frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. > > I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours > because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I > intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it > significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. > Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this > listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix > is an island. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 20:09:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:09:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe Baja Fleg can pick it up. I think he is going to be over the beginning of Feb and there might be someone in NM that can get it further. Ed ----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jim Scotti Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:59 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) Send Courage towards Tucson - the I-10 connection gets it going in the right direction and I've seen a number of travelbugs in the Tucson area which came in from distant locations. They said east - and southeast is still east. I agree that if you go strictly east, you get into the caches that have low hit rates over in the eastern part of the state (see West Fork I and a few others there for example, thought Thompson Creek has a good hit rate....) and it may take forever to get past that area.... I know there are a bunch of Tucson Geocachers who would love to help Courage along it's way. Jim. On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 srdrake@srpnet.com wrote: > Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at > least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm > checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to > aid with the movement east. > > I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me > mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then > I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always > positive comment concerning it being against the rules). > > One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. > I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. > To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and > my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less > frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. > > I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours > because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I > intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it > significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. > Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this > listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix > is an island. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 20:18:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:18:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] To Jim Scotti Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D37@srp.gov> Be looking for Courage in a Tucson cache this weekend. You won't know which one until I get home and log the traveller in. Hopefully you Tucson folks can have the mad dash to see who can get to it first. -srdrake, who's hoping that Courage doesn't return back to Phoenix in a week or two From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 20:20:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:20:05 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Sparky's Stash Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D38@srp.gov> I failed at finding it at lunch today. The buildings block the signals and make my GPS readings change. I thought I gave the area a pretty good look. Dobre says the cache is there. Good luck to everyone else. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 23:46:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:46:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend In-Reply-To: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D34@srp.gov> Message-ID: Since he's supposed to be placed within 24 hours of a find, could you please place him again in Phoenix until you go to Tucson? We know of some other firefighters that might be interested in seeing him. Thanks. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of srdrake@srpnet.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:59 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Well, I didn't know where Sacaton is until I looked at the map. Anyway, I've been meaning to go to Tucson to find some caches. I'll do this this weekend and take Courage with me to Tucson and place him in a cache there. Tucson is east of Phoenix and is on a major highway going east. (Phoenix is really off the major highways.) Then the Tucson people can have a crack at Courage. We can spread the love around the state! -srdrake Scott Wood wrote on 1/16/02 10:20 AM : >What about setting up a cache somewhere near the Sacaton rest area. Make >it a pretty easy one, and put it on the eastbound rest area so that it is >more likely that it will be a eastbound traveler that would pick it up? _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 23:54:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:54:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec References: <3C3FB38F.B213AD90@primenet.com> <013f01c19ded$e4a65300$78207418@Pradley> <001c01c19e0c$5f182aa0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <003a01c19ee9$27930680$a1217418@Pradley> Hi Jerry and all, The two boys wandered off Saturday about noon and were out 3 full days and 2 nights with temps down to about 12, luckily very little wind and no precip. They had no food or water, no supplies and light clothing. I think it is a flat miracle they are alive. Apparently, they huddled together at night under trees for warmth and ate snow for water (which isn't recommended due to lowering body temp more.) They huddled at night, the older putting his frozen tennis shoes inside his pant legs to try and keep them warm, and the younger, who had a light jacket on, doing his best to keep his big brother warm! They moved during the day, wandering around, at times seeing or hearing rescue vehicles/helos but unable to get their attention. The terrain was rough in places, and very dense trees. They mainly stayed near the west rim of Mormon Canyon, but did at one point go out to Lake Mary Rd, but said no one came along, so they turned back to the forest. This is a bit hard to believe, but remember they were 8 and 15 and scared. They continued to try and find their way back to camp, but ended up about 4 miles NW where they finally ran into 4x4 ground searchers from Mohave Co (who I know, I lived in Kingman) just before sunset on Monday. This is why I volunteer for this....why I am willing to stay up all night, or whatever is needed....for the possible great outcomes like this...which looked pretty grim that second night. MANY prayers were said and God answered them. We had at one time almost 200 searchers involved from at least 6 counties. Working in the command center on the radio this time, I am able to keep track of all that is going on, and it is also neat to see each well-trained and well-equipped group be deployed. Many dedicated folks...can't praise them enough. My mom (and sometimes a friend) won't always understand why and how I will drop everything to go, and gets nervous when I go (she watches my kids if it is a long search, which luckily doesn't happen often) but I remind them....."if you, or one of your kids, were lost out there, wouldn't you want as many trained and experienced people out there looking for you?" That usually helps them understand why we do what we do. ~~trisha "Lightning" Yavapai Co. Jeep Posse Searchers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec > Trisha: > > It must have been very rewarding to be involved in the effort. I was very > thankful that the boys were ok. > > I haven't heard any details on the news. How far had the boys gone and > what did they do for shelter at night? > > Jerry > Team Cache-Quest > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trisha Radley" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:55 AM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Search...using GPS, UTM and T/R/Sec > > > > Hi all, > > Was wondering if you saw the big search for those 2 boys up by Flag. It > was > > on all the news channels. They were found alive and well after 3 days and > 2 > > very frigid nights, which is a miracle....prayers were answered. They had > no > > provisions and only light clothing. I was part of the team of searchers > > working to find them, this time in the command vehicle running the radio > and > > radio log all night (6p to 6a) Sun/Mon. (On big searches like this, we > > usually run 12 hour shifts) The rest of our Posse also was up there along > > with ground searchers, horses, ATV's, search dogs and 4x4's from 6 > counties, > > plus helos and even US customs Blackhawk (we needed the FLIR..infra red). > > It was interesting to be in the command vehicle and have various groups > > reporting back their positions (and positions of tracks found) in > Lat/Long, > > UTM, and even township.range.section, and quite a challenge to plot > > positions on the maps. > > Geocaching is sure fun, but thank God we have this technology to assist in > > this type of life and death situation..... > > ~~trisha "Lightning" ~~Yavapai Co Jeep Posse > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 16 23:56:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:56:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage References: Message-ID: <006301c19ee9$781cb380$a1217418@Pradley> I'll be going to Reno in March, but htat may be more of a dead zone than here.... ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bell, Robert" To: "'Geocaching List Serv'" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:35 AM Subject: FW: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > I agree with Stephen - bugs seems to sort of stagnate around > the area. I took two bugs to Boston last week, and looked but didn't > have the oppurtunity to bring any back. I didn't know mailing was > not allowed, but I can understand it. Seems like we need an underground > bug railroad...? I go back east frequently, but not again until March. > > To this end, I am finishing a travel bug preferred cache that I hope to > have out in the next two weeks, if not earlier. My idea was to make > a cache that would be frequented by bugs, allowing for greater exchange > and dispersals. The cache location would be conducive to this end as well. > > Any suggestions? I like the travel bug concept, but it seems that a > lot of them tend to "island" out, as Stephen suggested. > > Rob (Team CHUMP) > > -----Original Message----- > From: wolfb8 [mailto:wolfb8@qwest.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:09 > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > > > May you should read the travler list on geocaching .com Mailing is not > allowed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Drake" > To: "Geocaching Listserv" > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:31 AM > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage > > > > I'm in the possession of Courage. As you probably know, Courage has a > > goal to get to NYC in relatively short time (by June I believe). > > > > I believe the Phoenix area to be an island of sorts and it's hard for > > something to leave the area. Just to get Courage east of the > > Mississippi River requires several people willing to move it 300+ > > miles. I can easily see Courage just bouncing around between > > Phoenix-area caches until someone happens upon it just before a trip to > > the east. I'd like to see Courage get east of the Mississippi River > > where civilization is much closer together and it'll be much easier for > > it to move in small cache hops towards NYC. > > > > My plan at the moment is to mail Courage to my father this weekend so he > > can put it into a cache in South Carolina. > > > > If there's anyone on this listserv who' going east in the very near-term > > who would like to carry Courage to a cache in the Eastern or Central > > time zones, I'd be more than happy to set up a temporary private cache > > (email you the coordinates) so you can get it before your travels east. > > > > -srdrake > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 01:20:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mike; When I had Courage, I thought about contacting you and mailing him to you. But I was aware mailing is taboo for travellers. Maybe he'll make into your area soon. :-) Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Baja Fleg Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:39 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Courage (Thanks) How about Albuquerque, NM?? Is that far enough east? Michael ----Original Message Follows---- Thanks for your input. I'm going to hold onto Courage a few more days at least to attempt to find someone who has an upcoming trip east. I'm checking with people I know who aren't geocachers who could be recruited to aid with the movement east. I'll email the originators of this cache and see what their opinion is of me mailing it to my father to be placed in a cache. If they say it's ok, then I'll go ahead and mail it (regardless of Libby's effervescent and always positive comment concerning it being against the rules). One of the stated rules for Courage is that it must be always moving east. I found it in a cache that is already on the easternmost parts of Phoenix. To move it even slightly more east would (a) be really difficult for me and my near-term schedule and (b) put it in a cache that is probably much less frequently visited than the normal Phoenix ones. I'm ignoring the rule that says the traveller must be placed within 24 hours because it is not realistic and probably hurts moving this cache east. I intend to hold Courage for a week max. If all attempts fail at moving it significantly east, I'll just place it in an easy cache in the Phoenix area. Given the wide diversity of people who geocache and subscribe to this listserv, there's likely someone with a near-term trip to the east. Phoenix is an island. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 01:32:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:32:54 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 Message-ID: <20020116.183255.-716347.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Stephen-srdrake I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! Jerry-Offtrail From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 01:43:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:43:02 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 In-Reply-To: <20020116.183255.-716347.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: Congrats on the 100th cache find Stephen! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Jerry Nelson Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:33 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 Stephen-srdrake I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! Jerry-Offtrail _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 02:04:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:04:54 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 References: <20020116.183255.-716347.2.peakbagger2@juno.com> Message-ID: <001101c19efb$5b6c7920$6501a8c0@Home> Congratulations, Stephen! I'm guessing from your log entry that Alborg's Cache (The Rolls) was your #100. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 > Stephen-srdrake > > I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the > lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! > > Jerry-Offtrail > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 02:52:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:52:21 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 In-Reply-To: <001101c19efb$5b6c7920$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Congrats, are there a one hundred 100's on that log? Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team Cache-Quest Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:05 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 Congratulations, Stephen! I'm guessing from your log entry that Alborg's Cache (The Rolls) was your #100. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Nelson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 > Stephen-srdrake > > I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the > lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! > > Jerry-Offtrail > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 01:58:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:58:03 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Another 100 Message-ID: <3C462FAB.286B1F2F@primenet.com> Thanks. Predictions: (1) the second 100 will be much more difficult (2) Wyle E will reach 1000 before I reach 200 >I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the >lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! > >Jerry-Offtrail > >Congrats on the 100th cache find Stephen! > >Larry Farquhar >Team "Wyle E" >www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 04:25:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 04:25:58 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 Message-ID: Congrats to srdrake on the 100th find! Team CBx2 >From: "Ed Philpott" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 >Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:52:21 -0700 > >Congrats, are there a one hundred 100's on that log? > >Trail Gypsy > >-----Original Message----- >From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com >[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team >Cache-Quest >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:05 PM >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 > > >Congratulations, Stephen! > >I'm guessing from your log entry that Alborg's Cache (The Rolls) was your >#100. > >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jerry Nelson" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:32 PM >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another 100 > > > > Stephen-srdrake > > > > I just checked the snaptek stats and noticed you've crossed in to the > > lofty realm of the 100+ crowd. Congratulations! > > > > Jerry-Offtrail > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 04:54:49 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:54:49 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Message-ID: <3C465919.3A8491FB@primenet.com> I admire your desire to allow firefighters in Phoenix to see it. But, if I place him in a Phoenix cache, it probably won't be going to a firefighter. It'll be a race between Phoenix geocachers to see who gets to it first. (1) I think the intent of the cache is to move towards NYC. There is a time constraint. For Courage to get there (by motor vehicle), it must first go to either Flagstaff or Tucson. I'm willing to get him into a Tucson cache Friday morning. I'm not stretching the 24 hour rule by much. My opinion is that getting Courage towards NYC is more important. (2) Courage came into my possession 1/15 at 12:30 PM. This morning (1/16) at 6 AM Courage came into the possession of n4/c via a cache (less than 24 hours). At 9 AM Courage came back into my possession (same cache). Therefore, my 24 hours ends tomorrow (Thursday-1/17) at 9 AM. That means I'll be holding Courage 24-27 hours over the stated period. But, I am moving him 100-120 miles closer (measured via interstate highway mileage) to NYC. (3) There are firefighters in Tucson. Since Courage is currently in my possession, I do have some decision about how I move him. I say give the folks in Tucson a chance with him. (4) My Blue Heaven has given me some info on public internet access in the Tucson area. I will be placing Courage in either my first or second cache (given that the hiding place will hold him) and going straight to the library to log his location. (5) You've already had possession of Courage. You've already had an opportunity to move him closer to NYC or give him to Phoenix area firefighters. (6) The purpose of this cache is to move it to NYC, not give the maximum number of people the opportunity to log a find on him. -srdrake >Since he's supposed to be placed within 24 hours of a find, could you please >place him again in Phoenix until you go to Tucson? We know of some other >firefighters that might be interested in seeing him. Thanks. > >Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 04:45:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend References: <3C465919.3A8491FB@primenet.com> Message-ID: <00a001c19f11$c495da20$b1520d82@qwest.net> Why do you not follow Courag's ower"s request and place it in a cache in phx area... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend > I admire your desire to allow firefighters in Phoenix to see it. But, > if I place him in a Phoenix cache, it probably won't be going to a > firefighter. It'll be a race between Phoenix geocachers to see who gets > > to it first. > > (1) I think the intent of the cache is to move towards NYC. There is a > time constraint. For Courage to get there (by motor vehicle), it must > first go to either Flagstaff or Tucson. I'm willing to get him into a > Tucson cache Friday morning. I'm not stretching the 24 hour rule by > much. My opinion is that getting Courage towards NYC is more important. > > (2) Courage came into my possession 1/15 at 12:30 PM. This morning > (1/16) at 6 AM Courage came into the possession of n4/c via a cache > (less than 24 hours). At 9 AM Courage came back into my possession > (same cache). Therefore, my 24 hours ends tomorrow (Thursday-1/17) at 9 > > AM. That means I'll be holding Courage 24-27 hours over the stated > period. But, I am moving him 100-120 miles closer (measured via > interstate highway mileage) to NYC. > > (3) There are firefighters in Tucson. Since Courage is currently in my > possession, I do have some decision about how I move him. I say give > the folks in Tucson a chance with him. > > (4) My Blue Heaven has given me some info on public internet access in > the Tucson area. I will be placing Courage in either my first or second > > cache (given that the hiding place will hold him) and going straight to > the library to log his location. > > (5) You've already had possession of Courage. You've already had an > opportunity to move him closer to NYC or give him to Phoenix area > firefighters. > > (6) The purpose of this cache is to move it to NYC, not give the maximum > > number of people the opportunity to log a find on him. > > -srdrake > > >Since he's supposed to be placed within 24 hours of a find, could you > please > >place him again in Phoenix until you go to Tucson? We know of some > other > >firefighters that might be interested in seeing him. Thanks. > > > >Trail Gypsy > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 02:17:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:17:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Message-ID: <3C463438.9A66E1B9@primenet.com> I admire your desire to allow firefighters in Phoenix to see it. But, if I place him in a Phoenix cache, it probably won't be going to a firefighter. It'll be a race between Phoenix geocachers to see who gets to it first. (1) I think the intent of the cache is to move towards NYC. There is a time constraint. For Courage to get there (by motor vehicle), it must first go to either Flagstaff or Tucson. I'm willing to get him into a Tucson cache Friday morning. I'm not stretching the 24 hour rule by much. My opinion is that getting Courage towards NYC is more important. (2) Courage came into my possession 1/15 at 12:30 PM. This morning (1/16) at 6 AM Courage came into the possession of n4/c via a cache (less than 24 hours). At 9 AM Courage came back into my possession (same cache). Therefore, my 24 hours ends tomorrow (Thursday-1/17) at 9 AM. That means I'll be holding Courage 24-27 hours over the stated period. But, I am moving him 100-120 miles closer (measured via interstate highway mileage) to NYC. (3) There are firefighters in Tucson. Since Courage is currently in my possession, I do have some decision about how I move him. I say give the folks in Tucson a chance with him. (4) My Blue Heaven has given me some info on public internet access in the Tucson area. I will be placing Courage in either my first or second cache (given that the hiding place will hold him) and going straight to the library to log his location. (5) You've already had possession of Courage. You've already had an opportunity to move him closer to NYC or give him to Phoenix area firefighters. (6) The purpose of this cache is to move it to NYC, not give the maximum number of people the opportunity to log a find on him. -srdrake >Since he's supposed to be placed within 24 hours of a find, could you please >place him again in Phoenix until you go to Tucson? We know of some other >firefighters that might be interested in seeing him. Thanks. > >Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 15:12:55 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:12:55 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A suggestion about Courage's instructions References: <001701c19ea9$34c3e6c0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <002301c19f69$70d87160$6501a8c0@Home> Stephen: I haven't seen Courage so I don't know what 'luggage' he carries, but here is something to think about. If Courage doesn't already have a sturdy tag attached to him that has his special instructions on it, you might want to attach one before you pass him on. When I created the special Wyle E traveler I didn't do this. My instructions on the web site said he was to stay in Arizona. However, since those instructions weren't attached to the traveler, someone picked him up in Tucson and he ended up in South Dakota before the person saw the web site. I've picked up travelers in the past with all kinds of special instructions. Many times the instructions have gotten wet and are almost unreadable. Now when I create a traveler with special instructions, I print them on some business card paper and have it laminated into a luggage tag that I attach to the traveler with the travel bug. You can go to any Staples to have a business card laminated into a luggage tag for about a $1. What else can you get for a $1 besides a phone call? Keep on caching, Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 15:57:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:57:07 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D42@srp.gov> Jerry, Great suggestions. Obviously once Courage leaves Arizona people will be less familiar with his purpose. Here's a brief summary of what someone will see when they find Courage: It's in a tupperware container and the top states "Courage" and gives the website address. Inside is a logbook, a beanie baby, two fire department patches, and KenH's cashiers check. And there's also a yellow sticky note where n4/c left a note. The beanie baby does have one of the aluminum traveller dogtags that can be purchased for travellers. I'm going on memory because it's in the trunk of my car at the moment. I don't remember there being any specific instructions on Courage's purpose that are obvious to someone who randomly finds it with a cache. There may be instructions written in the logbook or on a piece of paper somewhere inside the cache. I like your idea about a laminated luggage tag. Some sort of instructions that simply say "Move me towards NYC for the New York Police & Fire Widows' & Children's Fund" would help assure that confusion doesn't arise from someone who sees it as a regular traveller and takes it to Los Angeles. My schedule doesn't allow me to do this today. As it appears that people want to hold Courage hostage in the Phoenix area for quite awhile longer, hopefully someone else can do this. I see nothing wrong with a Wyle E traveller or Wyle E himself ending up in South Dakota. Perhaps if we can get him out of the state for 6 months, the rest of us will have an opportunity to catch up with the number of AZ caches he's done. Can a person become a traveller? -srdrake >Stephen: > >I haven't seen Courage so I don't know what 'luggage' he carries, but here >is something to think about. > >If Courage doesn't already have a sturdy tag attached to him that has his >special instructions on it, you might want to attach one before you pass him >on. > >When I created the special Wyle E traveler I didn't do this. My >instructions on the web site said he was to stay in Arizona. However, since >those instructions weren't attached to the traveler, someone picked him up >in Tucson and he ended up in South Dakota before the person saw the web >site. > >I've picked up travelers in the past with all kinds of special instructions. >Many times the instructions have gotten wet and are almost unreadable. Now >when I create a traveler with special instructions, I print them on some >business card paper and have it laminated into a luggage tag that I attach >to the traveler with the travel bug. You can go to any Staples to have a >business card laminated into a luggage tag for about a $1. What else can >you get for a $1 besides a phone call? > >Keep on caching, >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:13:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] I will be placing Courage in Cholla Forest Friday AM Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D43@srp.gov> I will be placing Courage in the Cholla Forest cache Friday AM. He should be at that cache site by noon Friday at the latest. I won't be able to log this placement until Friday evening at the earliest. I'm placing Courage in this cache for the following reasons: * It's east of the Alborg Cache where I picked him up. (In keeping with the intent of the cache) * The Cholla Forest cache is rated 3 stars of less as required in the description. * It keeps him in the Phoenix area for those who want to touch it. (I guess we have Courage Karma in addition to Cache Karma.) * It's a cache that a lot of people haven't yet done, so perhaps it will encourage a visit or two. If anyone wants to race to retrieve him, the hike to Cholla Forest can be done round-trip in under 2 hours and there doesn't appear to be any significant elevation changes. Access to the trail is very near Lost Dutchman State Park and should be convenient for many. If someone wants to be sitting under the cholla bushes waiting for me, I'll hand him to you. If someone else wants to move him west, that's your decision. I believe that by placing Courage in this cache, I maintain the integrity of the purpose of Courage. I'm dumbfounded by the few upset folks from my request for advice on moving Courage east. Just goes to show that you can't please all the people all the time. Hopefully this placement will quiet the Courage controversy. Next time I'll just do what I think is best without publicly asking for advice and "opions." From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:17:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:17:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instruction s Message-ID: I think this would just add to Larry's counts. I too was not specific about our "Luminous Larry" travel bug. His initial goal was to be picked up by "Wyle E" (Larry) and taken for a ride in the famous yellow Jeep. He's now in New Jersey and has traveled 2292.7 miles. Are there yellow Jeeps in New Jersey? Oh well, I plan on having a Wyle E goodwill ambassador in my custody this weekend. This could be fun. ;-) Cody (TEAM CBX2) -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:57 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions Jerry, Great suggestions. Obviously once Courage leaves Arizona people will be less familiar with his purpose. Here's a brief summary of what someone will see when they find Courage: It's in a tupperware container and the top states "Courage" and gives the website address. Inside is a logbook, a beanie baby, two fire department patches, and KenH's cashiers check. And there's also a yellow sticky note where n4/c left a note. The beanie baby does have one of the aluminum traveller dogtags that can be purchased for travellers. I'm going on memory because it's in the trunk of my car at the moment. I don't remember there being any specific instructions on Courage's purpose that are obvious to someone who randomly finds it with a cache. There may be instructions written in the logbook or on a piece of paper somewhere inside the cache. I like your idea about a laminated luggage tag. Some sort of instructions that simply say "Move me towards NYC for the New York Police & Fire Widows' & Children's Fund" would help assure that confusion doesn't arise from someone who sees it as a regular traveller and takes it to Los Angeles. My schedule doesn't allow me to do this today. As it appears that people want to hold Courage hostage in the Phoenix area for quite awhile longer, hopefully someone else can do this. I see nothing wrong with a Wyle E traveller or Wyle E himself ending up in South Dakota. Perhaps if we can get him out of the state for 6 months, the rest of us will have an opportunity to catch up with the number of AZ caches he's done. Can a person become a traveller? -srdrake >Stephen: > >I haven't seen Courage so I don't know what 'luggage' he carries, but >here is something to think about. > >If Courage doesn't already have a sturdy tag attached to him that has >his special instructions on it, you might want to attach one before you >pass him >on. > >When I created the special Wyle E traveler I didn't do this. My >instructions on the web site said he was to stay in Arizona. However, since >those instructions weren't attached to the traveler, someone picked him >up in Tucson and he ended up in South Dakota before the person saw the >web site. > >I've picked up travelers in the past with all kinds of special instructions. >Many times the instructions have gotten wet and are almost unreadable. >Now when I create a traveler with special instructions, I print them on >some business card paper and have it laminated into a luggage tag that >I attach to the traveler with the travel bug. You can go to any >Staples to have a business card laminated into a luggage tag for about >a $1. What else can you get for a $1 besides a phone call? > >Keep on caching, >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:38:43 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:38:43 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A061@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Funny. Travel bugs that were intended to stay near home have left the state. A travel bug wanting to leave the state is staying near home. BTW - ladies, don't forget Trail Gypsy's "Ladies Night Out" cache event is tomorrow evening. Connie plans on stopping by for a little while (she may not get there until around 7:00pm - she works late). I'm sure she's anxious to meet everyone (and gossip). Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:40:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F75.A5525170 Content-Type: text/plain I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here in Arizona. Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me. Let me know if I've missed anyone. Thanks, Cody ------------------------------------------------ Wyle E 100 - 9/23/01 200 - 12/22/01 Bob Renner 100 - 12/27/01 Cache-Quest ?? Trail Gypsy ?? N4/C ?? SRDrake ?? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F75.A5525170 Content-Type: text/html Message
I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here in Arizona.  Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me.  Let me know if I've missed anyone.
 
