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[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of ShadowAce
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007
6:15 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Only
an altoids tin!!
Scott,
With all due respect. Oct 25, 2005 4:02 PM you sent email about how
Micros were evil and now that you had finally reached the top find counter in
the state you were not going to be going for micros any longer. How only Urban
caches had any reason to exist and people should help stop the spread of micro
spew.
Yet a very large percent of your cache finds are micros even after the
posts about how Micros should go away. 1114
terrain 1 and 735 difficulty 1
according to the stats you placed on your profile. While I am sick of
lamp poles and guard rails myself, I merely pointed that story out because of
how many people caching in
If cachers want to place a micro every 600 feet they will. If they throw
caches out with no intention of ever maintaining them, they will. Why? Because
every other cacher is writing 'Great cache, thanks for the hide' and not
writing....
I was able to grab this cache quickly though
I had to shield the location with my rear side from the dumpster divers.
or After sifting through the garbage left by
the homeless in the area, we found your cache.
Never would have known about this
place, because we generally avoid dumpsters.
I have been trying to be very honest in my logs about areas
such as these and instead of getting 'Hay thanks for warning me that place was
going to be so terrible', I receive emails saying 'Why are you such an ass? If
you dont like the cache, dont go find it!'
Welp the problem with this is from the writeups you have no idea if it
will be a real interesting place such as the one we found last night called
Hope, or in a pile of trash until you get to the location.
So instead of complaining about the TYPE of cache, I was merely pointing
out that Permission should be obtained on ALL cache hides. Heck I spent 2 years
getting permission for one place. 4 weeks to get permission for another cache.
5 weeks of emails to get permission for one location and then other people just
throw more caches in the area when they came.. Yep I caught hell from the
person that granted me permission to place mine after that.. Joy joy...
If people hate micros so much, why do they continue to grab them and
write 'Thanks for the fun'?
On 2/9/07, Roping
The Wind <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The geocacher who placed the altoid tin says he "wished others had told
him
this was not a good place to put a cache". I can only laugh at that
statement. The gc.com site clearly states that you
must get permission to
place a cache on private property!!! Did he not read that little tidbit of
information? Typical of alot of urban cache hides. Is he now trying to put
it onto the geocaching community as a whole? Making the whole game/community
look bad?
I do agree though that law enforcement over reacted... kinda like the little
The other thing that comes to my mind is that he is relatively new to the
game and this is most of what he has seen so far... a bunch of altoid tins
behind stores and on electrical boxes and the like. So, he might have
thought it was totally ok to hide a cache like this... even though, as I
mentioned before, he should have gotten permission to place it in the first
place.
I do like this quote though: "I've discovered that I really don't like
urban
caching. I'd rather do it in the woods. That's where it's really fun," he
said.
As of the past month and a half now, I have not found an urban cache hide. I
dont mind going a week without finding a cache anymore. But I have decided
that I only want to do rural area caches. Caches that require a hike to get
to or maybe a nice 4x4 drive or maybe just a drive by cache placed in a
beautiful location way outside the city limit signs. Or maybe caches placed
in small towns is ok too. Basically, caches placed with the location in
mind. I have been using the DGP geocaching site lately to pick and choose
caches to find.
The past month or so, I have found a much greater enjoyement for the game
again. It feels like the old days of caching 4 or 5 years ago when I first
began. I can't say I will never find an urban cache again. But I am
carefully picking and choosing which ones I want to find.
Scott
Team Ropingthewind
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