Well, this is kind of why I don’t log finds at all.  The whole competitive numbers thing just doesn’t float my boat.  Suppose that I go out cachine today with a friend.  We are in the same car.  We are working together.  We head for a cache, park the car, and hike to it together.  (There will probably be a hike.  I don’t do urban caches.)  We arrive there at the same time.  You want us to maybe flip a coin?  Well, no flipping way.  We found it together.  It is a co-find.  I see nothing wrong with that.

Bill in Willcox

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From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of TEAM 360
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:12 PM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers.

[rant] Now, just what in the heck is this garbage about "Co-FTF" or a "Shared FTF" I have been seeing on cache pages lately? Just when I thought I saw it all, another new way to inflate the numbers comes along. What a cheatin' way to pump up the FTF count!!

Listen, there is NO such thing. The cacher who signs the logsheet FIRST should be the only one to claim the FTF. The other cacher is SECOND-TO-FIND. It is a fact of cache-finding that cannot be changed.

Anyone claiming a "Co-FTF" or "Shared FTF" casts doubt on the rest of their caching record, in my opinion...of course, so do the people who hide caches under sock puppet accounts and then go claim a find on them, or people who claim finds because they simply "got close", or did maintenance on a cache and posted another find on it, etc, etc...the list goes on and on... [/rant]

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