Thanks,
Cody
 
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Wyle E
100 - 9/23/01
200 - 12/22/01
 
Bob Renner
100 - 12/27/01
 
Cache-Quest
??
 
Trail Gypsy
??
 
N4/C
??
 
SRDrake
??
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F75.A5525170-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:41:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:41:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] I will be placing Courage in Cholla Forest Friday AM In-Reply-To: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D43@srp.gov> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117093900.00a4ead0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 09:13 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I'm dumbfounded by the few upset folks from my request for advice on moving >Courage east. Just goes to show that you can't please all the people all >the time. Hopefully this placement will quiet the Courage controversy. >Next time I'll just do what I think is best without publicly asking for >advice and "opions." Too bad you won't be bringing it to Tucson. Even though I am going to be out of town this weekend I had some hopes that I would have a chance to find it. I know that there are plenty of other cachers down here that would like to find some bugs, but there just aren't that many. Maybe next time. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:51:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:51:53 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C19F3C.97895AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageTrail Gypsy - 12-13-01 -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Cody Brown Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:40 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here in Arizona. Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me. Let me know if I've missed anyone. Thanks, Cody ------------------------------------------------ Wyle E 100 - 9/23/01 200 - 12/22/01 Bob Renner 100 - 12/27/01 Cache-Quest ?? Trail Gypsy ?? N4/C ?? SRDrake ?? ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C19F3C.97895AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Trail=20 Gypsy   -  12-13-01
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com=20 [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of = Cody=20 Brown
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:40 AM
To: = az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] = Info=20 needed on 100 finds..

I'm = trying to come=20 up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here in = Arizona. =20 Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me.  Let = me know=20 if I've missed anyone.
 
Thanks,
Cody
 
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Wyle = E
100 = -=20 9/23/01
200 = -=20 12/22/01
 
Bob=20 Renner
100 = -=20 12/27/01
 
Cache-Quest
??
 
Trail=20 Gypsy
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N4/C
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SRDrake
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------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C19F3C.97895AE0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:01:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:01:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100th finds Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F78.915C1EF0 Content-Type: text/plain I think all of these are right. Who will be next?? #1 Wyle E - 9/23/01 #2 Cache-Quest - 11/17/01 #3 CBX2 - 12/9/01 #4 Trail Gypsy - 12/13/01 #5 Bob Renner - 12/27/01 #6 Team TJ - 12/30/01 #7 N4/C - 1/6/02 #8 SRDrake - 1/15/02 Congratulations and welcome to the 100 found club. Wyle E is in a club by himself. Look for a new cache coming soon with a small gift for each of you. Cody Team CBX2 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F78.915C1EF0 Content-Type: text/html Message
I think all of these are right.  Who will be next??
 
#1 Wyle E - 9/23/01
#2 Cache-Quest - 11/17/01
#3 CBX2 - 12/9/01
#4 Trail Gypsy - 12/13/01
#5 Bob Renner - 12/27/01
#6 Team TJ - 12/30/01
#7 N4/C - 1/6/02
#8 SRDrake - 1/15/02
 
Congratulations and welcome to the 100 found club.  Wyle E is in a club by himself.  Look for a new cache coming soon with a small gift for each of you.
 
Cody
Team CBX2
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F78.915C1EF0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 16:49:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 09:49:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If I remember right the instrucions were on a separate sheet of paper as well as in the log book. I agree though with something on the bug it's self would better assure that it's read. Ed Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Cody Brown Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:17 AM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions I think this would just add to Larry's counts. I too was not specific about our "Luminous Larry" travel bug. His initial goal was to be picked up by "Wyle E" (Larry) and taken for a ride in the famous yellow Jeep. He's now in New Jersey and has traveled 2292.7 miles. Are there yellow Jeeps in New Jersey? Oh well, I plan on having a Wyle E goodwill ambassador in my custody this weekend. This could be fun. ;-) Cody (TEAM CBX2) -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:57 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions Jerry, Great suggestions. Obviously once Courage leaves Arizona people will be less familiar with his purpose. Here's a brief summary of what someone will see when they find Courage: It's in a tupperware container and the top states "Courage" and gives the website address. Inside is a logbook, a beanie baby, two fire department patches, and KenH's cashiers check. And there's also a yellow sticky note where n4/c left a note. The beanie baby does have one of the aluminum traveller dogtags that can be purchased for travellers. I'm going on memory because it's in the trunk of my car at the moment. I don't remember there being any specific instructions on Courage's purpose that are obvious to someone who randomly finds it with a cache. There may be instructions written in the logbook or on a piece of paper somewhere inside the cache. I like your idea about a laminated luggage tag. Some sort of instructions that simply say "Move me towards NYC for the New York Police & Fire Widows' & Children's Fund" would help assure that confusion doesn't arise from someone who sees it as a regular traveller and takes it to Los Angeles. My schedule doesn't allow me to do this today. As it appears that people want to hold Courage hostage in the Phoenix area for quite awhile longer, hopefully someone else can do this. I see nothing wrong with a Wyle E traveller or Wyle E himself ending up in South Dakota. Perhaps if we can get him out of the state for 6 months, the rest of us will have an opportunity to catch up with the number of AZ caches he's done. Can a person become a traveller? -srdrake >Stephen: > >I haven't seen Courage so I don't know what 'luggage' he carries, but >here is something to think about. > >If Courage doesn't already have a sturdy tag attached to him that has >his special instructions on it, you might want to attach one before you >pass him >on. > >When I created the special Wyle E traveler I didn't do this. My >instructions on the web site said he was to stay in Arizona. However, since >those instructions weren't attached to the traveler, someone picked him >up in Tucson and he ended up in South Dakota before the person saw the >web site. > >I've picked up travelers in the past with all kinds of special instructions. >Many times the instructions have gotten wet and are almost unreadable. >Now when I create a traveler with special instructions, I print them on >some business card paper and have it laminated into a luggage tag that >I attach to the traveler with the travel bug. You can go to any >Staples to have a business card laminated into a luggage tag for about >a $1. What else can you get for a $1 besides a phone call? > >Keep on caching, >Jerry >Team Cache-Quest _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:08:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:08:54 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs In-Reply-To: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A061@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117100817.00a4fdd0@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 09:38 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >BTW - ladies, don't forget Trail Gypsy's "Ladies Night Out" cache event is >tomorrow evening. Connie plans on stopping by for a little while (she may >not get there until around 7:00pm - she works late). I'm sure she's anxious >to meet everyone (and gossip). I was wondering if that was still on. My wife can't make it up, but I see that it is no longer listed on the events cache page on the main page. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:17:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:17:26 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A067@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> I'm sure Trail Gypsy will confirm. It still shows up as an active cache (GC312B). Maybe there's a limit to the number of events that show up and it got bumped off. BTW Scott - we'll be down in Tucson this weekend for a festival. I hope to find some of the new urban caches down there. It depends on how much free time we get. Connie insisted the #1 reason we're going is for the festival - not cache hunting :( Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Wood [mailto:wood@myblueheaven.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:09 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs At 09:38 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >BTW - ladies, don't forget Trail Gypsy's "Ladies Night Out" cache event >is tomorrow evening. Connie plans on stopping by for a little while >(she may not get there until around 7:00pm - she works late). I'm sure >she's anxious to meet everyone (and gossip). I was wondering if that was still on. My wife can't make it up, but I see that it is no longer listed on the events cache page on the main page. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:10:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:10:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117100817.00a4fdd0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: Yes it is still on. She will be going early to get a table, but come when you can. There will be a painted quart can (sound familiar)on the table. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Scott Wood Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:09 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bugs At 09:38 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >BTW - ladies, don't forget Trail Gypsy's "Ladies Night Out" cache event is >tomorrow evening. Connie plans on stopping by for a little while (she may >not get there until around 7:00pm - she works late). I'm sure she's anxious >to meet everyone (and gossip). I was wondering if that was still on. My wife can't make it up, but I see that it is no longer listed on the events cache page on the main page. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:19:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:19:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Info needed on 100 finds.. Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D48@srp.gov> Cody, There needs to be a clarification on what you're classifying as the 100th find. Are you looking for the date of the 100th overall find or the 100th find in Arizona? I went through the list of caches using the Snaptek stats to determine the date of each team's 100th find in Arizona. His stats only show Arizona cache finds. The dates of these 100th Arizona finds can be found in the timeline on the quick webpage I set up: http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html The dates I put of teams' 100th Arizona finds are only as accurate as my ability to count and the accuracy of the stats on the Snaptek pages. There is the possibility that I counted to the 100th finds for some teams at a time that the Snaptek pages had an incomplete crawl of data. I could have errors, but I feel confident that I have the correct date of each team's 100th Arizona find. I know of no way to determine when each team achieved its 100th overall find other than (1) asking the person or (2) finding a cache log where the team announces that it's their 100th cache. For me: 100th overall cache found: January 15, 2002 (Alborg's Cache or whatever it's called). 100th cache found in Arizona: I'm only sitting at 76 at the moment. I hope to reach this within the next 2 weeks. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:26:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:26:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100 Club Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D49@srp.gov> That reminds me about Massacre Grounds Cache. I did it on 1/13. In the log book is n4/c's entry cheering his 100th cache on 1/6. I immediately thought that I didn't plan my cache hunting schedule right. Massacre Grounds was my 99th total cache. About that 1/6 day of n4/c's 100th cache... Some trivia: N4/c has told me that he never saw any of the pink ribbons that Wyle E followed to the top of the ridge. He must have really been focused on finding his 100th! (I started to follow the pink ribbons until I realized I was going the wrong direction.) Ok, here's a plug... Massacre Grounds is a great cache to go do. I highly recommend it as a high quality cache to go find. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:28:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:28:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Info needed on 100 finds.. Message-ID: This would be the 100th cache found. I have your 100th cache find listed as 1/15/02. Team TJ actually found their 100th cache in New Mexico. I'm going off the cache logs when a team actually announces that this cache is #100. No big deal, just a little something that I'm putting together. Thanks, Cody -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:19 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Info needed on 100 finds.. Cody, There needs to be a clarification on what you're classifying as the 100th find. Are you looking for the date of the 100th overall find or the 100th find in Arizona? I went through the list of caches using the Snaptek stats to determine the date of each team's 100th find in Arizona. His stats only show Arizona cache finds. The dates of these 100th Arizona finds can be found in the timeline on the quick webpage I set up: http://www.geocities.com/taekwondoman2002/geocaching.html The dates I put of teams' 100th Arizona finds are only as accurate as my ability to count and the accuracy of the stats on the Snaptek pages. There is the possibility that I counted to the 100th finds for some teams at a time that the Snaptek pages had an incomplete crawl of data. I could have errors, but I feel confident that I have the correct date of each team's 100th Arizona find. I know of no way to determine when each team achieved its 100th overall find other than (1) asking the person or (2) finding a cache log where the team announces that it's their 100th cache. For me: 100th overall cache found: January 15, 2002 (Alborg's Cache or whatever it's called). 100th cache found in Arizona: I'm only sitting at 76 at the moment. I hope to reach this within the next 2 weeks. -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:31:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:31:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D4A@srp.gov> Larry, You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:40:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:40:32 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100th finds References: Message-ID: <002801c19f7e$0fe758c0$6501a8c0@Home> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19F43.635F4DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MessageCody, 11/17 is correct for Cache-Quest. - Jerry ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cody Brown=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100th finds I think all of these are right. Who will be next?? =20 #1 Wyle E - 9/23/01 #2 Cache-Quest - 11/17/01 #3 CBX2 - 12/9/01 #4 Trail Gypsy - 12/13/01 #5 Bob Renner - 12/27/01 #6 Team TJ - 12/30/01 #7 N4/C - 1/6/02 #8 SRDrake - 1/15/02 =20 Congratulations and welcome to the 100 found club. Wyle E is in a = club by himself. Look for a new cache coming soon with a small gift for = each of you. =20 Cody=20 Team CBX2 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19F43.635F4DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Cody, 11/17 is correct for Cache-Quest. = -=20 Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cody Brown
To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek= .com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 17, = 2002 10:01=20 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100th=20 finds

I = think all of=20 these are right.  Who will be next??
 
#1 = Wyle E -=20 9/23/01
#2 = Cache-Quest -=20 11/17/01
#3 = CBX2 -=20 12/9/01
#4 = Trail Gypsy -=20 12/13/01
#5 = Bob Renner -=20 12/27/01
#6 = Team TJ -=20 12/30/01
#7 = N4/C -=20 1/6/02
#8 = SRDrake -=20 1/15/02
 
Congratulations=20 and welcome to the 100 found club.  Wyle E is in a club by = himself. =20 Look for a new cache coming soon with a small gift for each of=20 you.
 
Cody =
Team = CBX2
 
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C19F43.635F4DE0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:41:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:41:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 100 Finds Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D4D@srp.gov> According to the Swedish geocaching website that pulls off data from geocaching.com and lists everyone in the world with 100 or more cache finds, there are 84 teams in the world who have reached 100 cache finds. This is as of 1/5/02, the last time they updated their website. Poor n4/c... He missed by 1 day of making their list as his 100th was on 1/6/02. With my 100th on 1/15/02, I feel reasonably confident that both n4/c and I both made the "First 100 to 100 Club" of geocaching. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 13:52:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 06:52:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Status of where Courage gets placed Message-ID: <3C46D73B.BEDC13C8@primenet.com> The rules of the Finding Courage Cache specifically say the following: "Courage MUST always move east towards his goal of New York City." If you can convince KenH (the ower?) to officially change the rules of the cache to state that Courage is to remain in the Phoenix area until January XX or February XX, then I'll happily place Courage in a Phoenix cache first thing Friday morning (first opportunity to do so). I'll even pre-announce on this listserv which cache I'll be placing him in. This seems like a fair solution to what seems to be the minority opinion of keeping Courage in the Phoenix area. I am not going to be the person who moves Courage west (away from NYC) unless the official text of the cache allows me to do so. I have been trying to make every effort to move Courage towards NYC. You have been very adamant about the 24 hour rule on his cache, totally ignoring all other rules on his cache. >wolfb8 wrote: >Why do you not follow Courag's ower"s request and place it in a cache in >phx area... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 18:03:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:03:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A06C@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> The Jeep will be staying home this trip. I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Larry, You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 18:25:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:25:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. Cody -----Original Message----- From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) The Jeep will be staying home this trip. I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Larry, You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). -srdrake _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 18:47:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:47:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) References: Message-ID: <006701c19f87$6a576bc0$6501a8c0@Home> Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 18:52:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:52:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Message-ID: Put him in Flagstaff. I'll be going through that area in two weeks and can give him a list to NM. Michael ----Original Message Follows---- From: Stephen Drake Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com To: Geocaching Listserv Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Courage will be heading to Tucson this weekend Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 19:17:28 -0700 I admire your desire to allow firefighters in Phoenix to see it. But, if I place him in a Phoenix cache, it probably won't be going to a firefighter. It'll be a race between Phoenix geocachers to see who gets to it first. (1) I think the intent of the cache is to move towards NYC. There is a time constraint. For Courage to get there (by motor vehicle), it must first go to either Flagstaff or Tucson. I'm willing to get him into a Tucson cache Friday morning. I'm not stretching the 24 hour rule by much. My opinion is that getting Courage towards NYC is more important. (2) Courage came into my possession 1/15 at 12:30 PM. This morning (1/16) at 6 AM Courage came into the possession of n4/c via a cache (less than 24 hours). At 9 AM Courage came back into my possession (same cache). Therefore, my 24 hours ends tomorrow (Thursday-1/17) at 9 AM. That means I'll be holding Courage 24-27 hours over the stated period. But, I am moving him 100-120 miles closer (measured via interstate highway mileage) to NYC. (3) There are firefighters in Tucson. Since Courage is currently in my possession, I do have some decision about how I move him. I say give the folks in Tucson a chance with him. (4) My Blue Heaven has given me some info on public internet access in the Tucson area. I will be placing Courage in either my first or second cache (given that the hiding place will hold him) and going straight to the library to log his location. (5) You've already had possession of Courage. You've already had an opportunity to move him closer to NYC or give him to Phoenix area firefighters. (6) The purpose of this cache is to move it to NYC, not give the maximum number of people the opportunity to log a find on him. -srdrake >Since he's supposed to be placed within 24 hours of a find, could you please >place him again in Phoenix until you go to Tucson? We know of some other >firefighters that might be interested in seeing him. Thanks. > >Trail Gypsy _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 18:53:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:53:37 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: You have a very smart son Jerry. ;) Michael Team TJ ----Original Message Follows---- Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 19:04:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:04:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A07E@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle. Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. Painted yellow, of course. Larry Farquhar -----Original Message----- From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) You have a very smart son Jerry. ;) Michael Team TJ ----Original Message Follows---- Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 19:16:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C19F8B.76282EE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19F8B.76282EE0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F8B.76282EE0 Content-Type: text/plain Hey Larry, how bout one of these?? It's even yellow... Cody Team CBX2 -----Original Message----- From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com ] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:05 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle. Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com . Painted yellow, of course. Larry Farquhar -----Original Message----- From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com ] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) You have a very smart son Jerry. ;) Michael Team TJ ----Original Message Follows---- Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com ] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com ] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F8B.76282EE0 Content-Type: text/html Message

Hey Larry, how bout one of these??  It's even yellow...

Cody
Team CBX2



-----Original Message-----
From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:05 PM
To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com'
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)


Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle.

Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. Painted yellow, of course.

