[Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)

loran @cox listserv@azgeocaching.com
Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:24:22 -0700


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Libby you just did that so Wyle can get credit for reaching 500 Arizona =
Finds again.

Team Sand Dollar
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  From: WOLFB8=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


   Just so you are not taken by surprise tomorrow when you look at your =
stats.. I have made a lot of my caches member only today..... so if you =
have some on your to-do list do not delete the waypoint since they will =
not be there=20

  I will make them public again when this blows over


  Libby

  We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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    From: Bob Renner=20
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:10 AM
    Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


    I found the newspaper article very one sided and blown
    way out of proportion.  I think it was written with
    the intent of grabbing attention and selling papers
    and not with the intent of providing true and accurate
    information.

    It did not mention if any of the archeologic sites
    were open to the public such as Libby's Casa Grande
    Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache at
    Sears-Kay ruins near Seven Springs.  If those are any
    of the 18 caches at or near archeologic sites, then
    the article is blatently misleading.=20

    There was no mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out
    program and the good it has done at many cache sites.

    One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact that
    there are numerous other sources of information about
    archeological sites that can be used by those intent
    on plundering.  A quick search found the following
    books available at Amazon.com that most likely mention
    remote sites.

    1. Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to
    Archeological Sites and Museums in Arizona, Southern
    Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by Franklin Folsom,
    Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel Folsom
    (Illustrator)

    2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: An Archaeological
    Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad Melton
    (Editor)

    3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by James
    Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson Reid

    And finally, there are companies that provide tours of
    Arizona's backcountry and point out such sites. =20

    http://www.pinkjeep.com/
    "History enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity
    to visit Authentic Native American Ruin sites, a very
    unique Sedona tour."


    http://www.archaeologicadventures.com/=20
    "We offer our guests the unique opportunity to probe
    the mysteries of the past, to touch history and feel
    it come alive while participating in a hands-on
    working field program to map and record unexplored
    archaeological sites."

    Bob Renner

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby you just did that so Wyle can get =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;Just so you are not taken by =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will make them public again when =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>We will be known by the tracks we leave behind</DIV>
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>I found the newspaper article very one sided and =
blown<BR>way=20
    out of proportion.&nbsp; I think it was written with<BR>the intent =
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    grabbing attention and selling papers<BR>and not with the intent of=20
    providing true and accurate<BR>information.<BR><BR>It did not =
mention if any=20
    of the archeologic sites<BR>were open to the public such as Libby's =
Casa=20
    Grande<BR>Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache =
at<BR>Sears-Kay=20
    ruins near Seven Springs.&nbsp; If those are any<BR>of the 18 caches =
at or=20
    near archeologic sites, then<BR>the article is blatently misleading. =

    <BR><BR>There was no mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out<BR>program =
and the=20
    good it has done at many cache sites.<BR><BR>One other thing that =
wasn't=20
    mentioned is the fact that<BR>there are numerous other sources of=20
    information about<BR>archeological sites that can be used by those=20
    intent<BR>on plundering.&nbsp; A quick search found the =
following<BR>books=20
    available at Amazon.com that most likely mention<BR>remote =
sites.<BR><BR>1.=20
    Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to<BR>Archeological =
Sites and=20
    Museums in Arizona, Southern<BR>Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by =
Franklin=20
    Folsom,<BR>Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel=20
    Folsom<BR>(Illustrator)<BR><BR>2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: An =

    Archaeological<BR>Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad=20
    Melton<BR>(Editor)<BR><BR>3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by=20
    James<BR>Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson =
Reid<BR><BR>And=20
    finally, there are companies that provide tours of<BR>Arizona's =
backcountry=20
    and point out such sites.&nbsp; <BR><BR><A=20
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    enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity<BR>to visit Authentic =
Native=20
    American Ruin sites, a very<BR>unique Sedona tour."<BR><BR><BR><A=20
    =
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mysteries of=20
    the past, to touch history and feel<BR>it come alive while =
participating in=20
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    unexplored<BR>archaeological sites."<BR><BR>Bob=20
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