I’ll get into a more detailed response as time permits, but I do resent to a certain degree the implication that this is intended to be cash flow for someone. Jake will probably come up with a response before me, since it was his design concept, with him asking me for opinions on various aspects of it.

Brian

Team A.I.

From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of ShadowAce
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] 2007 Arizona CITO Coin

Great pimping for the cache and for all the Phoenix people. BUT.... If this is going to be another ARIZONA coin, maybe it should be more ARIZONA and less Phoenix?

What?? Well lets see, the coin mentions Brian's cache, but not any other CITO?

What about the 6 Cito's in Tucson? Thats one every 2 months. Can Phoenix claim this? Last Phoenix CITO was a year ago

What about GCVPRN ? Casa Grande Cito?
GCYA3Y? Prescott Cito?
GCVYMD? Flagstaff Cito?

Arizona has multiple areas adopted by cachers and while it is great to see your advertising for your spot, Please do not call it THE arizona Cito as it is in no way supporting or mentioning the people who have actually been doing the Cito's for the last year. Phoenix cachers have been driving over 100 miles each way to join in the CITOs for Alamo wash and I think that deserves regonition.

Maybe we need to create an official Arizona CITO coin for us. Then we can have multiple Official coins and represent the people who are going out to cleanup without creating a cash flow for someone?

On 2/20/07, Jake Olson <jake.teamai@gmail.com> wrote:

Brian created the cache to go with the the fact that cachers are the ones cleaning the section of the highway. He is the current owner of the cache, but a few of us still here in Arizona are maintaining it by proxy. Any issues that have come up regarding it, he's forwarded to me and I've promptly taken care of it.

As for a LE version, Brian just pointed out to me that perhaps we need a Limited Edition that has a more pronounced hand jesture emphasizing exactly which "finger" is being displayed. (the image was the best I could come up with showing a GPS in use.)

Jake - Team A.I.

On 2/20/07, Jared Ross < jaredmross@yahoo.com> wrote:

I think it's a great idea and the overall design looks good. There are two things that I would question (but not necessarily change)

1. At first glance I thought the "hiker-guy" on the sign had a very powerful middle finger. I thought maybe he was hiking to a new cache and noticed Tim from AZFastFeet already signing the log for the FTF. :)

2. I'm not huge on the C.I.T.O. Always cache being mentioned on the coin. Mostly because what if, God forbid, that cache became archived? My opinion on this one is pretty loose though, I have yet to find that cache so it may be very safe from archival.

I'd most likely buy one. Will there be a LE coin similar to the Arizona geocoins?

Jared of AZBliss02

----- Original Message ----
From: Brian Casteel <bcasteel@uccinc.net>
To: AZ Geocaching < az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:41:19 PM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] 2007 Arizona CITO Coin

This idea has been tossed around for a little while, since it so
strongly ties into caching and one of the more important tenets of
cachers and CITO.

2007 Arizona CITO Coin < http://www.geocoin-info.net/CITO/index.html>

IPB Image

Right now we're only gauging interest in the coin before proceeding with
the rest of the minting process. Please visit the URL above for more
information.

***Update***
Jake smacked me around about this a little bit late this afternoon,
because I posted the concept on the Groundspeak forums first instead of
here.  Oops!  I was on the GC forums for something else and the thought
came to me so I ran with it.  At any rate, here's what has been designed
and the purpose right now is to gauge interest in the coin before
proceeding.  The initial run figures are pretty low (250), but
additional minting can occur if demand warrants.

What do you folks think?

Brian
Team A.I.

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