Larry Farquhar


-----Original Message-----
From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)


You have a very smart son Jerry. ;)

Michael
Team TJ

----Original Message Follows----
Cody isn't the only one afflicted.  I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps.  The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been
found.   My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep,
especially a yellow one.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cody Brown" <cbrown@triumphairrepair.com>
To: <az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)


 > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills.  I do however get a nervous  > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a
yellow
 > Jeep.  I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to
> the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's.  >  >  > Cody 
> >
-----Original Message-----  > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com]  > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM  > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com'
 > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)
 >
 >
 > The Jeep will be staying home this trip.
 >
 > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a  > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know  > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my
dad
 > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep.
 >
 > Larry Farquhar
 > Team "Wyle E"
 > www.azjeeper.com
 >
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com]
 > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM
 > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
 > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)
 >
 >
 > Larry,
 >      You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson
on
 > Saturday to hunt caches?  I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep
> Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma."  By the way, last weekend I saw some
Yellow  > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix.  I think it was the cache  > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain).  >  > -srdrake  >  > _______________________________________________
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If you like i will post it to the list...... Why not just follow is wishes.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:52 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Status of where Courage gets placed > The rules of the Finding Courage Cache specifically say the following: > > "Courage MUST always move east towards his goal of New York City." > > If you can convince KenH (the ower?) to officially change the rules of > the cache to state that Courage is to remain in the Phoenix area until > January XX or February XX, then I'll happily place Courage in a Phoenix > cache first thing Friday morning (first opportunity to do so). I'll > even pre-announce on this listserv which cache I'll be placing him in. > This seems like a fair solution to what seems to be the minority opinion > of keeping Courage in the Phoenix area. I am not going to be the person > who moves Courage west (away from NYC) unless the official text of the > cache allows me to do so. I have been trying to make every effort to > move Courage towards NYC. > > You have been very adamant about the 24 hour rule on his cache, totally > ignoring all other rules on his cache. > > >wolfb8 wrote: > >Why do you not follow Courag's ower"s request and place it in a cache > in > >phx area... > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 19:34:08 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out In-Reply-To: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A067@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <20020117193408.70831.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> The way the web page handles event caches is it uses the "date hidden" as the date of the event. Since Ladie's Night Out was "hidden" on 1/7, that's the date of the event as far as the web site knows. It doesn't go into the text to read that the real date is 1/18. If Trail Gypsy were to edit the cache page and change the date hidden to 1/18, then the cache would reappear on the upcomming events list. Bob --- "Farquhar, Larry" wrote: > I'm sure Trail Gypsy will confirm. It still shows up > as an active cache > (GC312B). Maybe there's a limit to the number of > events that show up and it > got bumped off. ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 19:40:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:40:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C19F54.266C8540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MessageI would take either one in any color if someone were to give it to me. Quess I'll have to be happy with my white jeep. ed -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Cody Brown Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:16 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Hey Larry, how bout one of these?? It's even yellow... Cody Team CBX2 -----Original Message----- From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:05 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle. Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. Painted yellow, of course. Larry Farquhar -----Original Message----- From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) You have a very smart son Jerry. ;) Michael Team TJ ----Original Message Follows---- Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C19F54.266C8540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I=20 would take either one in any color if someone were to give it to = me.  Quess=20 I'll have to be happy with my white jeep.
 
ed
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com=20 [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of = Cody=20 Brown
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:16 = PM
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Hey Larry, how bout one of = these?? =20 It's even yellow...

Cody
Team = CBX2



-----Original Message-----
From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com]
Sent:=20 Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:05 PM
To:=20 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com'
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Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache=20 vehicle.

Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. Painted = yellow, of=20 course.

Larry Farquhar


-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com]
Se= nt:=20 Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM
To:=20 az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] = Tucson (Was=20 Ladies Night Out)


You have a very smart son Jerry.=20 ;)

Michael
Team TJ

----Original Message = Follows----
Cody=20 isn't the only one afflicted.  I seem to have a general Jeep = Anxiety with=20 a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps.  The only time it really = bothers=20 me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never=20 been
found.   My son tells me the only way to cure it is = to get a=20 Jeep,
especially a yellow one.

Jerry

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: "Cody Brown" <cbrown@triumphairrepair.com>
To: = <az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com>
Sent: Thursday, January = 17, 2002=20 11:25 AM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night=20 Out)


 > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety"=20 pills.  I do however get a nervous  > twitch along with = an=20 increase in blood pressure when encountering a
yellow
 > = Jeep.  I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and = Baseline due=20 to
> the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at = Earnhardt's. =20 >  >  > Cody 
> >
-----Original=20 Message-----  > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] =20 > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM  > To:=20 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com'
 > Subject: RE:=20 [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night=20 Out)
 >
 >
 > The Jeep will be = staying home=20 this trip.
 >
 > I haven't seen the pills, but = they must=20 belong to CBx2. Cody went through a  > difficult mental period = with=20 Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know  > if he ever = fully=20 recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then = my
dad
 >=20 starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow=20 Jeep.
 >
 > Larry Farquhar
 > Team = "Wyle=20 E"
 >=20 = www.azjeeper.com
 >
 >
 >
 > = -----Original Message-----
 > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com]
&nbs= p;>=20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM
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 > Subject: = [Az-Geocaching]=20 Tucson (Was Ladies Night = Out)
 >
 >
 >=20 Larry,
 >      You mean my I may = have=20 yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson
on
 > = Saturday to=20 hunt caches?  I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow = Jeep
>=20 Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma."  By the way, last weekend I saw=20 some
Yellow  > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north=20 Phoenix.  I think it was the cache  > that is right next = to the=20 Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain).  >  >=20 -srdrake  >  >=20 _______________________________________________
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 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C19F54.266C8540-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 19:51:35 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:51:35 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A081@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C19F90.5EB4AA90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19F90.5EB4AA90" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F90.5EB4AA90 Content-Type: text/plain It's a BUHT! I'll take it only if it's free! I can buy 3 fully equipped Jeeps for the price of one Hummer. Besides, it's too big to fit on some of the cache trails. Larry Farquhar -----Original Message----- From: Cody Brown [mailto:cbrown@triumphairrepair.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:16 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) Hey Larry, how bout one of these?? It's even yellow... Cody Team CBX2 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F90.5EB4AA90 Content-Type: text/html Message
It's a BUHT!  I'll take it only if it's free! I can buy 3 fully equipped Jeeps for the price of one Hummer. Besides, it's too big to fit on some of the cache trails.
 
Larry Farquhar
-----Original Message-----
From: Cody Brown [mailto:cbrown@triumphairrepair.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:16 PM
To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com'
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out)

Hey Larry, how bout one of these??  It's even yellow...

Cody
Team CBX2


 

