FW: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin Mapsource for Etrex Legend or Vista

Bell, Robert listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 8 Apr 2002 15:35:27 -0700


Larry, 
   Nope you're right, I mixed in the Terrain Navigator info with the 
Garmin info.  I've probably confused everyone, but attempt to clarify
to Scott and anyone interested in buying Garmin GPS and maps:

1. Garmin topo maps are Garmin Mapsource.  Exclusively. The maps can be 
   loaded to Garmin Emap, Vista(?) (and a few others).  Only Garmin topo 
   maps load into Garmin GPSs.

2. Other topo maps can load waypoints, routes and tracks (but not maps)
   into Garmin GPS.

3. Larry uses Delorme Topo, on 8 CD for AZ.  I use Terrain navigator on 9
CDs.
   There are many others.

4. Garmin Topo Mapsource is 3 CDs:  East, West and Alaska/Hawaii.  Includes
all
   topo maps.  There are also international maps, road and rec, and street
atlas
   software available from Garmin.

5. According to Larry, all 153 maps in AZ on Garmin's mapsource consumes
30MB
   of memory.  So approximate about 5 topo maps per MB of memory (8MB would
   allow about 40 topo maps, or about 1/4 of the state.  If you got a Garmin

   with 32MB of memory, you should be able to fit the maps for the entire
state 
   of AZ on the GPS.


Thanks -
Rob
Team CHUMP

-----Original Message-----
From: Farquhar, Larry [mailto:larry.farquhar@ipni.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:00
To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com'
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin Mapsource for Etrex Legend or Vista


Robert,

Are we talking about the same software? Garmin's MapSource line of software
used by Garmin GPS'?

It wouldn't be the first time I've misunderstood something (right Trisha?),
but Mapsource will only transfer information to a Garmin GPS. There isn't an
option for a NMEA transfer to any other brand. Mapsource automatically
detects what model of Garmin GPS your using and the version of the software
in the GPS. Other brands of software will transfer NMEA information to/from
the Garmin, but mapsource can't transfer with any other brand.

My Mapsouce Topo maps are only 4 CD's for the ENTIRE USA. (East Coast, West
Coast, Alaska, and Hawaii). When you select maps to be imported into the
GPS, the file size is provided. The program will even report if you exceed
the installed memory that it automatically detects. Selecting all 153 topo
maps that cover the entire state of Arizona consumes 30.8MB of memory.

My "Delorme" 3D Topo for Arizona takes 8 CD's.

Okay Trisha, tell me where I'm messing up again at. :)

Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.happy-wanderers.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Bell, Robert [mailto:Robert.Bell@eclipsys.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:35 AM
To: 'listserv@azgeocaching.com'
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin Mapsource for Etrex Legend or Vista


Scott -
    yes, the Garmin topos do go to 1:100,000.  The maps are older but still
useful.  Garmin does sell proprietary software, so while I believe (although
haven't tried) you should be able to exchange and plot NMEA info, but
markers and specific non-coordinate data would not exchange unless you use
Garmin software.  That is not Etrex specific by the way, but Garmin
specific.  Maps fall into 
that category as well obviously.  Garmin only works with Garmin, surprise,
surprise.  (FYI, you may remember I use the etrex summit)

I have borrowed a eMap and can tell you that on average, the Garmin maps for
AZ are about 500MB in size.  You can fit about 1 CD of 
the state of AZ on at a time (there are 7 maps to topo AZ in this software).
Some of the newer Garmins have more memory, but I think you can sort of rule
of thumb 8 MB to 1 CD for Garmin.  

If you are at the Georally, I can show you some of these features, I have
the topos loaded on my laptop and use that with the GPS 
connected for real time locator (make your own Northstar basically), until I
purchase an emap, rhino, or equivalent.  It's pretty slick. You can download
from Snaptek (thanks guys!) all the cache waypoints and plot as well as your
own waypoints in less than a minute.  
It's a real timesaver.

Rob
Team CHUMP

P.S. I passed you on the stats page this am!  :D (grin)
     (if only for a day or two)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Nicol [mailto:arizcowboy@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:59
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Garmin Mapsource for Etrex Legend or Vista


Howdy All,

Speaking of software...

Is anyone using the Garmin Mapsource CD software with their garmin Etrex 
(legend or vista) GPS?

I hear it is the 1:100,000th scale. (7.5' topo's are 1:24,000th).

What I am wondering is... does the software, when downloaded, look exactly 
like the real 1:100,000th topos? I have been curious to here some 'reviews' 
on it as I am looking to purchase mapping software so I can put some topo 
maps in my Etrex Legend.

I have also heard that the Garmin Etrex (or other Garmins) only except 
downloaded maps from Garmin's Mapsource? Is this true? I have heard I can 
use other mapping software to download waypoints and routes and stuff, but, 
only Mapsoure will actually download maps.

Finally.. are there any other Etrex Legend or Vista users out there that 
have the Mapsource (or other if so) topo maps in their GPS's? Exactly how 
much is 8MB of maps? Is that enough for the whole state of AZ or only a 
given area?

Thanks!

Scott
Team Ropingthewind


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