I will add my 2 cents worth now. I was downloading PQs using zip codes for different areas of the state, until Shadowace taught me his method of 9 PQs a week and in a short while I have a database of 3687 caches. Its not every cache in the state, but enough to keep my busy for a long while. I to use GSAK as my waypoint management tool. It imports my PQs and I can sort them just about anyway I want to. With GSAK, you can send them directly to you gpsr and in my case to my palm pilot also. I highly recommend GSAK. Paul aka "AZPAUL" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koch, Dan" <Dan.Koch@Eclipsys.com> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Another new feature at GC.comAs you said Brian...New tricks. 'In the past' just isn't going to cut it anymore. I always recommend GSAK. For those that don't know, it's kind of a combination EasyGPS (waypoint management) and Watcher (cache details management). It'll download your .gpx files out of your POP email account for you and will export into any of several output formats (NG Topo included) as well as into Garmin and Magellan GPSs. Besides, who really needs a listing of all 3000 caches the state everyday.And what's wrong with caches in NM...or CA... or ... LazyK - Dan -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf OfBrianCasteel Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:11 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Another new feature at GC.com Outside of considering your e-mail application a 3rd-party application, I don't see any more than one application being required to get them into a mapping program. PQ-->E-mail-->EasyMPS-->MapSource, at least in my case. There are other applications I can choose to use depending on how I wanttosetup my hunts, which doesn't really bother me all that much. I can use Watcher if I want to look at EVERYTHING about the cache, then can filterbydirection/distance/difficulty/hider/etc...and save a custom .gpx that Icanuse for both Cachemate and EasyMPS to import into my Garmin MapSource application. Heck, some applications directly import .gpx applications. I'm all about finding solutions until something better comes along, since complaining only reduces my caching time. Also, there just doesn't seem to be any benefit in continuing to rehashhowit was 'in the past', since it's obvious that at this point, the past isnolonger going to occur, unless you have fashioned a flux capacitor and ownaDelorean (sp?). Adaptation is much less time consuming in the long runthanonly hoping that the past returns. Brian Team A.I. -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf OfRopingThe Wind Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 3:56 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Another new feature at GC.com I was thinking the same thing... was just wondering when someone elsewouldchime in! :) The gc.com team data downloads (PQ's) are NOT user friendly. It requirestheuse of more than one third party software. I'm glad I am not into the numbers anymore or I would be pulling my hair out withoutazgeocaching.com'sSIMPLISTIC team spec downloads! Scott Team RTWFrom: Team Sprocket <scottsparks1@gmail.com> Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Another new feature at GC.com Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:39:14 -0700 Brian wrote:You could easily do the same thing with PQs. For example, mark coordsforseveral points throughout the state, ensuring that there is guaranteed overlap, minimizing as much as possible to ensure you get the complete/accurate results. When the PQs are downloaded, load EasyMPSandyou can double-click each of the PQs and load several, then opendirectlyinto MapSource. The newer version of EasyMPS will allow you to select multiple .gpx files and open them with fewer steps too. Of course,thisisa Garmin-specific nifty feature, but what can you do?Let's review: Step 1: For example, mark coords forseveral points throughout the state, ensuring that there is guaranteed overlap, minimizing as much as possible to ensure you get the complete/accurate results.This in itself is more complex than it sounds. If I select point A andsetmy PQ for a 50 mile radius and then point B with the same radius,allowingseveral miles of overlap, but there turns out to be 600 caches within 50 miles of point A, my PQ will only show me 500. Even if Point B overlaps,ifthere are 480 caches within 50 miles of point B, chances are I may onlyget20 (or even 40 or 60) of the 100 caches missing caches from the first PQ. With cache locations being dynamic, I see no way of ensuring fullcoveragewith 100% accuracy Step 2: When the PQs are downloaded, After I wait 24 hours, or up to 6 days, depending when that PQ was dowloaded last.... and assuming you don't need more than 5 PQ's (the daily limit)tosecurely cover the whole state. Step 3: load EasyMPS Another 3rd party program to clutter up my HD... Step 4: you can double-click each of the PQs and load several, Step 5:open directly into MapSourceDon't own it / Never heard of it / Does not compute / "I can't let you do that, Dave" / Won't work with my GPS... (unlike NG Topo!, which isn'tbrandspecific.) It takes a little more initial legwork, but I don't think that's anybigdeal.A little??... I'll stand by my initial observation. "I can't see an _easy_ way to dothiswith PQ's." As I said before, sure it can be done... but it ain't easy. Heck, I'm already maintaining a map of all my unfound caches now that is less complicated than above but still isn't as easy as selecting a check box labeled, "All caches I haven't found in [select state]." -- Sprocket____________________________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you arenotifiedthat the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message isstrictlyprohibited. 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