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I figure that it helps with the 'find' ratio... and maybe stops a few hearts... :) -Mike- ------_Part_3c472bb4-02c0-2e6b-010203040506 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh04.mail.aol.com (v82.22) with ESMTP id MAILINYH44-0117135144; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:51:44 -0500 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (cpe-24-221-56-185.az.sprintbbd.net [24.221.56.185]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v83.18) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYH410-0117135129; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 13:51:29 -0500 Received: from ns2.sequoia.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05838; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:15:14 -0700 Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by ns2.sequoia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05822 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:12:04 -0700 Received: from gneild ([24.56.47.64]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20020117184729.PTRY25672.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@gneild> for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:47:29 -0800 Message-ID: <006701c19f87$6a576bc0$6501a8c0@Home> From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: References: Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com Errors-To: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com X-BeenThere: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List for discussing Geocaching in Arizona List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:47:29 -0700 Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, especially a yellow one. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cody Brown" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > Larry, > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson on > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ------_Part_3c472bb4-02c0-2e6b-010203040506-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 21:03:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Scotti) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:03:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Letsee, At the rate I am going, I figure the following: Team Scotti 100 - 6/15/06 200 - 4/26/11 But who knows, maybe I'll visit the Phx area for a day of caching and move those dates up a bit.... :-) Jim. On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cody Brown wrote: > I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here > in Arizona. Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me. Let > me know if I've missed anyone. > > Thanks, > Cody > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Wyle E > 100 - 9/23/01 > 200 - 12/22/01 > > Bob Renner > 100 - 12/27/01 > > Cache-Quest > ?? > > Trail Gypsy > ?? > > N4/C > ?? > > SRDrake > ?? > > > Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 21:28:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:28:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117142609.00a4e270@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 02:03 PM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Letsee, > At the rate I am going, I figure the following: > >Team Scotti >100 - 6/15/06 >200 - 4/26/11 > >But who knows, maybe I'll visit the Phx area for a day of caching and move >those dates up a bit.... :-) I am thinking that I have about the same projection as you do. I have been giving this some real thought and I do believe that a Tucson cacher will have to make some trips to Phoenix if they want to get to 100 any time soon. There just aren't enough caches in a concentration down here to allow you to find 5 or 6 in a day. We have tried a couple time to go out and find 4 or 5 in one day, but with all the time driving it makes it pretty tough to get more than 3. Mt. Lemmon might be the exception. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 21:39:18 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jim Scotti) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:39:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117142609.00a4e270@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I was looking things over the other day too. Most of my cache finds are on the west side of Tucson thus far & I haven't yet made a run for the caches on the east side of town and the northeast. I was thinking I could get all the Mt. Lemmon caches in one swoop, but I thought more about it and figure I should wait until maybe March or April for the snow to melt. I bet the Tucson Top cache and maybe a few others would be hindered by recent snowfall.... Many (maybe half?) of the Tucson area caches are also hidden behind fee areas like Mt. Lemmon, the Catalina State Park and now even Madera Canyon. What are others experiences with snow and caches? My one experience was positive, but the cache (the Thompson Cache near Show Low) is both on a well traveled trail (even in mid winter, following the trail was trivial with plenty of tracks along it) and it is hidden above ground so not likely to be buried in snow. Jim. pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/geocache.html > I am thinking that I have about the same projection as you do. I have been > giving this some real thought and I do believe that a Tucson cacher will > have to make some trips to Phoenix if they want to get to 100 any time > soon. There just aren't enough caches in a concentration down here to > allow you to find 5 or 6 in a day. > > We have tried a couple time to go out and find 4 or 5 in one day, but with > all the time driving it makes it pretty tough to get more than 3. Mt. > Lemmon might be the exception. > > > In liberty, > > Scott > > wood@myblueheaven.com > www.myblueheaven.com Jim Scotti Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 21:57:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:57:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D55@srp.gov> Libby, (1) Is all you ever do is complain and cry? I received nothing but complaints from you when I moved your traveller Basco from a Phoenix area cache to a San Diego cache and corrected the traveller number that you incorrectly wrote on it. I received nothing but complaints when I started my Mad World cache because you viewed it as unfair to you. I received only complaints from you because I simply repeated your statement in two listserv posts that your friend has logged cache finds on your geocaching id without your presence. And I've received only complaints from you in my attempt to solicit advice on moving Courage towards its intended goal east. What is your problem? Please try to be more positive and constructive. (2) My placement of Courage in Cholla Forest tomorrow morning is a Phoenix-area cache. It's placement there is in agreement with KenH's email late last night in which he asked to keep Courage in Phoenix a little longer. It's also in agreement with the rules he stated in the cache which said to move it east. Cholla forest is on a longitude that is east of the longitude of the cache where I originally found him. It is a Phoenix-area cache, easily accessible by most geocachers in the Phoenix area. It is rated 3-stars or less as KenH requests in the cache description. The only thing I have violated from KenH's requests (both email and cache description) is that I will have held it continuously for 48 hours instead of 24 hours. (I received KenH's email last night after I sent the listserv message that spelled out the reasons I was taking it to Tucson. I have had email problems with my ISP this week in which email has arrived 24 hours late.) (3) Please don't insinuate that I'm violating KenH's directions and intent with Courage. Please post his email if it makes you happy. To suggest that his email requested something else is wrong. -srdrake >wolfb8/libby cried: >I was copied when Ken wrote you about his wishes... If you like i will post >it to the list...... Why not just follow is wishes.... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 21:58:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:58:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A084@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Tucson is a little harder to get many caches in one day. I've made two weekend trips (so far) to the Tucson area just to go cache hunting. Best we could do was 4 caches in a day, while still allowing time to enjoy the area. They're spread out. This weekend, I've identified 7 caches near downtown that are new, that I haven't found yet. We're spending the weekend, but for another purpose. I'm hoping to get 4 of these caches. The story of my life... Last time we were in Tucson, "Scary" was the only cache we hadn't found (tried, but couldn't find it). I get home, and a new cache was placed that same weekend. Within the past 5 or 6 weeks, there's now 11 caches in that part of the state for us to search for. Activity is picking up in Tucson! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Wood [mailto:wood@myblueheaven.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:29 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. At 02:03 PM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Letsee, > At the rate I am going, I figure the following: > >Team Scotti >100 - 6/15/06 >200 - 4/26/11 > >But who knows, maybe I'll visit the Phx area for a day of caching and >move those dates up a bit.... :-) I am thinking that I have about the same projection as you do. I have been giving this some real thought and I do believe that a Tucson cacher will have to make some trips to Phoenix if they want to get to 100 any time soon. There just aren't enough caches in a concentration down here to allow you to find 5 or 6 in a day. We have tried a couple time to go out and find 4 or 5 in one day, but with all the time driving it makes it pretty tough to get more than 3. Mt. Lemmon might be the exception. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 22:42:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:42:13 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) In-Reply-To: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A07E@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: > Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle. > > Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. > Painted yellow, of course. ...and those are what... $80,000 or so? From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 23:21:03 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:21:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR Message-ID: <20020117232103.51399.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> The following class is being offered free by REI. Thought it might be of interest to some of the newer members of the sport. Bob ------------------------------------- Find your Way with a GPS Technology has made finding your way a bit easier with a global positioning system (GPS). Navigate in to find out more about this hand-held technology and how to use it safely and properly. Charles Schaul, an engineer and business consultant, will lead you through a hands-on workshop that will cover current models and introduce some of the new Garmin Etrex models. * Feb. 12th @ Paradise Valley * Feb. 13th @ Tempe * 7:00 - 8:30 p.m. * FREE ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 00:34:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:34:37 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020109232905.027f4e80@mail.myblueheaven.com> Message-ID: <004a01c19fb7$e93b6560$b1520d82@qwest.net> Scott i am not ready to post the cache (rest stop at sanaton) to geocache web sight yet... but if you like to do it before email @ wolfb8@qwest.net and i will send you the coor. Hopefully i have it on the net in the next couple of weeks libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Phoenix area caches > Team My Blue Heaven will be heading to Southern California for the weekend > of the 19th through the 21st to visit family and try to hit some of the > caches out there. > > The reason for this post is that I would like some advice from some of the > Phoenix folks on some caches in the Phoenix area that we could hit on the > way through Phoenix. > > What I would like to do is hit 2 or 3 on the way out and possibly 2 or 3 > more on the way back. They would have to be fairly easy caches as we will > not have a lot of time to devote to each one, but I would like to log a > couple up there. > > We are planning a weekend in Phoenix later in the spring for the sole > purpose of hitting some of the more challenging caches up there, but it > would be nice to bag a few easier ones on our way through. > > I already have most of the ones that I am planning on looking for in > California mapped out, including one that is supposedly just off the > freeway near Palm Springs. Any advice/help on some in the Phoenix area > would sure be appreciated. > > Scott > Team My Blue Heaven > www.myblueheaven.com/geocache > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 01:08:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:08:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] The only email I've received from KenH concerning Courage Message-ID: <3C47758D.9ECCC7FA@primenet.com> Here's the only email I've received from KenH concerning what I do with Courage. I received it last night after I had written the response to Trail Gypsy on the listserv. (Trail Gypsy and I have taken our discussion to email and I believe we'll come to a common understanding.) I want to be above-table on what I'm doing with Courage. I do believe that the Courage cache and traveller listing should be updated to state the request that it stay in the Phoenix area a little longer. -srdrake Ken wrote: > Hello Stephen, > > I truly appreciate the time and consideration you have given to assisting > Courage in his travels. I have had several e-mails sent to me over the past > few days from other geo-cachers that have expressed an interest in giving to > this fund. After a great deal of contemplation my family and I would like > to request that you place Courage in a Phoenix area cache to accomadate the > many who wish to contribute to this cause. We feel that because Courage was > recently begun many Phoenix Area geo-cachers haven't had the opportunity to > share in this event as of yet. If Courage has not moved East in the next > few weeks we would be more than happy to accept your offer if it still > stands to move him to Tucson. Again, thank you for the thought and effort > you've put forth. > > Best wishes, > Ken and family From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 01:19:36 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:19:36 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] I spoke too soon. A 2nd email from KenH Message-ID: <3C477828.9DB8BBC@primenet.com> Just as I sent that last message to the listserv, I received a 2nd email from KenH (the launcher of Courage). Below is his statement concerning the movement of Courage. "Since there is such a strong interest in Courage we have decided to modify the rules a bit. Courage SHOULD be placed in ANY cache within 24 Hours in about a 50 mile radius of the Metro Phoenix area. After 02/11/02 the original plan of always moving east will take effect." Ken also regrets that arguing has developed over this cache. I'm sorry too as that was never my intent. I wanted to move Courage east and was seeking ways to do so quickly. I'm hoping to have Courage in the Cholla Forest cache around 9 AM tomorrow, by noon at the latest. Hopefully with all this interest in Courage, someone will go get him very soon. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 04:06:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Tierra Buena) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:06:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: A suggestion about Courage's instructions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c19fd5$963b8ca0$026fa8c0@OUR> > I think this would just add to Larry's counts. I too was not specific about our "Luminous Larry" > travel bug. His initial goal was to be picked up by "Wyle E" (Larry) and taken for a ride in the > famous yellow Jeep. He's now in New Jersey and has traveled 2292.7 miles. Welllll... I guess it's time to drill another hole in the woodwork. We are enjoying our new Geocaching hobby/game/sport/insanity. We're still "neocachers" (I like that term so much better than "newbies"). So I was not aware of Courage when I found out I was going east. Had I known of it, and been able to locate it, Courage would now be in New Jersey instead of Luminous Larry. I did exchange email with Cody before taking LL east, because the goal of that travel bug wasn't clear to me. Based on the most recent postings, though, it seems it may have worked out that Courage stayed in the Phoenix area. Don't know how things will work out for LL, though, as he's just been retrieved from his New Jersey cache. > Are there yellow Jeeps in New Jersey? In New Jersey at this time of year, all Jeeps are the color of slush. Steve Team Tierra Buena From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 04:17:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Tierra Buena) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:17:26 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR In-Reply-To: <20020117232103.51399.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c19fd7$09e85290$026fa8c0@OUR> > The following class is being offered free by REI. > Thought it might be of interest to some of the > newer members of the sport. > > Bob Bob, Do you know if registration is required, and if so, how one registers? Thanks, Steve From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 04:33:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 04:33:34 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. Message-ID: Jim, Maybe a few of us from the PHX area need to plant more caches in your area. :-D We look forward to getting back down to the Tucson area and finding your great caches (and seeing the grand babies!!!) Team CBx2 >From: Jim Scotti >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:03:40 -0700 (MST) > >Letsee, > At the rate I am going, I figure the following: > >Team Scotti >100 - 6/15/06 >200 - 4/26/11 > >But who knows, maybe I'll visit the Phx area for a day of caching and move >those dates up a bit.... :-) > >Jim. > >On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cody Brown wrote: > > > I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams >here > > in Arizona. Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me. >Let > > me know if I've missed anyone. > > > > Thanks, > > Cody > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wyle E > > 100 - 9/23/01 > > 200 - 12/22/01 > > > > Bob Renner > > 100 - 12/27/01 > > > > Cache-Quest > > ?? > > > > Trail Gypsy > > ?? > > > > N4/C > > ?? > > > > SRDrake > > ?? > > > > > > > >Jim Scotti >Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu >University of Arizona >Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 17 17:44:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:44:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ladies Night Out In-Reply-To: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A067@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020117104055.01da4c50@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 10:17 AM 1/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: >BTW Scott - we'll be down in Tucson this weekend for a festival. I hope to >find some of the new urban caches down there. It depends on how much free >time we get. Connie insisted the #1 reason we're going is for the festival - >not cache hunting :( Sounds like our trip to California this weekend. I have about 20 caches planned out between Phoenix and California. Ann is convinced that the only reason we are going is to find them. :-) I actually hope to drag some of the family along to some of the California ones. From reading some of the logs down here it seems that Team My Blue Heaven is about the only active Tucson team that hasn't bumped into the yellow jeep yet. Guess it won't be this weekend either, maybe next time. Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 14:12:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:12:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New License Plate Message-ID: http://www.arizonarepublic.com/sports/articles/0117outdoornb0117.html From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 14:47:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:47:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR In-Reply-To: <000801c19fd7$09e85290$026fa8c0@OUR> Message-ID: <20020118144742.57747.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> No registration is required - at least it hasn't been for previous classes. You just show up early if you want a chair. Bob --- Team Tierra Buena wrote: > > > The following class is being offered free by REI. > > Thought it might be of interest to some of the > > newer members of the sport. > > > > Bob > > Bob, > > Do you know if registration is required, and if so, > how one registers? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 15:29:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:29:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR References: <20020118144742.57747.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005e01c1a034$e1a33e40$b1520d82@qwest.net> what class about, when,were, missed that one ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Renner" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR > No registration is required - at least it hasn't been > for previous classes. You just show up early if you > want a chair. > > Bob > > --- Team Tierra Buena > wrote: > > > > > The following class is being offered free by REI. > > > Thought it might be of interest to some of the > > > newer members of the sport. > > > > > > Bob > > > > Bob, > > > > Do you know if registration is required, and if so, > > how one registers? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:04:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:04:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR In-Reply-To: <005e01c1a034$e1a33e40$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20020118160416.65946.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Repeat for some who missed it the first time. Find your Way with a GPS Technology has made finding your way a bit easier with a global positioning system (GPS). Navigate in to find out more about this hand-held technology and how to use it safely and properly. Charles Schaul, an engineer and business consultant, will lead you through a hands-on workshop that will cover current models and introduce some of the new Garmin Etrex models. * Feb. 12th @ Paradise Valley * Feb. 13th @ Tempe * 7:00 - 8:30 p.m. * FREE --- wolfb8 wrote: > what class about, when,were, missed that one ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:27:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:27:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) References: <006701c19f87$6a576bc0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <007301c1a03c$fe61f8c0$bc207418@Pradley> My head sure turns to look up here in Prescott, whenever I see a Yellow Jeep.....thinking it's probably Larry or one of Larry's relatives or something. Otherwise, Jeeps have no negative effect on me (probably a good thing) ~~trisha "Lightning1996YCJP" ie..."Yavapai Co JEEP Posse :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety > with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really > bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been > found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, > especially a yellow one. > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cody Brown" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a > nervous > > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering a yellow > > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > > > > Cody > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 AM > > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through > a > > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't > know > > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then my dad > > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > > > Larry Farquhar > > Team "Wyle E" > > www.azjeeper.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > > > Larry, > > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson > on > > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some > Yellow > > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was the cache > > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic mountain). > > > > -srdrake > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:37:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:37:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR References: <20020118160416.65946.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006801c1a03e$636403c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> kewl ... one more question Bob is there a # to call or a address I like to attend ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Renner" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR > Repeat for some who missed it the first time. > > Find your Way with a GPS > > Technology has made finding your way a bit easier > with a global positioning system (GPS). Navigate > in to find out more about this hand-held technology > and how to use it safely and properly. Charles > Schaul, an engineer and business consultant, will > lead you through a hands-on workshop that will > cover current models and introduce some of the new > Garmin Etrex models. > * Feb. 12th @ Paradise Valley > * Feb. 13th @ Tempe > * 7:00 - 8:30 p.m. > * FREE > > > --- wolfb8 wrote: > > what class about, when,were, missed that one > > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:29:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:29:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) References: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A07E@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Message-ID: <008401c1a03d$4a8899c0$bc207418@Pradley> Cool, Larry....very cool. I've ridden several times in a Hummer (dark green, tho') outfitted for search and rescue...that is alot of fun! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farquhar, Larry" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > Yellow Jeeps - the perfect geocache vehicle. > > Well.... I wouldn't mind one of these either: http://www.maximog.com. > Painted yellow, of course. > > Larry Farquhar > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Baja Fleg [mailto:fleigle@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:54 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > You have a very smart son Jerry. ;) > > Michael > Team TJ > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Cody isn't the only one afflicted. I seem to have a general Jeep Anxiety > with a increased anxiety toward yellow Jeeps. The only time it really > bothers me is when I'm heading toward a brand new cache that has never been > found. My son tells me the only way to cure it is to get a Jeep, > especially a yellow one. > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cody Brown" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > I no longer need my "Yellow Jeep Anxiety" pills. I do however get a > nervous > twitch along with an increase in blood pressure when encountering > a > yellow > > Jeep. I have to avoid the intersection of McClintock and Baseline due to > > the overwhelming number of yellow Jeeps at Earnhardt's. > > > Cody > > -----Original Message----- > From: Farquhar, Larry > [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 > AM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > > > The Jeep will be staying home this trip. > > > > I haven't seen the pills, but they must belong to CBx2. Cody went through > a > difficult mental period with Yellow Jeeps a few months back. ;) I don't > know > if he ever fully recovered. Team TJ also drives a Yellow Jeep. Then > my > dad > > starting cache hunting, and he drives a Yellow Jeep. > > > > Larry Farquhar > > Team "Wyle E" > > www.azjeeper.com > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:31 AM > > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Tucson (Was Ladies Night Out) > > > > > > Larry, > > You mean my I may have yellow jeep sightings if I go down to Tucson > on > > Saturday to hunt caches? I'm not sure whether it's called "Yellow Jeep > > Anxiety" or "Yellow Jeep Karma." By the way, last weekend I saw some > Yellow > Jeep Anxiety Pills in a cache in north Phoenix. I think it was > the cache > that is right next to the Buffalo Stash cache (same basic > mountain). > > -srdrake > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:32:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:32:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. References: Message-ID: <00c101c1a03d$b1fbc140$bc207418@Pradley> That's about my speed, Jim! LOL.... ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Scotti" To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Info needed on 100 finds.. > Letsee, > At the rate I am going, I figure the following: > > Team Scotti > 100 - 6/15/06 > 200 - 4/26/11 > > But who knows, maybe I'll visit the Phx area for a day of caching and move > those dates up a bit.... :-) > > Jim. > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cody Brown wrote: > > > I'm trying to come up with the date of the 100th cache finds for teams here > > in Arizona. Could everyone please fill in the blanks and return to me. Let > > me know if I've missed anyone. > > > > Thanks, > > Cody > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Wyle E > > 100 - 9/23/01 > > 200 - 12/22/01 > > > > Bob Renner > > 100 - 12/27/01 > > > > Cache-Quest > > ?? > > > > Trail Gypsy > > ?? > > > > N4/C > > ?? > > > > SRDrake > > ?? > > > > > > > > Jim Scotti > Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu > University of Arizona > Tucson, AZ 85721 USA http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 16:51:59 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:51:59 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Option for moving Courage east References: Message-ID: <001401c1a040$7257eac0$6501a8c0@Home> I learned today that there is a good chance that I'll be in Boca Raton, FL in mid-February. I'll certainly want to visit at least one cache while I'm there. If Courage is still looking for a lift at that time, I'd be glad to carry him along. Maybe we can contact the Boca Boyz and get a handoff to a reliable local team to get Courage headed north. Jerry (Cache-Quest) From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 17:24:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:24:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] REI free class on using a GPSR In-Reply-To: <006801c1a03e$636403c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <20020118172423.74974.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> REI should be in the phone book. There's one near PV Mall (approx N33.6014° W111.9892°) and another in Tempe (approx N33.3922° W111.9614°) - not too far from the Ladies Night Out cache. Bob --- wolfb8 wrote: > kewl ... one more question Bob is there a # to call > or a address I like to > attend ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 14:27:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 07:27:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Ladies Night Out Message-ID: Hope to see you all tonight! I will be there around 5:30 to get a table but come when you can. Trail Gypsy From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 18:40:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:40:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby Message-ID: Wow and I thought I was the trouble maker. ----Original Message Follows---- Libby, (1) Is all you ever do is complain and cry? I received nothing but complaints from you when I moved your traveller Basco from a Phoenix area cache to a San Diego cache and corrected the traveller number that you incorrectly wrote on it. I received nothing but complaints when I started my Mad World cache because you viewed it as unfair to you. I received only complaints from you because I simply repeated your statement in two listserv posts that your friend has logged cache finds on your geocaching id without your presence. And I've received only complaints from you in my attempt to solicit advice on moving Courage towards its intended goal east. What is your problem? Please try to be more positive and constructive. (2) My placement of Courage in Cholla Forest tomorrow morning is a Phoenix-area cache. It's placement there is in agreement with KenH's email late last night in which he asked to keep Courage in Phoenix a little longer. It's also in agreement with the rules he stated in the cache which said to move it east. Cholla forest is on a longitude that is east of the longitude of the cache where I originally found him. It is a Phoenix-area cache, easily accessible by most geocachers in the Phoenix area. It is rated 3-stars or less as KenH requests in the cache description. The only thing I have violated from KenH's requests (both email and cache description) is that I will have held it continuously for 48 hours instead of 24 hours. (I received KenH's email last night after I sent the listserv message that spelled out the reasons I was taking it to Tucson. I have had email problems with my ISP this week in which email has arrived 24 hours late.) (3) Please don't insinuate that I'm violating KenH's directions and intent with Courage. Please post his email if it makes you happy. To suggest that his email requested something else is wrong. -srdrake >wolfb8/libby cried: >I was copied when Ken wrote you about his wishes... If you like i will post >it to the list...... Why not just follow is wishes.... _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 18:25:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Lasivian) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Time to get back in the swing of things.. Message-ID: <3C480628.9553.659302C2@localhost> Greetings fellows, i'm awake again and back in caching, anyone have a current list of AZ caches (TOPO/txt/Magellen file formats would be best) thanks :) "People hate fur more than leather because it's easier to pick on rich old women, than on biker gangs" Lasivian - lasivian@usa.net - ICQ# 3619356 www.fastq.com/~lasivian From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 18:55:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Time to get back in the swing of things.. References: <3C480628.9553.659302C2@localhost> Message-ID: <001601c1a051$bfe16760$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> As always you can get a custom list from our geocaching.snaptek.com page. You can either get a list of everything right off the front page, or you can click on team stats and then find your team and click on that. Then right at the top of the page you can click on various file formats that you can import into a ton of programs that will tell you what caches you have found and not found already. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek ----- Original Message ----- > Greetings fellows, i'm awake again and back in caching, anyone > have a current list of AZ caches (TOPO/txt/Magellen file formats > would be best) > > thanks :) > > "People hate fur more than leather because it's easier to pick on > rich old women, than on biker gangs" > > Lasivian - lasivian@usa.net - ICQ# 3619356 > www.fastq.com/~lasivian > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 18:51:30 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 11:51:30 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby References: Message-ID: <00c701c1a051$24c3ee60$b1520d82@qwest.net> you know how it goes... rules are rules and laws are laws what can i say I am in law enforcement... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baja Fleg" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby > Wow and I thought I was the trouble maker. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Libby, > > (1) Is all you ever do is complain and cry? I received nothing but > complaints from you when I moved your traveller Basco from a Phoenix area > cache to a San Diego cache and corrected the traveller number that you > incorrectly wrote on it. I received nothing but complaints when I started > my Mad World cache because you viewed it as unfair to you. I received only > complaints from you because I simply repeated your statement in two listserv > posts that your friend has logged cache finds on your geocaching id without > your presence. And I've received only complaints from you in my attempt to > solicit advice on moving Courage towards its intended goal east. What is > your problem? Please try to be more positive and constructive. > > (2) My placement of Courage in Cholla Forest tomorrow morning is a > Phoenix-area cache. It's placement there is in agreement with KenH's email > late last night in which he asked to keep Courage in Phoenix a little > longer. It's also in agreement with the rules he stated in the cache which > said to move it east. Cholla forest is on a longitude that is east of the > longitude of the cache where I originally found him. It is a Phoenix-area > cache, easily accessible by most geocachers in the Phoenix area. It is > rated 3-stars or less as KenH requests in the cache description. The only > thing I have violated from KenH's requests (both email and cache > description) is that I will have held it continuously for 48 hours instead > of 24 hours. (I received KenH's email last night after I sent the listserv > message that spelled out the reasons I was taking it to Tucson. I have had > email problems with my ISP this week in which email has arrived 24 hours > late.) > > (3) Please don't insinuate that I'm violating KenH's directions and intent > with Courage. Please post his email if it makes you happy. To suggest that > his email requested something else is wrong. > > -srdrake > > >wolfb8/libby cried: > >I was copied when Ken wrote you about his wishes... If you like i will > post > >it to the list...... Why not just follow is wishes.... > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 18 20:02:38 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Eric Quinn) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 12:02:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020118200238.14838.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> You left so we needed a new one. --- Baja Fleg wrote: > Wow and I thought I was the trouble maker. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 02:45:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:45:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ideas for Courage Message-ID: <3C48DDAC.3EA8B7D7@primenet.com> I placed Courage in the Cholla Forest cache at 9:30 AM today. I gave directions and information on the hike in the Hiding Courage cache. As long as Courage is staying in the Pheonix area (50 mile radius = 83,000 square miles... Hey, I did the Math Cache today!), I thought of a few things that may help this cache successfully reach NYC. (1) Someone take it to Tucson. (Ok, I hope I have you laughing now!) (2) I added $5 to it. I suspect that others may also. It's probably not good to send Courage on if a lot of cash is filling it up. If you get Courage and there's more than $30 in cash inside and you have the time, take the cash to your credit union or bank and get a cashiers check in that amount to go in the cache. A cashiers check is a little more secure against theft. It'll also help the contents to remain a little more organized. (3) Ken's initial cashiers check and the $5 bill I added are loose in the plastic bag. As everyone who touches it will look at the contents, there's a great likelihood that the cashiers check(s) will get bent, folded and slowly mutilated. If Courage makes it into your hands and you have the opportunity, some sort of money wallet could be added to protect the cashiers check(s) from mutilation. I thought of these after I left Courage at Cholla Forest. I've copied KenH on this listserv message since he told me via email that he doesn't subscribe to it. Perhaps these suggestions can be considered for inclusion into Courage's description. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 03:39:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Larry Farquhar) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:39:21 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Email address Change Message-ID: Off Topic... I know many of you have my personal Email address. Since I'm a Cox Internet user, my Email address changed today. Please use my new address of: lfar@cox.net Thanks! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 16:45:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jeff Moriarty) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ultimate Geocaching Vehicle References: Message-ID: <003c01c1a108$c92d15f0$0201a8c0@KONG> Larry, your Jeep is pretty impressive but if you want to be the Elite of the Elite you need one of these: http://www.maximog.com j. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 16:39:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:39:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby References: <00c701c1a051$24c3ee60$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <004101c1a107$db0893e0$7d207418@Pradley> Hi Libby, Wow, I didn't know you were in law enforcement (I didn't know what you did, I suppose) What type and what department/city? I'm a "retired" (read: burned out!) registered nurse (ER). I've had alot of dealings with cops.....thru work, not on the receiving end! including being married to a DPS officer. It's interesting to see what people do in their "non-cache" lives! :-) ~~trisha "Lightning" ----- Original Message ----- From: "wolfb8" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Wolfb8/Libby > you know how it goes... rules are rules and laws are laws what can i say I > am in law enforcement... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 15:55:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 08:55:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ultimate Geocaching Vehicle References: <003c01c1a108$c92d15f0$0201a8c0@KONG> Message-ID: <002501c1a101$a986af60$b1520d82@qwest.net> lol but it not yellow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Moriarty" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:45 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ultimate Geocaching Vehicle > Larry, your Jeep is pretty impressive but if you want to be the Elite of the > Elite you need one of these: http://www.maximog.com > > j. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 18:54:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:54:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ultimate Geocaching Vehicle Message-ID: <20020119.115417.-684925.0.peakbagger2@juno.com> And following a link from the below, here's the perfect toy for those into both flying model airplanes and using gps. Maybe it could be programmed to locate and film several cache locations for viewing before the actual trip. Anyone have a few extra thousand $$ to spend on this sport? On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:45:46 -0700 "Jeff Moriarty" writes: > Larry, your Jeep is pretty impressive but if you want to be the Elite > of the > Elite you need one of these: http://www.maximog.com > > j. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 18:55:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:55:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Ultimate Geocaching Vehicle Message-ID: <20020119.115534.-684925.1.peakbagger2@juno.com> Sorry, I forgot to include the link. http://www.maximog.com/uav.html On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:45:46 -0700 "Jeff Moriarty" writes: > Larry, your Jeep is pretty impressive but if you want to be the Elite > of the > Elite you need one of these: http://www.maximog.com > > j. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 19 19:59:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 12:59:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache Message-ID: <001c01c1a123$cb6f97a0$5a207418@Pradley> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1A0E9.1D97DB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the "In Search of the Great = Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 and I don't want = to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please advise... thanks ~~trisha "Lightning" ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1A0E9.1D97DB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the "In = Search of=20 the Great Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 and I = don't=20 want to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please=20 advise...
thanks
~~trisha "Lightning"
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C1A0E9.1D97DB40-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 20 02:53:24 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:53:24 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache References: <001c01c1a123$cb6f97a0$5a207418@Pradley> Message-ID: <008701c1a15d$a174c760$b1520d82@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C1A122.F4C20300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes trisha it is still active....be sure to check out other near by = caches when you do it you may be happy you did ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Trisha Radley=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the "In Search of the = Great Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 and I don't = want to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please advise... thanks ~~trisha "Lightning" ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C1A122.F4C20300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes trisha it is still active....be = sure to check=20 out other near by caches when you do it you may be happy you = did
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Trisha=20 Radley
To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek= .com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 19, = 2002 12:59=20 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great = Pumpkin=20 cache

Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the = "In Search=20 of the Great Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 = and I=20 don't want to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please=20 advise...
thanks
~~trisha = "Lightning"
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C1A122.F4C20300-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 20 04:34:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 21:34:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache References: <001c01c1a123$cb6f97a0$5a207418@Pradley> <008701c1a15d$a174c760$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <001301c1a16b$bda711a0$6f207418@Pradley> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1A131.10340A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks libby! Did you get my other question, or did you just not want to = answer? Just curious ~~trisha ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wolfb8=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache Yes trisha it is still active....be sure to check out other near by = caches when you do it you may be happy you did ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Trisha Radley=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Great Pumpkin cache Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the "In Search of the = Great Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 and I don't = want to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please advise... thanks ~~trisha "Lightning" ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1A131.10340A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks libby! Did you get my other question, or did = you just=20 not want to answer? Just curious
~~trisha
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 wolfb8
To: az-geocaching@listserv= .snaptek.com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 19, = 2002 7:53=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] = Great=20 Pumpkin cache

Yes trisha it is still active....be = sure to check=20 out other near by caches when you do it you may be happy you = did
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Trisha=20 Radley
To: az-geocaching@listserv= .snaptek.com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 19, = 2002 12:59=20 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] = Great Pumpkin=20 cache

Hi Libby or anybody, can someone tell me if the = "In Search=20 of the Great Pumpkin" cache is still active? The last log was 10/30 = and I=20 don't want to do it (and the "40 miles") if it is gone....please=20 advise...
thanks
~~trisha=20 "Lightning"
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1A131.10340A80-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 20 17:31:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jeff Moriarty) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:31:05 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Haiku Message-ID: <001201c1a1d8$45d8d290$0201a8c0@KONG> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1A19D.91125640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trust our guide Garmin Suspicious rock pile, a hole Reach in... Ow! Cactus! ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1A19D.91125640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trust our guide Garmin
Suspicious rock pile, a = hole
Reach in... Ow! =20 Cactus!
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1A19D.91125640-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 00:41:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:41:56 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Haiku Message-ID: <177.269b01a.297cbdd4@aol.com> Oh no... don't even get me started with **another** diversion! -n4/c- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 02:09:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:09:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Funny Story Message-ID: <3C4B785D.C9FA3033@primenet.com> Friday morning, soon after I had gotten on the trail for my Cholla Forest and Other Side of the Needle adventure, I passed a group of 20 senior citizens who were doing the 9 mile loop hike. As I was passing them, I heard one woman comment to another, "He must be a geocacher." I looked like any normal hiker, with a daypack on my back and my GPS around my neck. I guess our hobby has hit the mainstream of society. The sight of a GPS means geocaching. Or, that senior citizen could be one of our snowbird geocachers! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 03:32:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Tierra Buena) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:32:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Be Gentle With Us... Message-ID: <000601c1a22c$43d33360$026fa8c0@OUR> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A1F1.97745B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...We've never done this before: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=13306 But we welcome your comments, suggestions, etc. Hope you enjoy it. Steve Team Tierra Buena ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A1F1.97745B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
...We've never=20 done this before:
 
http= ://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3D13306=
 
But we = welcome=20 your comments, suggestions, etc. Hope you enjoy it.
 
Steve
Team = Tierra=20 Buena
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A1F1.97745B60-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 05:04:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 22:04:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Most Accurate Geocaching Definition Message-ID: <3C4BA151.84177E58@primenet.com> I was reading through logs and came upon one that was entered on LoHi today. It's the most accurate definition of geocaching I've ever seen. "It's like hiking, except you actually want to do it!" From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 15:07:23 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Brown) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:07:23 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Now this is a BUFPUT.... Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C1A28D.54C241F0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1A28D.54C241F0" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A28D.54C241F0 Content-Type: text/plain The ultimate Geocaching vehicle... The new Ford Desert Excursion. Note the built-in GPSR on the dash. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A28D.54C241F0 Content-Type: text/html Message
 The ultimate Geocaching vehicle...  The new Ford Desert Excursion.  Note the built-in GPSR on the dash.
 
 
 
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Message-ID: Howdy, If we do an out of state cache... will it count toward caches found on the Arizona Geocache.snaptek.com rankings? Thanks, Scott N. arizcowboy@hotmail.com Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 18:42:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 11:42:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] out of state cache finds official? Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A0C0@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Yes. Looking at the Team Stats, the first column (Found) is just for Arizona finds. The 2nd column (Adjusted) adjusts if you found your own cache. The 3rd column (Out of State) is finds outside of Arizona, and the 4th column (Web Total) is your grand total (all states), which will match the geocaching.com total. Larry Farquhar -----Original Message----- From: Scott Nicol [mailto:arizcowboy@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:13 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] out of state cache finds official? Howdy, If we do an out of state cache... will it count toward caches found on the Arizona Geocache.snaptek.com rankings? Thanks, Scott N. arizcowboy@hotmail.com Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 19:43:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:43:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] out of state cache finds official? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If we do an out of state cache... will it count toward caches found on the > Arizona Geocache.snaptek.com rankings? Well, yes and no. As Larry said, the total number of caches will be represented in the web total column, but the out of state caches won't be factored in on any of the other columns because the other columns are based on information that is gathered by only looking at the caches placed in arizona. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 21:54:22 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 14:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Cache GC3385 Archived Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A0E0@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> Looks like Srdrake got lucky. He was the only one to find this cache, then the cache is now archived. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 21 23:32:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 16:32:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Very cool new features Message-ID: I just finished adding the ability to show team stats between and date you want with the additional ability to narrow the search down to specific teams at the same time. This should make it much easier for teams that are just getting started to find themselves in the stats without having to go though a ton of pages. Now you can look at how team A compares to team B between july, 1st 2001 and december 25th 2001!!! The dates also now transfer over to the line graph, so you can get a graph of that exact data as well instead of the entire life span of a team like before. I've also corrected the error on the page with a single teams stats so that if they havent found anything or havent hidden anything that you dont get a big nasty error. Thankyou to the person that pointed that error out. I'm sorry, I can't remember who you are off the top of my head, but it sure makes my life easier when people point out the bugs. Brian Cluff Team snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 00:21:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Very cool new features Message-ID: bite tongue, bite tongue, bite tongue. ----Original Message Follows---- I just finished adding the ability to show team stats between and date you want with the additional ability to narrow the search down to specific teams at the same time. This should make it much easier for teams that are just getting started to find themselves in the stats without having to go though a ton of pages. Now you can look at how team A compares to team B between july, 1st 2001 and december 25th 2001!!! The dates also now transfer over to the line graph, so you can get a graph of that exact data as well instead of the entire life span of a team like before. I've also corrected the error on the page with a single teams stats so that if they havent found anything or havent hidden anything that you dont get a big nasty error. Thankyou to the person that pointed that error out. I'm sorry, I can't remember who you are off the top of my head, but it sure makes my life easier when people point out the bugs. Brian Cluff Team snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 00:39:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:39:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Cache GC3385 Archived Message-ID: <3C4CB4BE.34794030@primenet.com> Yea, lucky I was. Lucky that you were in Tucson for the weekend! Sunday I had two first finds to new caches. On both counts I was surprised to be there first. I arrived at the Phoenix Open cache at 10 AM and the Baseball Bug at around 11 AM. The guy who hid the traveller there had intended to turn the cache into a virtual cache after the traveller had been found. But, then he realized that the Cooked Cache was about 30-40 feet away, so I guess he decided to archive it. I really wish the cache for the Cooked Cache would be removed and that it would be changed into a virtual cache. The site has a sign saying that it's an archaeological site and to please not disturb the place. Every time someone goes looking for the Cooked Cache, I imagine that rocks get moved all over the place. I know I've been to some cache sites where I just start tossing rocks aside looking for the elusive cache. -srdrake >Looks like Srdrake got lucky. He was the only one to find this cache, then >the cache is now archived. > >Larry Farquhar >Team "Wyle E" >www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 00:42:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 17:42:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Very cool new features Message-ID: <3C4CB572.78A87EA8@primenet.com> Brian, how about an automatic weighting factor that automatically divides Wyle E's caches found by 2. Wait, 2 isn't a big enough number because he'd still have more caches found than me... I see he hit #250 today! -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 02:48:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:48:15 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Very cool new features Message-ID: <7c.219c10ce.297e2cef@aol.com> Regarding the statement by Brian: "I've also corrected the error on the page with a single teams stats so that if they haven't found anything or haven't **hidden** anything that you don't get a big nasty error." (emphasis mine) I noticed that, but I was too embarrassed to point it out... :) n4/c, soon-to-be ex-non-hider of caches... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 02:51:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:51:53 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Very cool new features Message-ID: <12.1910f615.297e2dc9@aol.com> Hey... srdrake's comment got me thinking... we could handicap teams, like in golf! Don't yellow jeeps with nasty vertical-capable suspensions factor into that somehow? He hee... >:) -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 04:05:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:05:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Very cool new features In-Reply-To: <7c.219c10ce.297e2cef@aol.com> Message-ID: > I noticed that, but I was too embarrassed to point it out... :) I should be the one thats embarrassed. I'm the one that made a very obvious mistake..... and then left it in for a long long time after I knew about it :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 05:04:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 22:04:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] test In-Reply-To: <001201c1a1d8$45d8d290$0201a8c0@KONG> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1A2C7.A4B80700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is only a test. My Email address changed, and I haven't gotten any new AZ geocache mail lately. This is only a test. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1A2C7.A4B80700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 is only a test. My Email address changed, and I haven't gotten any new = AZ=20 geocache mail lately. This is only a test.
 

Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com

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Message-ID: Howdy, I went out this afternoon to run some errands and decided to go for a few urban caches. I drove by 3 of them today and didnt even stop to do them. I think I know right where they are at.. but, didnt stop as there was just way to many people around to go for them. They were all in city parks. The ASU Research Park one had not only people around, but, there are buildings around it with windows that you cant see in.. but, you know they are looking out at you! These 3 caches I drove by are, in my opinion, night time cache finds only and will go back at night to find them sometime soon. I went to the airport to pick someone up on an arrival around 5:45pm today and tried for a few around Tempe/Papago Park as well. I did get two in the Papago Park area. I drove by A mountain but didnt make the climb. Way to many people on the trail. Just to afraid I would get up there and not be able to retreive the cache and log in without being seen. There is also Sparky's Cache. I drove within 500 feet of that one and it looks like it is right in amongst the buildings! That is surely a fun cache to get if you like doing 'undercover' type work and the feeling that comes with it! I do. But, again.. dont want to chance being seen and chancing someone taking the cache. I was looking at the logs of the ones that I drove past but didnt do and see they were all had during the day today. Not sure how. I wasnt about to. I just didnt want to blow it and have someone see me. There is way to high of a risk of these urban caches being found by a non-geocacher and being taken. I think it is important to return the property around the cache to its very original state. In otherwords, dont step on bushes for one. I have seen several caches that have alot of bushes around them trampled on. That is not only a sure sign of where a cache is hidden to another geocacher.. but, is also not a very positive thing for the property owners to see. This can surely put geocaching, in that persons eyes, as a very negative thing. Also, if you move rocks, I think it is very important to put them back exactly as found and not strew them out around the area. To keep the place looking exactly like it was before you arrived is very important. One example is the 'sign of the past' cache I visited this afternoon in Papago Park. Right around the immediate area of the cache, there are obvious signs of pedestrian activity. In most desert parks.. it is illegal to walk off a trail or path. Some even have signs reading to that effect. The area around this particular cache has obvious signs of the area being disrupted of its natural state. Again, if a park ranger were to see this.. they would greatly frown upon the sport of geocaching. I propose this... I think that any urban caches should have a limit of say 30 days perhaps. After that, they archive. That will limit the chance it will be found by a non cacher. I think 30 days is plenty of time for anyone that wants to go for that cache to get it. When I refer to urban caches.. I mean the ones that are in parks and/or surrounded by houses. The makeout mnt cache, for instance.. I dont consider a true urban cache. But, I have seen caches in very populated parks and right amongst neighborhoods. I dont think these caches shouldnt be hid in these spots.. they are great for a quickie after work or something and are also good for the youngsters in the geocaching families. But, how about limiting the time these caches are stashed? Eventually, they will be found by a non-geocacher and will either be stolen or damaged. The logs need to be recovered to prove that someone actually was there and didnt just log their visit to move them up in ranking or just show they have X number of caches. Where they really there? No way to tell unless the log is recovered. (I do think we are all honest about that though, afterall, this IS just for fun). Also, I think that all geocaches should use 'official' geocaching cases. These appear to be the small green ammo boxes with the official geocaching stickers on the side and the paperwork contained within explaining what it is. I am starting to see several caches that were contained in pint size paint cans and tupperware containers and such. If someone saw this.. it could be percieved as trash (litter) and we all want to keep our lands clean. The official ammo boxes look much more professional. These ammo cases cost very little and can be had at a military surplus store or from a dealer of geocache merchandise. If you archive your urban cache after say 30 days.. you will be more likely to still have it there to be retrieved and the same case used for another cache. Professionalism is another thing. I dont think the paint cans and such give the sport of geocaching a very professional image. People will think we are a bunch of litterbugs hiding paint cans and stuff in our national forests and city parks, etc. Again, they could very well be percieved as trash in a non-geocachers mind. Also, if the cache containers remain consistant (all ammo boxes), as the sport becomes more mainstream... non cachers might begin to recognize the typical geocache container and perhaps understand what it is there for and not disrupt it if they should stumble upon it. I know if I saw a paint can in a nice clean local park, I wouldnt think to highly of who ever put it there. I know what it is there for as I am a geocacher and see no problem with it. I am just trying to put myself in a non cachers shoes and considering their thoughts. On the other hand... if I saw a nice clean small ammo box with a nice clean 'official geocache' sticker on the side.. I would perceive it as something of higher value. I am not trying to preach anything here. I am sure this is stuff most of us have already heard. These are just thoughts from a new member of the geocaching family. I now have 15 finds ranging from easy and quick urban caches to hard to get to caches like the Lone Pine cache on top of 4 peaks. Myself and my teamies are enjoying our new found hobby and want to see the sport grow and keep a positive image. I think most will agree with me on this. We have been geocaching now since the first week of January and greatly enjoying the excercise the sport has brought us! (I really need it!). ;) Thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts on the subject. Scott Team Ropingthewind Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 06:53:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 23:53:42 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... References: Message-ID: <000801c1a311$87e221c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> thank you for your opinion but I will continue to use my camo( I enjoy painting them) paint cans if this oftens you please do not look for my caches.... They are all paint cans only the size differs. libby wolfb8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Nicol" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:44 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... > > Howdy, > > I went out this afternoon to run some errands and decided to go for a few > urban caches. I drove by 3 of them today and didnt even stop to do them. I > think I know right where they are at.. but, didnt stop as there was just way > to many people around to go for them. They were all in city parks. The ASU > Research Park one had not only people around, but, there are buildings > around it with windows that you cant see in.. but, you know they are looking > out at you! > > These 3 caches I drove by are, in my opinion, night time cache finds only > and will go back at night to find them sometime soon. > > I went to the airport to pick someone up on an arrival around 5:45pm today > and tried for a few around Tempe/Papago Park as well. I did get two in the > Papago Park area. I drove by A mountain but didnt make the climb. Way to > many people on the trail. Just to afraid I would get up there and not be > able to retreive the cache and log in without being seen. There is also > Sparky's Cache. I drove within 500 feet of that one and it looks like it is > right in amongst the buildings! That is surely a fun cache to get if you > like doing 'undercover' type work and the feeling that comes with it! I do. > But, again.. dont want to chance being seen and chancing someone taking the > cache. I was looking at the logs of the ones that I drove past but didnt do > and see they were all had during the day today. Not sure how. I wasnt about > to. I just didnt want to blow it and have someone see me. > > There is way to high of a risk of these urban caches being found by a > non-geocacher and being taken. I think it is important to return the > property around the cache to its very original state. In otherwords, dont > step on bushes for one. I have seen several caches that have alot of bushes > around them trampled on. That is not only a sure sign of where a cache is > hidden to another geocacher.. but, is also not a very positive thing for the > property owners to see. This can surely put geocaching, in that persons > eyes, as a very negative thing. Also, if you move rocks, I think it is very > important to put them back exactly as found and not strew them out around > the area. To keep the place looking exactly like it was before you arrived > is very important. One example is the 'sign of the past' cache I visited > this afternoon in Papago Park. Right around the immediate area of the cache, > there are obvious signs of pedestrian activity. In most desert parks.. it is > illegal to walk off a trail or path. Some even have signs reading to that > effect. The area around this particular cache has obvious signs of the area > being disrupted of its natural state. Again, if a park ranger were to see > this.. they would greatly frown upon the sport of geocaching. > > I propose this... I think that any urban caches should have a limit of say > 30 days perhaps. After that, they archive. That will limit the chance it > will be found by a non cacher. I think 30 days is plenty of time for anyone > that wants to go for that cache to get it. When I refer to urban caches.. I > mean the ones that are in parks and/or surrounded by houses. The makeout mnt > cache, for instance.. I dont consider a true urban cache. But, I have seen > caches in very populated parks and right amongst neighborhoods. I dont think > these caches shouldnt be hid in these spots.. they are great for a quickie > after work or something and are also good for the youngsters in the > geocaching families. But, how about limiting the time these caches are > stashed? Eventually, they will be found by a non-geocacher and will either > be stolen or damaged. The logs need to be recovered to prove that someone > actually was there and didnt just log their visit to move them up in ranking > or just show they have X number of caches. Where they really there? No way > to tell unless the log is recovered. (I do think we are all honest about > that though, afterall, this IS just for fun). > > Also, I think that all geocaches should use 'official' geocaching cases. > These appear to be the small green ammo boxes with the official geocaching > stickers on the side and the paperwork contained within explaining what it > is. I am starting to see several caches that were contained in pint size > paint cans and tupperware containers and such. If someone saw this.. it > could be percieved as trash (litter) and we all want to keep our lands > clean. The official ammo boxes look much more professional. These ammo cases > cost very little and can be had at a military surplus store or from a dealer > of geocache merchandise. If you archive your urban cache after say 30 days.. > you will be more likely to still have it there to be retrieved and the same > case used for another cache. > > Professionalism is another thing. I dont think the paint cans and such give > the sport of geocaching a very professional image. People will think we are > a bunch of litterbugs hiding paint cans and stuff in our national forests > and city parks, etc. Again, they could very well be percieved as trash in a > non-geocachers mind. Also, if the cache containers remain consistant (all > ammo boxes), as the sport becomes more mainstream... non cachers might begin > to recognize the typical geocache container and perhaps understand what it > is there for and not disrupt it if they should stumble upon it. I know if I > saw a paint can in a nice clean local park, I wouldnt think to highly of who > ever put it there. I know what it is there for as I am a geocacher and see > no problem with it. I am just trying to put myself in a non cachers shoes > and considering their thoughts. On the other hand... if I saw a nice clean > small ammo box with a nice clean 'official geocache' sticker on the side.. I > would perceive it as something of higher value. > > I am not trying to preach anything here. I am sure this is stuff most of us > have already heard. These are just thoughts from a new member of the > geocaching family. I now have 15 finds ranging from easy and quick urban > caches to hard to get to caches like the Lone Pine cache on top of 4 peaks. > Myself and my teamies are enjoying our new found hobby and want to see the > sport grow and keep a positive image. I think most will agree with me on > this. We have been geocaching now since the first week of January and > greatly enjoying the excercise the sport has brought us! (I really need > it!). ;) > > Thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts on the subject. > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/safwp > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 07:37:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:37:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I went out this afternoon to run some errands and decided to go for a few > urban caches. I drove by 3 of them today and didnt even stop to do them. I > think I know right where they are at.. but, didnt stop as there was just way > to many people around to go for them. They were all in city parks. The ASU > Research Park one had not only people around, but, there are buildings > around it with windows that you cant see in.. but, you know they are looking > out at you! You have to take into account that it is a holiday and there will be a lot more people in these urban areas. When I have done urban caches in the past, most places were usually almost totally deserted. If they arent, well thats what makes an urban cache difficult. You might have to come back later when there is less people or at least few enough that you can grab it and place it while nobody is looking. Also, except for the first urban cache (Metro Pecan). All the urban caches that I have been too have been extremely well hidden. You could be right on top of it and hardly see it. If you weren't a geocacher actually looking for something in the general area, you probably wouldn't find it. > property around the cache to its very original state. In otherwords, dont > step on bushes for one. I have seen several caches that have alot of bushes > around them trampled on. That is not only a sure sign of where a cache is I haven't seen too much of this. When I have seen trampled bushes there were a lot of other bushes in the area that were also trampled. My guess at the time was that it was peoples dogs, or kids playing in the bushes as their were bushes trampled way too far away from the cache to be a reasonalbe place for people to be looking. As for nonurban caches, the most I have seen is foot prints. > geocaching families. But, how about limiting the time these caches are > stashed? Eventually, they will be found by a non-geocacher and will either > be stolen or damaged. The logs need to be recovered to prove that someone > actually was there and didnt just log their visit to move them up in ranking > or just show they have X number of caches. Where they really there? No way > to tell unless the log is recovered. (I do think we are all honest about > that though, afterall, this IS just for fun). There really isn't a good reason to "cheat". There really isn't any recongnition for getting a higher number that someone else other than a couple of congratulations when you hit certain mile stones. There is also a bit of check in the system where other people go to the caches after you have logged them, sooner of later people would figure out that you hadn't actually been there. I would hate to loose on a cache that I had hidden. After it's filled up, it's your little keepsake of your cache, but other than that, the most important thing when your all done is that you did it. > Also, I think that all geocaches should use 'official' geocaching cases. > These appear to be the small green ammo boxes with the official geocaching > stickers on the side and the paperwork contained within explaining what it > is. I am starting to see several caches that were contained in pint size > paint cans and tupperware containers and such. If someone saw this.. it > could be percieved as trash (litter) and we all want to keep our lands > clean. The official ammo boxes look much more professional. These ammo cases > cost very little and can be had at a military surplus store or from a dealer > of geocache merchandise. If you archive your urban cache after say 30 days.. > you will be more likely to still have it there to be retrieved and the same > case used for another cache. I have to dissagree. In my opinion the amo cases make the best quality case to allow your cache to weather the elements the best, but any container that is water proof is fine as long as it is clearly marked on the outside what it is, be it by an official sticker or sharpee. I'll have to go look though the archived caches, but I have a feeling that an amo can is much more likely to be stolen than a tupperware container. You have to relise that amo cans are really cool when it comes to kids or teenagers. If they happen across on they are very likely to take it. They are very cheap, but to a kid that probably doesn't have any money, way to get to the store, or even knowledge of what store to get them to, they might as well be worth $100 each. I have heard of a couple of caches that had the contents dumped out and the amo can stolen.... at least they left the cache contents > is there for and not disrupt it if they should stumble upon it. I know if I > saw a paint can in a nice clean local park, I wouldnt think to highly of who > ever put it there. I know what it is there for as I am a geocacher and see > no problem with it. I am just trying to put myself in a non cachers shoes > and considering their thoughts. On the other hand... if I saw a nice clean > small ammo box with a nice clean 'official geocache' sticker on the side.. I > would perceive it as something of higher value. If people are hiding caches in public places out in the open, they deserve to have them stolen. Putting them in an amo can won't extend their life at all. Some people might read what it is and just decide to move it 50 feet of so just to be a jerk like with our freemont saddle cache, and with that cache it was extremely well hidden, luckily we found it and returned it to it's origional location. There is a certain amount of luck to hiding a cache, someone can put it out in the open and have it last for years and someone else can pretty much completely bury the cache in the middle of nowhere and have it stolen a week later. When that happens we just archive the cache and move on. > I am not trying to preach anything here. I am sure this is stuff most of us > have already heard. These are just thoughts from a new member of the > geocaching family. I now have 15 finds ranging from easy and quick urban > caches to hard to get to caches like the Lone Pine cache on top of 4 peaks. > Myself and my teamies are enjoying our new found hobby and want to see the > sport grow and keep a positive image. I think most will agree with me on > this. We have been geocaching now since the first week of January and > greatly enjoying the excercise the sport has brought us! (I really need > it!). ;) Welcome to geocaching, and the mailing list. Let us know if there is anything that we (team snaptek) can do to make your geocaching adventures a little easier. > Thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts on the subject. Thats what this mailing list is for.. thoughts, information, rants, ideas, announcments, tips, getting sevral teams together for joint adventures, repetedly saying you don't like the stats , bouncing ideas off us for new stats... anything... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 07:53:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:53:06 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... In-Reply-To: <000801c1a311$87e221c0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: > thank you for your opinion but I will continue to use my camo( I enjoy > painting them) paint cans if this oftens you please do not look for my > caches.... They are all paint cans only the size differs. I like your camo paint cans.... they are hard to see in bushes, even when you are right on top of them. (and inexpensive too) I tend to tell everyone I meet about geocaching, and have found that a lot of people that think it's a cool idea but dont have a GPS tend to give me amo cans that they run across that arent being used. Bach fest II (appears to be stolen) was one of those as well as the 2 in my truck. Go with what ya got....... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 12:48:44 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 05:48:44 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... Message-ID: <3C4D5FAC.ECD9582A@primenet.com> 1. Most trampling of vegetation probably comes from nighttime seeking of the urban caches. When people can see, they're more careful where they step. 2. There are many urban caches that have existed for many months without disappearing. I believe Canal Cache is closing in on its 1 year anniversary. 3. Urban caches are great for families with kids, people with limited ability to hike, a little diversion before and after work, and yellow jeeps that need a rest from the vigors of the off-road. 4. I see you elicited the typical negative wolfb8/Libby response. Congratulations! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 14:19:15 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 07:19:15 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... References: <3C4D5FAC.ECD9582A@primenet.com> Message-ID: <005101c1a34f$c6c92760$8f207418@Pradley> << sigh>> geez, Stephen, can't you lay off of Libby? ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:48 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... > 1. Most trampling of vegetation probably comes from nighttime seeking of > the urban caches. When people can see, they're more careful where they > step. > > 2. There are many urban caches that have existed for many months without > disappearing. I believe Canal Cache is closing in on its 1 year > anniversary. > > 3. Urban caches are great for families with kids, people with limited > ability to hike, a little diversion before and after work, and yellow > jeeps that need a rest from the vigors of the off-road. > > 4. I see you elicited the typical negative wolfb8/Libby response. > Congratulations! > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 15:36:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:36:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... References: <3C4D5FAC.ECD9582A@primenet.com> Message-ID: <000601c1a35a$a0275180$b1520d82@qwest.net> > 4. I see you elicited the typical negative wolfb8/Libby response. > Congratulations! the next thing I see out of you about me.... I will delete every log you have made on any of my caches. And we will all watch your stats go down \ libby From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 15:51:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:51:39 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... References: <3C4D5FAC.ECD9582A@primenet.com> <000601c1a35a$a0275180$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <003501c1a35c$af246040$50207418@Pradley> can we all just get along. please? no need to be mean to each other....Stephen, as I said, if you could please just leave Libby alone....everybody is entitled to their opinion, you may think she is negative "all the time", but your constant criticism and put-downs about her are no better (VERY negative, DUH) and very tiresome. Please. ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "wolfb8" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: thoughts about urban geocaches... > > 4. I see you elicited the typical negative wolfb8/Libby response. > > Congratulations! > > > the next thing I see out of you about me.... I will delete every log you > have made on any of my caches. And we will all watch your stats go down > \ > libby > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 16:37:21 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:37:21 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A363.10A4CC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden in the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website, it is not there. The bush was pretty trampeled too. Per Stephen's prediction last month, I fear it is MIA. Jason, I'm sure the permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence of the cache! We looked around the nearby bushes too, just in case we were off or it had been slightly moved, but no luck. Mabye they were Beethoven fans.... BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site? Is it any good? It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage... Rob Team CHUMP ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A363.10A4CC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252"
Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden
in the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website,
it is not there.  The bush was pretty trampeled too.  Per Stephen's
prediction last month, I fear it is MIA.   Jason, I'm sure the
permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence
of the cache!
 
We looked around the nearby bushes too, just in case we were off
or it had been slightly moved, but no luck.  Mabye they were Beethoven
fans....
 
BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site?  Is it
any good?  It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage...
 
Rob
Team CHUMP
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A363.10A4CC50-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 16:48:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:48:32 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A0F7@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A364.A01125E0 Content-Type: text/plain We ate at the Miner's Camp restaurant when we found the cache. It was very good - a unique experience. We also went back for Thanksgiving. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Bell, Robert [mailto:Robert.Bell@eclipsys.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:37 AM To: 'Geocaching List Serv' Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden in the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website, it is not there. The bush was pretty trampeled too. Per Stephen's prediction last month, I fear it is MIA. Jason, I'm sure the permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence of the cache! We looked around the nearby bushes too, just in case we were off or it had been slightly moved, but no luck. Mabye they were Beethoven fans.... BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site? Is it any good? It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage... Rob Team CHUMP ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A364.A01125E0 Content-Type: text/html Message
We ate at the Miner's Camp restaurant when we found the cache. It was very good - a unique experience. We also went back for Thanksgiving.
 
Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.azjeeper.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bell, Robert [mailto:Robert.Bell@eclipsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:37 AM
To: 'Geocaching List Serv'
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II

Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden
in the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website,
it is not there.  The bush was pretty trampeled too.  Per Stephen's
prediction last month, I fear it is MIA.   Jason, I'm sure the
permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence
of the cache!
 
We looked around the nearby bushes too, just in case we were off
or it had been slightly moved, but no luck.  Mabye they were Beethoven
fans....
 
BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site?  Is it
any good?  It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage...
 
Rob
Team CHUMP
 
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A364.A01125E0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 17:07:08 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:07:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden > in the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website, > it is not there. The bush was pretty trampeled too. Per Stephen's > prediction last month, I fear it is MIA. Jason, I'm sure the > permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence > of the cache! The bush was actually fairly trampled when we hid the cache. We probably should have picked a better spot, but it was pitch black outside and we really couldn't find a better place that was close by and be sure that we have permission. There might be a chance that Steve, the manager of the restaurant, might have had the cache "turned it" as lost and found, but I'm not going to hold my breath. We probably need to go out there and check it out... How disappointing. We'll have to restore the cache no matter what, so that it can't possibly affect his marriage :) Plus that chunk of the chain cache probably needs to be restored as well. > BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site? Is it > any good? It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage... The restaurant is excellent. It is an all you can eat place, but not a buffet. It's got some of the best ribs in town. They are so tender that you can usually just poke the bones out of the meat with your finger and then just eat pure meat without much trouble. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 18:05:54 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Nicol) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:05:54 -0800 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] My thoughts about urban geocaches...revisited Message-ID: Howdy All, Thanks for the responses to my post. I got a few private responses as well as publicly on the list. Looks like it is about 50/50%. All the comments so far have been thoughtful and not negative. Thanks. I just wanted to express my thoughts on the subject. As far as urban caches go... no, I dont think they should be done away with. I never stated that either. I just want to be rest assured they will be protected and cachers will act in such a away as to protect their exsistance. I agree, most urban caches are very well hidden. If you didnt know what you were looking for.. you would probably never find it. I have seen a couple that were in plain site though. I do indeed think urban caches are fun. As I said before, I do like that 'stealth mode' feel when going for one. There is a certain challenge that goes along with finding a particular urban cache. I personally prefer to go for an urban cache at night only. I will drive by it in the day and perhaps make a drive or walk past it and get a good idea of where it is... in that bush over there, or under that tree, etc. Then, come back at night when no one is around and go for the log! There is definetly a place for urban caches. Just need to be careful in placing them and hiding them well. I do agree that the urban caches are great for the families with children or those that cant hike longer distances or thru rugged terrain and for the other cachers, they are great quickies after work or during lunch. They can be had on the way to work or to run an errand. I think that is great. I do think that there is a right time of day and a wrong time to go for a particular urban cache. Depending on several variables of course. How many people around, how close to a major road, etc. The parkandcache cache, I thought, was a nighttime only find. I am sure there are those that got that one in the day and it is still there... so, must have been ok. I drove by it probably 2 or 3 times and didnt stop as there were way to many people in the park or the fact that it was right next to a major road. My thoughts were that someone will surely see me. I would probably look very suspicious at the very least. So, we came back at night and got that one (and it was VERY well hidden. I walked by it twice before finding it!). A week ago, I had my nephew in town. So, I figured having the kids along on an urban cache in a park would certainly look a lot less 'suspicious'. So, I brought them along and introduced them to the sport of geocaching! You should see the look on his face when the container is opened! :) LOL I guess I should get married and have children! As far as type of container... I agree with Brian Cluffs comments. He brings up some good points. He is probably right... an ammo box is probably more likely to be taken than a tupperware container or a paint can. I am just trying to think like a non-geocacher and what they might think if they should see a geocache container. Either way, I would hope they would read what it says and what the container stands for and let it be. I cannot understand why someone would want to spoil someone elses fun. But, there are some sick people out there with nothing better to do with their time than to do just that. I did see a great cache location that I thought was very creative. The cache container was totally put below ground level (in the ground) and only the lid exposed. The lid is only an inch high or so and can be easily hidden and covered up with leaves, etc. I thought that was great. An ammo can cannot be put in the ground like that as the lid opener is on the side of the container. So, other containers can work great. I just think they need to be neat and look clean and professional and not look like garbage or something. As far as Libby's posting goes... no, your paint cans do not offend me. If you read my post again, you will see that I stated that I dont have a problem with them. I am just trying to think like a non-geocacher and what they may view it as. If you like using paint cans... go for it. I have no problem with that. I do think there is a more professional look to an ammo box. However, as stated above and from other postings... the ammo cans can have their downsides. Sometimes, other cantainers do work better. I am a hot air balloon pilot and I deal with landowner relations each and every time I fly. It is a subject that hits very close to home. I go where the wind goes and when it is time to land... well, it is time to land. Wherever that may be. Might be public land, might be private property. I have never had a negative reaction to one of my landings on private land as we usually are able to get quick permission before landing. Otherwise, I carry the proper permits ie: state trust land (which doubles as a geocache permit!, etc. If not, we just try and leave the land in the same, or better, condition then it was before we arrived. Usually then, the landowner sees no problem with our landing there as we didnt dissrupt his property in any way. This would also include not driving the chase vehicle on grass, rather carrying the equiptment out to the truck (even though it all weighs over 600lbs!). This would also include not cutting fences to get a truck in. Simply carry the equiptment up and over and out. We want to keep the landowners were we fly happy and want them to welcome us with a smile.. not a shotgun! My team and I will go to great lengths to assure that it remains that way. Not to change the subject there. But, I see some similarities with ballooning and geocaching in terms of landowner situations. Either sport can be very positively viewed or very negetively, depending on how the balloonist or cacher plays his game. These were just some thoughts that I thought I would express here on the list. That is what this list is for! By us all saying out loud what is on our minds... will help the sport of geocaching grow. We all will dissagree with something someones says eventually, but, looks for the positives in it and then make your suggestions. That is what the list is for. Sometimes, two 'ok' ideas can turn into one 'great' idea! I thank those that responded so far. There are probably alot more people on this list that are quite and never post. If no one ever says what is on their mind.. the sport will never grow. PS... Brian, nope. Just try and make it more difficult! :) LOL Also, I love your stats pages. Very well done. I can see there is a lot of time and effort put into a web page like that. The effort is very much appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work! Scott N. arizcowboy@hotmail.com Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page http://www.geocities.com/safwp _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 18:11:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Farquhar, Larry) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:11:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II Message-ID: <5EDEA14A2792394EA7D482E702C4C6DBC2A0FD@ipnismtp1.ipni.com> This "Chain Cache" link was taken care of a couple weeks ago. This link in the chain has been included as a note on the chain cache log. It became a freeebie (one less link to look for). After I made the log entry, I realized I should have just created a new link at a different cache. Oh well - the chain cache is one link shorter now. Sorry to hear this cache might be gone. Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Cluff [mailto:brian@snaptek.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:07 AM To: 'Geocaching List Serv' Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Bach Fest II > Brian, just to let you know for sure, assuming the cache was hidden in > the bush that was in the photograph of you all on your website, it is > not there. The bush was pretty trampeled too. Per Stephen's > prediction last month, I fear it is MIA. Jason, I'm sure the > permanence of the marriage is in no way related to the permanence of > the cache! The bush was actually fairly trampled when we hid the cache. We probably should have picked a better spot, but it was pitch black outside and we really couldn't find a better place that was close by and be sure that we have permission. There might be a chance that Steve, the manager of the restaurant, might have had the cache "turned it" as lost and found, but I'm not going to hold my breath. We probably need to go out there and check it out... How disappointing. We'll have to restore the cache no matter what, so that it can't possibly affect his marriage :) Plus that chunk of the chain cache probably needs to be restored as well. > BTW, has anyone eaten at the restaurant at this cache site? Is it any > good? It looked like it had a fair amount of patronage... The restaurant is excellent. It is an all you can eat place, but not a buffet. It's got some of the best ribs in town. They are so tender that you can usually just poke the bones out of the meat with your finger and then just eat pure meat without much trouble. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 19:06:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... Message-ID: <20020122.120649.-777983.6.peakbagger2@juno.com> Scott I'm glad to see thoughtful notes like this. Geocaching is still a very new and small activity and I don't think there is much chance of a problem at its present size. My concerns are for the future when this sport is MUCH larger than it is now, a high probability in my opinion. While we may be able to ignore the issues you expressed at the present, we need to be watchful for the problems that growth will bring. My personal concern is not so much about urban caches but for those placed on open public National Forest and BLM lands. These areas are already suffering from forces such as cattle grazing, mining and certain inappropriate destructive off-road recreational activities. My special concern is for caches placed in designated wilderness areas where "Take only pictures, leave only footprints" is the rule. I'm a die hard tree hugger Sierra Club life member if you haven't guessed by now. I also love this sport and want to see it continue. Again, we don't need to worry at the present but more regulation is inevitable when this grows to some critical mass. Let's keep occasionally discussing this topic. Jerry-Offtrail On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 21:44:08 -0800 "Scott Nicol" writes: > > Howdy, > > I went out this afternoon to run some errands and decided to go for > a few > urban caches. I drove by 3 of them today and didnt even stop to do > them. I > think I know right where they are at.. but, didnt stop as there was > just way > to many people around to go for them. They were all in city parks. > The ASU > Research Park one had not only people around, but, there are > buildings > around it with windows that you cant see in.. but, you know they are > looking > out at you! > > These 3 caches I drove by are, in my opinion, night time cache finds > only > and will go back at night to find them sometime soon. > > I went to the airport to pick someone up on an arrival around 5:45pm > today > and tried for a few around Tempe/Papago Park as well. I did get two > in the > Papago Park area. I drove by A mountain but didnt make the climb. > Way to > many people on the trail. Just to afraid I would get up there and > not be > able to retreive the cache and log in without being seen. There is > also > Sparky's Cache. I drove within 500 feet of that one and it looks > like it is > right in amongst the buildings! That is surely a fun cache to get if > you > like doing 'undercover' type work and the feeling that comes with > it! I do. > But, again.. dont want to chance being seen and chancing someone > taking the > cache. I was looking at the logs of the ones that I drove past but > didnt do > and see they were all had during the day today. Not sure how. I > wasnt about > to. I just didnt want to blow it and have someone see me. > > There is way to high of a risk of these urban caches being found by > a > non-geocacher and being taken. I think it is important to return the > > property around the cache to its very original state. In otherwords, > dont > step on bushes for one. I have seen several caches that have alot of > bushes > around them trampled on. That is not only a sure sign of where a > cache is > hidden to another geocacher.. but, is also not a very positive thing > for the > property owners to see. This can surely put geocaching, in that > persons > eyes, as a very negative thing. Also, if you move rocks, I think it > is very > important to put them back exactly as found and not strew them out > around > the area. To keep the place looking exactly like it was before you > arrived > is very important. One example is the 'sign of the past' cache I > visited > this afternoon in Papago Park. Right around the immediate area of > the cache, > there are obvious signs of pedestrian activity. In most desert > parks.. it is > illegal to walk off a trail or path. Some even have signs reading to > that > effect. The area around this particular cache has obvious signs of > the area > being disrupted of its natural state. Again, if a park ranger were > to see > this.. they would greatly frown upon the sport of geocaching. > > I propose this... I think that any urban caches should have a limit > of say > 30 days perhaps. After that, they archive. That will limit the > chance it > will be found by a non cacher. I think 30 days is plenty of time for > anyone > that wants to go for that cache to get it. When I refer to urban > caches.. I > mean the ones that are in parks and/or surrounded by houses. The > makeout mnt > cache, for instance.. I dont consider a true urban cache. But, I > have seen > caches in very populated parks and right amongst neighborhoods. I > dont think > these caches shouldnt be hid in these spots.. they are great for a > quickie > after work or something and are also good for the youngsters in the > > geocaching families. But, how about limiting the time these caches > are > stashed? Eventually, they will be found by a non-geocacher and will > either > be stolen or damaged. The logs need to be recovered to prove that > someone > actually was there and didnt just log their visit to move them up in > ranking > or just show they have X number of caches. Where they really there? > No way > to tell unless the log is recovered. (I do think we are all honest > about > that though, afterall, this IS just for fun). > > Also, I think that all geocaches should use 'official' geocaching > cases. > These appear to be the small green ammo boxes with the official > geocaching > stickers on the side and the paperwork contained within explaining > what it > is. I am starting to see several caches that were contained in pint > size > paint cans and tupperware containers and such. If someone saw this.. > it > could be percieved as trash (litter) and we all want to keep our > lands > clean. The official ammo boxes look much more professional. These > ammo cases > cost very little and can be had at a military surplus store or from > a dealer > of geocache merchandise. If you archive your urban cache after say > 30 days.. > you will be more likely to still have it there to be retrieved and > the same > case used for another cache. > > Professionalism is another thing. I dont think the paint cans and > such give > the sport of geocaching a very professional image. People will think > we are > a bunch of litterbugs hiding paint cans and stuff in our national > forests > and city parks, etc. Again, they could very well be percieved as > trash in a > non-geocachers mind. Also, if the cache containers remain consistant > (all > ammo boxes), as the sport becomes more mainstream... non cachers > might begin > to recognize the typical geocache container and perhaps understand > what it > is there for and not disrupt it if they should stumble upon it. I > know if I > saw a paint can in a nice clean local park, I wouldnt think to > highly of who > ever put it there. I know what it is there for as I am a geocacher > and see > no problem with it. I am just trying to put myself in a non cachers > shoes > and considering their thoughts. On the other hand... if I saw a nice > clean > small ammo box with a nice clean 'official geocache' sticker on the > side.. I > would perceive it as something of higher value. > > I am not trying to preach anything here. I am sure this is stuff > most of us > have already heard. These are just thoughts from a new member of the > > geocaching family. I now have 15 finds ranging from easy and quick > urban > caches to hard to get to caches like the Lone Pine cache on top of 4 > peaks. > Myself and my teamies are enjoying our new found hobby and want to > see the > sport grow and keep a positive image. I think most will agree with > me on > this. We have been geocaching now since the first week of January > and > greatly enjoying the excercise the sport has brought us! (I really > need > it!). ;) > > Thanks for allowing me to express my thoughts on the subject. > > Scott > Team Ropingthewind > > Scotts Adventure Flying Web Page > http://www.geocities.com/safwp > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 20:25:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:25:07 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D74@srp.gov> Scott, I'm the opposite of Jerry as I'm a Rush Limbaugh-listening, big-mouthed, let's open up the Alaska wilderness, pro-NRA conservative. Yet, I agree with most of what Jerry states about where and how to place caches. I think all caches should be placed in places such that the influx of geocachers doesn't harm the area or bring unwanted attention to our hobby. A cache should be placed in places such that if I can't find it, me tossing rocks out of the way won't harm the area. I think caches should be placed as close as posible to established trails so that new trails aren't created by cache seekers. Of the 91 caches I've found in AZ, only 2 caches I question the placement of. -srdrake From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 21:06:26 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:06:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... In-Reply-To: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D74@srp.gov> Message-ID: > I think all caches should be placed in places such that the influx of > geocachers doesn't harm the area or bring unwanted attention to our hobby. > A cache should be placed in places such that if I can't find it, me tossing > rocks out of the way won't harm the area. I think caches should be placed > as close as posible to established trails so that new trails aren't created > by cache seekers. I always try and disturb as little as possible while I'm caching by gently pushing aside plants if I feel I need to look under them so that I don't break branches and making sure that I'm not stepping on anything that will leave a permanant mark. I evn try not to leave foot prints if possible so that the next cacher doesn't have any clue as to where to find the cache. When placing caches I tend to look for places that won't have anything taking the same exact route every time so as not to create a new trail right to the cache. Meaning that if I put it off the trail, I put it way off the trail so that there isn't an obvious place to turn off and start looking. If I did anything different, I would see myself as destroying the game I love so much. I wish there was a real cache karma for the stats that would show the cachers that destroy the country side looking for, or placing a cache. Luckily, I don't think I have really seen any signs of people that are abusing the game. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 22 21:42:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jerry Nelson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:42:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] thoughts about urban geocaches... Message-ID: <20020122.144228.-777983.7.peakbagger2@juno.com> Rush Lim......anti-Alaska.....pro NR.......(gasp!!) Now I see why my find rate has gone down since our trip to Table Mesa. The Conservative jinx! Jerry On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:25:07 -0700 srdrake@srpnet.com writes: > Scott, > I'm the opposite of Jerry as I'm a Rush Limbaugh-listening, > big-mouthed, > let's open up the Alaska wilderness, pro-NRA conservative. Yet, I > agree > with most of what Jerry states about where and how to place caches. > I think all caches should be placed in places such that the > influx of > geocachers doesn't harm the area or bring unwanted attention to our > hobby. > A cache should be placed in places such that if I can't find it, me > tossing > rocks out of the way won't harm the area. I think caches should be > placed > as close as posible to established trails so that new trails aren't > created > by cache seekers. > Of the 91 caches I've found in AZ, only 2 caches I question the > placement of. > > -srdrake > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 00:43:06 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:43:06 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Silly Mountain Sililoquies Message-ID: <3C4E071A.C05BC2BD@primenet.com> Go take a look at the logs for the Silly Mountain Sililoquies. Someone entered one that they found an urn of ashes buried in the rocks at the site of the cache. Amusing in a weird sort of way... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 00:48:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:48:39 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage has left Arizona Message-ID: <3C4E0867.C4084E40@primenet.com> Courage has apparently left Arizona. Peasinapod got Courage yesterday morning and took him to New York City this afternoon via airline. Peasinapod is a Captain with one of the airlines. He'll be delivering Courage to the proper people tomorrow. Kind of ironic, huh? 4-5 days ago some were upset because I planned on taking Courage to a cache in Tucson. At KenH's request, I placed him in a Phoenix-area cache. Peasinapod is the next person to find Courage and the rest is history. The irony is... I can't come up with the right words. I'm glad Courage has apparently close to reaching its goal. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 02:03:02 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ken) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:03:02 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Name Change Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A377.6A9B4180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, We were just told of your web site a few days ago. Great site and = thanks for all of the hard work!!! After geocaching for a few months my = family hated my original screen name of KenH. Actually now that I think = about it, it is pretty unoriginal. After many days of discussion the = family has decided that we would like to be known as WhereRwee?. This = seems to be a more accurate description of our adventures in geocaching. = Please feel free to substitute our new name in place of KenH. We = appreciate all of your hard work and really enjoy looking at the data = you provide. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C1A377.6A9B4180-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 03:27:01 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:27:01 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] How about more stats on the caches or travelers? References: <3C4E0867.C4084E40@primenet.com> Message-ID: <004001c1a3bd$d2a59d20$6501a8c0@Home> It seems like there are a lot of stats about the geocaching teams, but I'd be interested in seeing more about the caches themselves. How about average finds per month for each cache or a graph of finds per month? The travelers are becoming more popular. Maybe if Snaptek counted the number of travelers picked up by a team or the average time a team kept a traveler, the travelers would become more popular. Anyone have any other ideas? Thanks, Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 04:41:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:41:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or travelers? Message-ID: <3C4E3EE0.F04649EF@primenet.com> Jerry, That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Although finding geocaches is obsessive enough of a hobby, I don't want to start challenging myself to see how many travellers I can find. For the past week I've been toying with the idea of making a permanent Traveller cache. I'd start the cache with a logbook (of course) and 3 travellers (I would get from other caches). Then each person, to log a successful visit, would need to bring another Traveller and exchange it for one of the Travellers in the cache. Of course I'd need to be sure if the geocaching.com website would work tracking 3 travellers in a single cache. The person visiting would have the challenge of nabbing a traveller before he/she could visit, then have the choice of which traveller to take (depending upon each traveller's goals). I think such a cache would work for awhile, but over time I think the travellers would disappear and non-traveller items would eventually fill the cache. With my White Elephant Cache having specific rules, I've found 1 or 2 visitors have totally ignored the rules and treated it like a normal cache. And one person in the log even complained that the cache had too many rules. (It has I think 4.) I'm sure at some point I'll need to go to this cache, clean it out and restart it with a single White Elephant gift. Well, my mind has been cranking thinking of unique cache ideas. That's one of them. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 05:18:48 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:18:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] How about more stats on the caches or travelers? In-Reply-To: <004001c1a3bd$d2a59d20$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: > It seems like there are a lot of stats about the geocaching teams, but I'd > be interested in seeing more about the caches themselves. > > How about average finds per month for each cache or a graph of finds per > month? Ask and you shall recieve... it's there, just look on the individual cache page. > The travelers are becoming more popular. Maybe if Snaptek counted the > number of travelers picked up by a team or the average time a team kept a > traveler, the travelers would become more popular. I'd like to do travelers, but since they travel, we would have to do all of them, and thats where the problem is. That would create a ton of traffic on both our site and the geocaching site. If we can think of some other way to do it, or get Jeremy to just hand us some data, them we can look into it, but untile then....... Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 05:55:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 22:55:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] How about more stats on the caches or travelers? References: Message-ID: <000901c1a3d2$922d8180$6501a8c0@Home> Wow, that was quick! Thanks, Brian! You know, when you respond that fast you raise the bar for yourself. BTW, you might want to check the Mixed up cache, there is an SQL error on that page. Nobody's prefect. ;-) Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Cluff" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] How about more stats on the caches or travelers? > > It seems like there are a lot of stats about the geocaching teams, but I'd > > be interested in seeing more about the caches themselves. > > > > How about average finds per month for each cache or a graph of finds per > > month? > > Ask and you shall recieve... it's there, just look on the individual > cache page. > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 06:05:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:05:47 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or travelers? References: <3C4E3EE0.F04649EF@primenet.com> Message-ID: <000f01c1a3d4$00b76de0$6501a8c0@Home> Stephen, I like the idea of a Traveler only cache. Perhaps near a major highway, like some have suggested in the past. I've seen caches with multiple travelers in them before, so I think the web site can handle it just fine. Maybe people will start a traveler just to log the cache. Start it soon and maybe I can beat Wyle E to it. I've got one Traveler (Coleman) and three empty tags sitting here on my desk just waiting for you. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or travelers? > Jerry, > That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Although finding > geocaches is obsessive enough of a hobby, I don't want to start > challenging myself to see how many travellers I can find. > For the past week I've been toying with the idea of making a > permanent Traveller cache. I'd start the cache with a logbook (of > course) and 3 travellers (I would get from other caches). Then each > person, to log a successful visit, would need to bring another Traveller > and exchange it for one of the Travellers in the cache. Of course I'd > need to be sure if the geocaching.com website would work tracking 3 > travellers in a single cache. The person visiting would have the > challenge of nabbing a traveller before he/she could visit, then have > the choice of which traveller to take (depending upon each traveller's > goals). > I think such a cache would work for awhile, but over time I think > the travellers would disappear and non-traveller items would eventually > fill the cache. With my White Elephant Cache having specific rules, > I've found 1 or 2 visitors have totally ignored the rules and treated it > like a normal cache. And one person in the log even complained that the > cache had too many rules. (It has I think 4.) I'm sure at some point > I'll need to go to this cache, clean it out and restart it with a single > White Elephant gift. > Well, my mind has been cranking thinking of unique cache ideas. > That's one of them. > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 06:20:37 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:20:37 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] How about more stats on the caches or travelers? In-Reply-To: <000901c1a3d2$922d8180$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: > BTW, you might want to check the Mixed up cache, there is an SQL error on > that page. Nobody's prefect. ;-) It was an error caused by any cache with quote markes in it.... all fixed. Thanks for the bug report. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 01:48:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:48:07 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Courage has left Arizona In-Reply-To: <3C4E0867.C4084E40@primenet.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020122184628.00a5d660@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 05:48 PM 1/22/2002 -0700, you wrote: >The irony is... I can't come up with the right words. I'm glad Courage >has apparently close to reaching its goal. I am too. I am a little sad that we never had a chance to see him down here. I had received a few private e-mails from folks who were really looking forward to seeing him in a few caches down here. Oh well, maybe next time. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 18:06:04 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:06:04 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or tra velers? Message-ID: Great minds think alike. I have almost finished the travelers only cache I've been putting together, with one problem I've been working on resolving. How to discourage non-travelers or encourage travelers without making the cache be maintained manually? I think I have a solution, but I would like to hear some other creative solutions from this group... Rob Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: Team Cache-Quest [mailto:cache-quest@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 23:06 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or travelers? Stephen, I like the idea of a Traveler only cache. Perhaps near a major highway, like some have suggested in the past. I've seen caches with multiple travelers in them before, so I think the web site can handle it just fine. Maybe people will start a traveler just to log the cache. Start it soon and maybe I can beat Wyle E to it. I've got one Traveler (Coleman) and three empty tags sitting here on my desk just waiting for you. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Drake" To: "Geocaching Listserv" Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or travelers? > Jerry, > That's exactly what I was thinking yesterday. Although finding > geocaches is obsessive enough of a hobby, I don't want to start > challenging myself to see how many travellers I can find. > For the past week I've been toying with the idea of making a > permanent Traveller cache. I'd start the cache with a logbook (of > course) and 3 travellers (I would get from other caches). Then each > person, to log a successful visit, would need to bring another Traveller > and exchange it for one of the Travellers in the cache. Of course I'd > need to be sure if the geocaching.com website would work tracking 3 > travellers in a single cache. The person visiting would have the > challenge of nabbing a traveller before he/she could visit, then have > the choice of which traveller to take (depending upon each traveller's > goals). > I think such a cache would work for awhile, but over time I think > the travellers would disappear and non-traveller items would eventually > fill the cache. With my White Elephant Cache having specific rules, > I've found 1 or 2 visitors have totally ignored the rules and treated it > like a normal cache. And one person in the log even complained that the > cache had too many rules. (It has I think 4.) I'm sure at some point > I'll need to go to this cache, clean it out and restart it with a single > White Elephant gift. > Well, my mind has been cranking thinking of unique cache ideas. > That's one of them. > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 19:53:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:53:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Wandering Wilson Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020123124934.00a56a10@mail.myblueheaven.com> We gave Wandering Wilson a lift to California this past weekend. Thanks Cache-Quest, this was out first time finding a travel bug out in the wild. Since this was the first one we have found, I have been keeping an eye on it. Seems to be moving around nicely out there in the Lake Elsinore/Temecula California area around I-15. The reason I bring this up is that I notice that Wilson has already been used as the original contents in a new cache in Temecula. Our first bug was Upee and it has been the original contents in at least 3, and maybe 4 caches so far between Arizona and Hawaii. I am amazed as how people seem to create new caches to hide a bug in. Do you think it is a just a coincidence and that they are already working on the bug, or is the bug the motivation for the cache? If the bug is the motivation, maybe that is how to get more caches into a specific area. :-) Scott Team My Blue Heaven www.myblueheaven.com/geocache From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 20:14:53 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:14:53 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: How about more stats on the caches or tra velers? Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787D83@mx1> Rob, I think regardless of what rules you sepcify for a cache, some people will ignore the rules and treat it like a normal cache. In the vein of a traveller only cache (permanent cache used to trade/exchange travellers), there are caches based on a specific theme (snow, christmas, big boys toys, etc.). With the themed caches, you can visit and simply not make a trade if you aren't prepared to follow the theme. If you set up a traveller-only cache, you'd need to decide whether someone could have a successful visit if they simply signed the log book or whether exchanging one traveller for another is required. With a traveller cache, you can, via your computer, know who is and who isn't following the rules of exchanging one traveller for another. It would take some effort, but you could match up traveller movement with the cache visits. I don't think you'd really need to worry about the cache running out of carrying several travellers for people to use for exchanges. I think the geocaching community would watch and maintain it with their regular visits. I'm sure that if someone arrived and found the cache only contained 1 traveller, he/she may leave their traveller and not take a traveller. Likewise, if the cache becomes filled with non-traveller trinkets, regular geocache visitors could remove those to keep the cache tidy. I believe that 95% of geocachers would follow the rules and assist in their visits of helping maintain the cache in working order with their visits. >Great minds think alike. I have almost finished the travelers only >cache I've been putting together, with one problem I've been working >on resolving. How to discourage non-travelers or encourage travelers >without making the cache be maintained manually? I think I have a >solution, but I would like to hear some other creative solutions >from this group... > >Rob >Team CHUMP From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 23 23:52:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:52:05 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Username Change Message-ID: Guess I missed something. I knew user "KenH" changed their name to "WhereRWee" (cute), but I wasn't aware user "Srdrake" is now "Taekwandoman". Farewell KenH and SrDrake - Welcome WhereRWee and Taekwandoman! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 24 04:38:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Username Change Message-ID: <3C4F8FB4.40B5D7E1@primenet.com> Taking Ken's lead, I decided to be an identity a little more creative than my name. Here are some identities I rejected: Wyle F n5/c wolfb9 Trail Gypsum cbx3 Team C.H.A.M.P. Green Heaven Fabio >Guess I missed something. I knew user "KenH" changed their name to >"WhereRWee" (cute), but I wasn't aware user "Srdrake" is now "Taekwandoman". > >Farewell KenH and SrDrake - Welcome WhereRWee and Taekwandoman! > >Larry Farquhar >Team "Wyle E" >www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 24 23:14:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:14:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Archived Cache Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020124161349.00a5b7c0@mail.myblueheaven.com> Out of the Ballpark (GC2F8A) was archived today. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 16:02:07 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:02:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking Message-ID: <20020125160207.43788.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> I finally got a round to scanning the photos from the cache-cam and posted them to the cache page. There are a few I couldn't identify. If you know who they are. let me know. Bob ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 16:29:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:29:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking References: <20020125160207.43788.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000501c1a5bd$77bf1ce0$6501a8c0@Home> Bob: Picture A09 is Team Cache-Quest - Dan & Meagan. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Renner" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking > I finally got a round to scanning the photos from the > cache-cam and posted them to the cache page. There > are a few I couldn't identify. If you know who they > are. let me know. > > Bob > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 16:45:34 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:45:34 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking In-Reply-To: <000501c1a5bd$77bf1ce0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: Bob, A07 is Kristen and Jeremy Ed Philpott -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Team Cache-Quest Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:30 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking Bob: Picture A09 is Team Cache-Quest - Dan & Meagan. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Renner" To: Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking > I finally got a round to scanning the photos from the > cache-cam and posted them to the cache page. There > are a few I couldn't identify. If you know who they > are. let me know. > > Bob > > ===== > . > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 18:29:40 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Baja Fleg) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:29:40 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking Message-ID: Where are the rest of them? Are they going to get posted to the website? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 19:01:29 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:01:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020125190129.63908.qmail@web9006.mail.yahoo.com> That's all there is. I pulled the camera before the roll was done, so there 1-6 aren't there. Bob --- Baja Fleg wrote: > Where are the rest of them? Are they going to get > posted to the website? > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 19:35:45 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Nicol) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:35:45 -0800 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] :) Message-ID: I got a good chuckle from this find posting from the Prospector Mickeys cache in AJ. >>>December 8, 2001 I did this one after doing some caches on the Bush and >>>Beeline Hwys. A wonderful walk under the transmission lines. A nice >>>double-circuited 230kV on a lattice tower, a 69 kV on a lattice tower, >>>and a 69 kV on a wood pole. Be-yoo-tee-ful! I wonder what lives under the >>>cache. I took nothing and left nothing.<<< Now, there's a man who knows his powerlines!!! :) LOL Scott Team Ropingthewind _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 19:47:32 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:47:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020125194732.20245.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> The rest should be there now - A07 thru A25. I had a neuron problem on my end. Bob --- Baja Fleg wrote: > Where are the rest of them? Are they going to get > posted to the website? > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 21:42:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:42:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bug Cache Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A5E9.32895AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Just a quick thanks to everyone for their helpful hints regarding the Travel Bug cache idea. I've placed the cache and I expect it will be posted tomorrow. As everyone plans a cache-happy weekend, (what else would we be doing?) check for the cache "Have Bug, Will Travel". Geocache list serv members get first notice! I would give you all the coordinates, but the 2 travel bugs in it aren't logged yet, and the way the Chandler Mini cache logs are going from today, I fear the bugs would be 3 or or caches along before I got them entered! Anyways, thanks to everyone for their input. Happy hunting! Rob Team CHUMP ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A5E9.32895AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252"
Just a quick thanks to everyone for their helpful hints regarding
the Travel Bug cache idea.  I've placed the cache and I expect
it will be posted tomorrow.  As everyone plans a cache-happy
weekend, (what else would we be doing?) check for the cache
"Have Bug, Will Travel".  Geocache list serv members get first
notice!     I would give you all the coordinates, but the 2 travel bugs
in it aren't logged yet, and the way the Chandler Mini cache logs
are going from today, I fear the bugs would be 3 or or caches along
before I got them entered!
 
Anyways, thanks to everyone for their input.  Happy hunting!
 
Rob
Team CHUMP
 
 
 

 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A5E9.32895AB0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Fri Jan 25 23:07:41 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:07:41 EST Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Travel Bug Cache Message-ID: Great, Rob - I'm looking forward to your cache being placed! I have a Travel Bug (SisKetchup) ready to be placed within... -Mike- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 00:13:09 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bill Burkett) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:13:09 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #217 - 5 msgs References: <200201251905.MAA24849@ns2.sequoia.net> Message-ID: <006601c1a5fe$3dc6cec0$6501a8c0@phnx2.az.home.com> What fun! Thanks for taking the trouble to post all those photos, Bob! > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:02:07 -0800 (PST) > From: Bob Renner > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Pictures for A Grand Undertaking > Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > > I finally got a round to scanning the photos from the > cache-cam and posted them to the cache page. There > are a few I couldn't identify. If you know who they > are. let me know. > > Bob From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 02:19:12 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:19:12 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: :) Message-ID: <3C521220.C164EF48@primenet.com> Thank you, thank you. I know my transmission lines!!!! I just don't know my varmints. >I got a good chuckle from this find posting from the Prospector Mickeys >cache in AJ. >>>December 8, 2001 I did this one after doing some caches on the Bush and >>>Beeline Hwys. A wonderful walk under the transmission lines. A nice >>>double-circuited 230kV on a lattice tower, a 69 kV on a lattice tower, >>>and a 69 kV on a wood pole. Be-yoo-tee-ful! I wonder what lives under the >>>cache. I took nothing and left nothing.<<< > >Now, there's a man who knows his powerlines!!! :) LOL > >Scott >Team Ropingthewind From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 07:44:39 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (cbx2) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 00:44:39 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May Message-ID: We (Team CBx2) are taking a poll. We are going to be down in Rock point Thr. May 16th and leaving Sun. the 19th. Wanted to know if any one is interested in joining us and making it an event cache. We stay at Mannies RV park. $ 16 to 18. a night per full hook up space. Can bring the RV or tent it. Water and Weather are great. They have 25 cent showers and a kitchen. Would this be the first AZ out of country event cache??? Would welcome your opions. Cody and Cheryl From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 19:04:05 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jeff Moriarty) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:04:05 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Limerick Message-ID: <002f01c1a69c$4155de20$0201a8c0@KONG> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1A661.8D0E55D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There once was a cache in Nantucket, Hidden in a taped up old bucket, You could be sure to be wet, If this cache you did get, Because under a lake the hider did tuck it! ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1A661.8D0E55D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There once was a cache in = Nantucket,
Hidden in a taped up old = bucket,
You could be sure to be = wet,
If this cache you did get,
Because under a lake the hider did tuck = it!
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C1A661.8D0E55D0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 20:15:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 13:15:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Limerick References: <002f01c1a69c$4155de20$0201a8c0@KONG> Message-ID: <3C530E7C.60CEE7B@snaptek.com> sweet!!!! that has inspired me to write a limeric too!!! jason Jeff Moriarty wrote: > There once was a cache in Nantucket,Hidden in a taped up old > bucket,You could be sure to be wet,If this cache you did get,Because > under a lake the hider did tuck it! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sat Jan 26 22:19:16 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 15:19:16 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Limerick References: <002f01c1a69c$4155de20$0201a8c0@KONG> Message-ID: <002001c1a6b7$7f3525a0$b7207418@Pradley> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1A67C.D175D340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There once was a man with a cache, To hide it so well, he did dash No one can locate it, So all did berate it, And the man laughed it off in a flash. The man, he gave out a slick clue; The seekers, still trying, were so blue Was the GPS wrong? Or the trip just too long? For the seekers, the cache to walk to? OK, somebody continue the story...... ~~trisha aka "Lightning" ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Moriarty=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Caching Limerick There once was a cache in Nantucket, Hidden in a taped up old bucket, You could be sure to be wet, If this cache you did get, Because under a lake the hider did tuck it! ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1A67C.D175D340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There once was a man with a cache,
To hide it so well, he did dash
No one can locate it,
So all did berate it,
And the man laughed it off in a flash.
 
The man, he gave out a slick clue;
The seekers, still trying, were so blue
Was the GPS wrong?
Or the trip just too long?
For the seekers, the cache to walk to?
 
OK, somebody continue the story......
 
~~trisha aka "Lightning"
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff = Moriarty=20
To: az-geocaching@listserv= .snaptek.com=20
Sent: Saturday, January 26, = 2002 12:04=20 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] = Caching=20 Limerick

There once was a cache in = Nantucket,
Hidden in a taped up old = bucket,
You could be sure to be = wet,
If this cache you did = get,
Because under a lake the hider did = tuck=20 it!
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1A67C.D175D340-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 27 15:19:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:19:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] wild burro and surpizzzzze cache References: <002f01c1a69c$4155de20$0201a8c0@KONG> <002001c1a6b7$7f3525a0$b7207418@Pradley> Message-ID: <001101c1a745$fac549a0$b1520d82@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A70B.4D956600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If no one finds the (easy way) right road in a few week I will give = direction to it. If you do find it please post the turn off. This is a = trip for 4x4 and buggy only ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A70B.4D956600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If no one finds the (easy way) right = road in a few=20 week I will give direction to it. If you do find it please post the turn = off.=20 This is a trip for 4x4 and buggy only
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C1A70B.4D956600-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Sun Jan 27 17:48:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Tierra Buena) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c1a75a$d618f6a0$026fa8c0@OUR> CBx2, We'd like to join you. Work commitments might prevent us from arriving until Friday. We would be tenting. We've only been to Rocky Point once, and didn't camp. Do you know how to find out what the rates are for tent sites, or do they all have hookups? Do they take reservations, Will we need them, and if so, what's the easiest way to make them? And, just curious, is Mannie's one of the RV parks on the main road north of town? Judi and Steve Team Tierra Buena > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com] On Behalf Of cbx2 > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:45 AM > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May > > > We (Team CBx2) are taking a poll. We are going to be down in > Rock point Thr. May 16th and leaving Sun. the 19th. Wanted to > know if any one is interested in joining us and making it an > event cache. We stay at Mannies RV park. $ 16 to 18. a night > per full hook up space. Can bring the RV or tent it. Water > and Weather are great. They have 25 cent showers and a > kitchen. Would this be the first AZ out of country event cache??? > > Would welcome your opions. > Cody and Cheryl > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 00:46:11 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:46:11 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] wild burro and surpizzzzze cache References: <002f01c1a69c$4155de20$0201a8c0@KONG> <002001c1a6b7$7f3525a0$b7207418@Pradley> <001101c1a745$fac549a0$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <003301c1a795$2ec7db60$b1520d82@qwest.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1A75A.8225DFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please not that the coor for surpizzze have been changed... my screw = up sorry ----- Original Message -----=20 From: wolfb8=20 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] wild burro and surpizzzzze cache If no one finds the (easy way) right road in a few week I will give = direction to it. If you do find it please post the turn off. This is a = trip for 4x4 and buggy only ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1A75A.8225DFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Please not that the  coor = for surpizzze=20 have been changed... my screw up sorry
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 wolfb8
To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek= .com=20
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 = 8:19=20 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] wild = burro and=20 surpizzzzze cache

If no one finds the (easy way) right = road in a=20 few week I will give direction to it. If you do find it please post = the turn=20 off. This is a trip for 4x4 and buggy=20 only
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C1A75A.8225DFE0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 14:18:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:18:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another Caching Limerick References: <000601c1a75a$d618f6a0$026fa8c0@OUR> Message-ID: <001501c1a806$a2c0d0a0$6501a8c0@Home> There once was a cacher from Gilbert, Who resembled the comic star Dilbert, A new cache he raced to see, But was beaten by Wyle E, So he felt like a bit of a Filbert. Jerry Team Cache-Quest From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 16:40:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:40:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another Caching Limerick References: <000601c1a75a$d618f6a0$026fa8c0@OUR> <001501c1a806$a2c0d0a0$6501a8c0@Home> Message-ID: <001001c1a81a$7fcf6980$3e207418@Pradley> good one! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Team Cache-Quest" To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Another Caching Limerick > There once was a cacher from Gilbert, > Who resembled the comic star Dilbert, > A new cache he raced to see, > But was beaten by Wyle E, > So he felt like a bit of a Filbert. > > Jerry > Team Cache-Quest > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 16:51:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:51:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great idea!! We would love to join you. We are checking our schedules to see if there are any other conflicts, if not we'll be there. We're not sure if we'll tent or bring the camper. Thanks. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of cbx2 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:45 AM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May We (Team CBx2) are taking a poll. We are going to be down in Rock point Thr. May 16th and leaving Sun. the 19th. Wanted to know if any one is interested in joining us and making it an event cache. We stay at Mannies RV park. $ 16 to 18. a night per full hook up space. Can bring the RV or tent it. Water and Weather are great. They have 25 cent showers and a kitchen. Would this be the first AZ out of country event cache??? Would welcome your opions. Cody and Cheryl _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 17:08:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:08:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] World Rankings Message-ID: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787DAB@mx1> The World rankings at the Swedish geocaching website have been updated as of 1/24/02. Here's a summary (for those intrested): http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/worldmain.htm 106 teams have found 100 or more caches. Rankings for AZ teams: #9 Team Wyle E #33 Cache-quest #54 Trail Gypsy #66 Cbx2 #72 Taekwondoman #81 Team TJ #86 N4/c #90 Bob Renner #92 Puccini (who are they?) If not interested, then please ignore this note... From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 18:51:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:51:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] World Rankings Message-ID: Arizona has ~9% of the top cachers in the world? Excellent!! How does Arizona rank among other states? BTW: Consider this fair warning : I intend to be the next AZ representative to hit 100 caches!! Rob Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: srdrake@srpnet.com [mailto:srdrake@srpnet.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:08 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] World Rankings The World rankings at the Swedish geocaching website have been updated as of 1/24/02. Here's a summary (for those intrested): http://www.m.kth.se/m95_bef/geo/worldmain.htm 106 teams have found 100 or more caches. Rankings for AZ teams: #9 Team Wyle E #33 Cache-quest #54 Trail Gypsy #66 Cbx2 #72 Taekwondoman #81 Team TJ #86 N4/c #90 Bob Renner #92 Puccini (who are they?) If not interested, then please ignore this note... _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 20:53:28 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (wolfb8) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:53:28 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] trip References: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787DAB@mx1> Message-ID: <003001c1a83d$d6bbfc40$b1520d82@qwest.net> Has anyone done any caching along I-5 in ca... I will be traveling it in a couple weeks ... Looking for easy cache to do long the way.. I will be pulling a horse trailer so they have to be pretty easy to access. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 22:27:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ken Henson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:27:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches Message-ID: I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 21:54:42 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:54:42 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches Message-ID: Ken, Personally, It would be hard for me to do a 6 or 7 part cache in Prescott since I don't live there. I can usually do a few when I visit, but a large multi cache would require several visits to the area. I suspect some people shy away from caches that require that many steps if they know that in advance because it requires such a committment. A few die hard cachers will love the change from the basic cache routine. my $.02 Rob Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: Ken Henson [mailto:lincoln@primenet.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 15:28 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 21:59:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:59:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] trip In-Reply-To: <003001c1a83d$d6bbfc40$b1520d82@qwest.net> References: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787DAB@mx1> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128145858.00a65a50@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 01:53 PM 1/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone done any caching along I-5 in ca... I will be traveling it in a >couple weeks ... Looking for easy cache to do long the way.. I will be >pulling a horse trailer so they have to be pretty easy to access. Haven't done any long I-5 but did hit a few along I-15 last weekend. In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 22:10:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:10:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] trip References: <5879D537BA82804196CBF74AAB59456D787DAB@mx1> <003001c1a83d$d6bbfc40$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: <004601c1a848$8f998840$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> > Has anyone done any caching along I-5 in ca... I will be traveling it in a > couple weeks ... Looking for easy cache to do long the way.. I will be > pulling a horse trailer so they have to be pretty easy to access. My guess would be that just about anything that is near I5 would be easy.... thats some majorly flat boreing land. Brian From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 22:14:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:14:47 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches References: Message-ID: <000d01c1a849$32bb4fe0$6501a8c0@Home> I've been planning something similar near Phoenix. A set of several related caches in a single area, each containing clues to one or more of the others. For what I'm planning there could be many different 'routes' among the caches. The further you got the more difficult it would become. Although I think they could all be done in a single day, I've been planning to do individual caches. Since there wouldn't be a set order and it would get increasingly difficult, I thought it would be better that way. >From a selfish standpoint, multiple caches would attract more attention to the set of caches because it would provide a nice boost to a visitor's stats. I'm planning the caches in a relatively remote area and I want to draw people to them. Jerry Team Cache-Quest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Henson" To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was > wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache > after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 22:40:13 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:40:13 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] trip In-Reply-To: <003001c1a83d$d6bbfc40$b1520d82@qwest.net> Message-ID: When searching for a geocache under keyword, try "I hate I-5" there are a ton of them and most of them are in CA, couple of others GC2C29, GC233A, GC1FF7 ed -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of wolfb8 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:53 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] trip Has anyone done any caching along I-5 in ca... I will be traveling it in a couple weeks ... Looking for easy cache to do long the way.. I will be pulling a horse trailer so they have to be pretty easy to access. _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 23:09:27 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Ed Philpott) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:09:27 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 6-7 is quite a few, but not impossible. I think several caches would be fun. Trail Gypsy -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Ken Henson Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 3:28 PM To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Mon Jan 28 23:41:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:41:51 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A agree with Rob. Placing a large multi-cache near Phoenix is different, as there's many more local cache hunters here than near Prescott. Even then, it still takes numerous weeks and dedication to finish one. I haven't finished a multi-cache in Tucson that I started (yet) because of the distance involved. My $.02 added to Rob's = $.04 Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Bell, Robert Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:55 PM To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches Ken, Personally, It would be hard for me to do a 6 or 7 part cache in Prescott since I don't live there. I can usually do a few when I visit, but a large multi cache would require several visits to the area. I suspect some people shy away from caches that require that many steps if they know that in advance because it requires such a committment. A few die hard cachers will love the change from the basic cache routine. my $.02 Rob Team CHUMP -----Original Message----- From: Ken Henson [mailto:lincoln@primenet.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 15:28 To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 01:31:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cody Ryan) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:31:56 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] "Out of the Ballpark"--GC2F8A (Tucson Area) Message-ID: Tina and I looked for this cache yesterday to no avail. I went in today to log the NO FIND and it is no longer listed. Does anyone have any information about this cache? Thanks, Cody >From: "Ed Philpott" >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: >Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches >Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:09:27 -0700 > >6-7 is quite a few, but not impossible. I think several caches would be >fun. > >Trail Gypsy > > >-----Original Message----- >From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com >[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Ken Henson >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 3:28 PM >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > > >I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was >wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache >after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Visit the Sierra Vista Elks Web Page at http://communities.msn.com/ElkShutterBug _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 02:50:51 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Cheryl Brown) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:50:51 +0000 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches Message-ID: Team CBx2 here, we vote for several 2 to 3 multi caches in place of the 6 to 7 sites. >From: Ken Henson >Reply-To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches >Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:27:58 -0700 (MST) > > >I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was >wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache >after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > >_______________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list >Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com >http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 03:27:50 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:27:50 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches References: Message-ID: <002001c1a874$ef460260$a0207418@Pradley> Either way is fine with me....and that will be great and alot of fun.... ~~trisha aka "Lightning" Yavapai Co. Jeep Posse Searchers, Prescott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Henson" To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was > wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache > after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 03:30:10 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:30:10 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches References: Message-ID: <002f01c1a875$4b6f2620$a0207418@Pradley> Rob, I agree that multi-caches that are not in your area can put some people off (time commitment).....I deal with that frustration all the time since it is nearly impossible for me to do any of multi-caches in the Phoenix area. I'd welcome a multi or chain cache up here, give some of us high-landers a chance! :-) ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bell, Robert" To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > Ken, > Personally, It would be hard for me to do a 6 or 7 part > cache in Prescott since I don't live there. I can usually > do a few when I visit, but a large multi cache would > require several visits to the area. > > I suspect some people shy away from caches that require > that many steps if they know that in advance because it > requires such a committment. A few die hard cachers will > love the change from the basic cache routine. > > my $.02 > Rob > Team CHUMP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Henson [mailto:lincoln@primenet.com] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 15:28 > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > > > I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was > wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache > after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 03:33:46 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:33:46 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches References: Message-ID: <004a01c1a875$c3066220$a0207418@Pradley> Same message as before, Larry, give those of us who live up here a chance for a fun cache.....if you can't do it due to time restraints, well, I know how you feel! ~~trisha ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > A agree with Rob. Placing a large multi-cache near Phoenix is different, as > there's many more local cache hunters here than near Prescott. Even then, it > still takes numerous weeks and dedication to finish one. I haven't finished > a multi-cache in Tucson that I started (yet) because of the distance > involved. > > My $.02 added to Rob's = $.04 > > Larry Farquhar > Team "Wyle E" > www.azjeeper.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com > [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.snaptek.com]On Behalf Of Bell, > Robert > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:55 PM > To: 'az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com' > Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > > Ken, > Personally, It would be hard for me to do a 6 or 7 part > cache in Prescott since I don't live there. I can usually > do a few when I visit, but a large multi cache would > require several visits to the area. > > I suspect some people shy away from caches that require > that many steps if they know that in advance because it > requires such a committment. A few die hard cachers will > love the change from the basic cache routine. > > my $.02 > Rob > Team CHUMP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Henson [mailto:lincoln@primenet.com] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 15:28 > To: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Question - Cache or Caches > > > > I am getting ready to place a chain cache in the Prescott area. I was > wondering if players would rather see several caches, or one large cache > after having to go to several (6 or 7) sites? - Lincoln > > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 03:58:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Scott Wood) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:58:17 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] "Out of the Ballpark"--GC2F8A (Tucson Area) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128205540.02724a60@mail.myblueheaven.com> At 01:31 AM 1/29/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Tina and I looked for this cache yesterday to no avail. I went in today >to log the NO FIND and it is no longer listed. Does anyone have any >information about this cache? It was archived about a week ago. The link to the cache is: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=12170 In liberty, Scott wood@myblueheaven.com www.myblueheaven.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 18:08:00 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:08:00 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Oscar the Grouch Cache Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C1A8EF.E3249480 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C1A8EF.E3249480" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A8EF.E3249480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" This happened awhile ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen it. Start at August 24 and read up for the full effect: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=1094 or GC 446. It is archived, so you must be logged in. Rob Team CHUMP ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A8EF.E3249480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This = happened awhile=20 ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen = it.
Start = at August 24=20 and read up for the full effect:
http= ://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3D1094=
or GC = 446.  It=20 is archived, so you must be logged in.

Rob
Team=20 CHUMP
 
 
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My=20 daughter went looking for this cache awhile back. The cache owner lives = nearby=20 and saw her and came explained what happened to her. It sounds like = someone in=20 the TV station saw a cache hunter near the cache and called the police. = Moral of=20 the story - don't hide caches near a TV station.
 
Larry = Farquhar
-----Original Message-----
From: = Bell, Robert=20 [mailto:Robert.Bell@eclipsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January = 29, 2002=20 11:08 AM
To: 'Geocaching List Serv'
Subject:=20 [Az-Geocaching] Oscar the Grouch Cache

This happened=20 awhile ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen=20 it.
Start at August 24=20 and read up for the full effect:
http= ://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3D1094=
or = GC 446. =20 It is archived, so you must be logged in.

Rob
Team=20 CHUMP
 
 
= ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1A8F1.65FE64C0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Tue Jan 29 18:33:33 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:33:33 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Oscar the Grouch Cache References: Message-ID: <001301c1a8f3$75164e80$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> This is another reason to clearly mark your geocaches as geocaches if you are going to put it in an amo can or some other container that looks like it has the potential to be an explosive.... Especially amo cans since their previous use was to hold explosives and they reek of military uses. Although from the logs it looked like it was at least marked with the geocaching website. Maybe we need to start writeing "This is not a bomb.. relax" Maybe ever... Do not detinate ,may contain puppies or other cute animals hehehe Maybe there is a market for clear lids from amo cans so that people can see inside them.... Thats a good idea..... I wonder if this is the first geocache to get blow up? :) Brian Cluff Team Snaptek ----- Original Message ----- > This happened awhile ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen it. > Start at August 24 and read up for the full effect: > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=1094 > > or GC 446. It is archived, so you must be logged in. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 30 01:35:17 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Bob Renner) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:35:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Rocky Point in May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020130013517.62431.qmail@web9010.mail.yahoo.com> Cody, I'd love to go, however, that date is right in the middle of both my sons' school finals. Maybe another time. Bob --- cbx2 wrote: > We (Team CBx2) are taking a poll. We are going to > be down in Rock point > Thr. May 16th and leaving Sun. the 19th. > Wanted to know if any one is interested in joining > us and making it an event > cache. We stay at Mannies RV park. $ 16 to 18. a > night per full hook up > space. Can bring the RV or tent it. Water and > Weather are great. They have > 25 cent showers and a kitchen. > Would this be the first AZ out of country event > cache??? > > Would welcome your opions. > Cody and Cheryl > > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > Az-Geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com > http://listserv.snaptek.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching ===== . __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 30 12:51:19 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Stephen Drake) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:51:19 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Miracles do occur Message-ID: <3C57EC47.E181A299@primenet.com> N4/c hid a cache. I'm expecting this to be covered on all the local news reports tonight. From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Wed Jan 30 03:49:14 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Trisha Radley) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Oscar the Grouch Cache References: Message-ID: <000201c1a9a8$ffe54560$8c217418@Pradley> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A906.69973660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow....can't believe they actually blew it up. Hopefully, my = obviously-Tupperware containers, hidden deep in forest and far from = civilizaion, will not meet the same fate by some (maybe understandably) = overly-cautious "Forest Ranger"....heh heh ehhhhhhhhhhh....... ~~trisha ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bell, Robert=20 To: 'Geocaching List Serv'=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Oscar the Grouch Cache This happened awhile ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen = it. Start at August 24 and read up for the full effect: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3D1094 or GC 446. It is archived, so you must be logged in. Rob Team CHUMP ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A906.69973660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow....can't believe they actually blew it up. = Hopefully, my=20 obviously-Tupperware containers, hidden deep in forest and far from = civilizaion,=20 will not meet the same fate by some (maybe understandably) = overly-cautious=20 "Forest Ranger"....heh heh ehhhhhhhhhhh.......
~~trisha
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bell,=20 Robert
To: 'Geocaching List = Serv'=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 = 11:08=20 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Oscar = the Grouch=20 Cache

This = happened=20 awhile ago, but interesting reading if you've never seen=20 it.
Start at August 24=20 and read up for the full effect:
http:= //www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=3D1094
or = GC 446. =20 It is archived, so you must be logged in.

Rob
Team=20 CHUMP
 
 
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A906.69973660-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 31 01:35:56 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Jason Poulter) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:35:56 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Stats!! Yet Again :) Message-ID: <3C589F7C.10C7BAF9@snaptek.com> added a couple new stats to the Cache Stats Page Days Old & Days Unfound have fun!!! latz jason From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 31 02:17:31 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:17:31 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Houseboat on Lake Powell? Message-ID: Connie and I have always wanted to spend a few days on Lake Powell in a Houseboat. I counted 7 caches on the lake, but haven't researched how accessible they are. Regardless, we thought it would be fun to spend some time exploring the lake. Of course, it's more fun to share the experience with others, as well as it keeps the cost down. Is anyone interested in joining us this Fall exploring Lake Powell and cache hunting? No firm plans have yet been made, but we're suggesting the following: Go in late September. We would like to travel and arrive on 9/23, be on the lake 4 days, and travel home 9/28. Rent a 59' luxury houseboat that sleeps 8 adults in 4 double permanent beds (no couch or table bed). Rent a 19' powerboat that sits 8 adults. A tag along for exploring the lake. Split the costs of boats, groceries, fuel, and other common items (ski's?, water tube?) for the 4 days on the lake. Each couple could make their own arrangements for the night before and after (camp or hotel). We would prefer to spend the week with Adults only. Of course, this is all preliminary now. I'm sure we'll need to be flexible. Based on the above preferences, the cost for the houseboat and powerboat would be about $670 per person for the 4 days on the lake (groceries and other stuff extra). Let me know if you're interested. We'll need to make a reservation and deposit real soon. The deposit will be around $100 per person. First come, first served. Hope you can join us! Larry Farquhar Team "Wyle E" www.azjeeper.com From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 31 19:06:58 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Team Cache-Quest) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:06:58 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] AZ Cache Log Quote of the Week References: <000601c1a75a$d618f6a0$026fa8c0@OUR> <001501c1a806$a2c0d0a0$6501a8c0@Home> <001001c1a81a$7fcf6980$3e207418@Pradley> Message-ID: <000701c1aa8a$751677a0$6501a8c0@Home> A quote from a cache log for Sneaky Peak http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.asp?ID=9579 "I just happened to have an afro wig in the backseat of my car" I carry a lot of crazy things around in my truck, but nothing like that! From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 31 21:13:47 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Holmes, Richard E.) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:13:47 -0500 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Stats!! Yet Again :) Message-ID: <73CF99DE8EACD211B6F4009027301F3001705CED@ntrema52.read.tasc.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AA9C.2BE7DBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How 'bout for each cache, percentage finds by non-Zonies. This would aid in placing "travelers." Dick Holmes Creepin' Jeepers ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AA9C.2BE7DBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

How ‘bout for each cache, percentage finds by non-Zonies. = This would aid in placing “travelers.”

 

=

Dick Holmes

Creepin’ Jeepers

------_=_NextPart_001_01C1AA9C.2BE7DBC0-- From az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com Thu Jan 31 22:33:52 2002 From: az-geocaching@listserv.snaptek.com (Brian Cluff) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:33:52 -0700 Subject: [Az-Geocaching] New Stats!! Yet Again :) References: <73CF99DE8EACD211B6F4009027301F3001705CED@ntrema52.read.tasc.com> Message-ID: <001201c1aaa7$5c97d800$1b00a8c0@sequoia.k12.az.us> > How 'bout for each cache, percentage finds by non-Zonies. This would aid in > placing "travelers." The only problem is that we don't know what teams are from what state or even country. The stats on our page are stats about the caches in arizona, not the teams in arizona. I would love to be able to do your suggested stat but I just don't have the information. Brian Cluff Team Snaptek