Sorry, Apryl,  can't speak for urban areas.....

Trisha

----- Original Message -----
From: "Apryl Clark"
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott/Chino Valley Cachers(EspeciallyHamcachers)
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:38:08 -0700

Just for a note re: stuff that should be on a map and isn't...my house or rather my neighborhood doesn't exist on many maps...wonder when it will?? And I'm in "downtown Phx".

Apryl


>From: "Trisha Brasher" <trisha@brasher.com>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott/Chino Valley Cachers(EspeciallyHamcachers)
>Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:48:35 -0700
>
> >From my experience in SAR and mapping the back roads of Yavapai county
>(we call them "Field Patrols"....checking the maps by actually going on
>the sometimes alleged roads and seeing what is really there or NOT
>there....and updating our map system) you can't always count on the roads
>on a topo. This is not to say that the roads DO exist and are passable in
>this case, on the west approach to this location near Chino.
>
>I have several interesting stories about finding roads that are on the
>map but are not real, in lovely places like the Copperopolis topo (for
>those unfamilar, that is south of Wagoner Rd and north of Castle Hot
>Springs SW of Prescott, and literally the middle of nowhere.) After
>having trouble with the fuel pump, my driver looked at me and said "Get
>(the other team) on the radio and direct them to us to tow us out, and
>plot the shortest route to pavement." It was 9 miles to pavement, with
>one Jeep towing the other for part of it. It was a long day, in which I
>used my map and trusty Garmin 12 to get us out. I love this stuff.
>
>I'd say that if the directions you were given have you coming from the
>east, thru Chino Valley, go with that route. It's likely to be accurate.
>Of course, exploration and adventure is always fun if time is not of the
>essence.
>
>You can still come into Prescott the way I recommended (Iron Springs Rd)
>and then go north to Chino thru several routes thru or around Prescott.
>If you need directions (to get to north SR 89) let me know.
>
>Have fun at the Field Day! I've done a few, they are fun!
>
>Trisha
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Team Tierra Buena"
>   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>   Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Prescott/Chino Valley Cachers
>   (EspeciallyHamcachers)
>   Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:36:38 -0700
>
> > The routing to that location may be complex. That side of Chino has
>some confusing roads....Steve, have you been there before, do you
>have/need directions? Is there > access from the west side via Williamson
>Valley Rd? (Coords are close 'nuff)
>
>First, thanks for the cache recommendations in your other post. I
>actually did work a Field Day from that site once, but it was in the
>years BC (Before Caching), so I’ve forgotten the route. I’ve got a map
>from the club. The map on my Garmin seems to track pretty close to it,
>but they only give directions from the east.
>
> >From Williamson Valley Rd., Topo indicates you can head north on North
>Star, and then wind your way northeast on Morgan Trail until it runs into
>Wind Rock. Take Wind Rock north a bit until you can turn right and head
>due east on Morgan Trail again. Then south on Blue Star to the site,
>which will be on the west (right-hand) side of the road.
>
>If anyone is interested in directions from Prescott: Go north on US 89
>about 12 miles from downtown. Turn left at the McDeath and head west on
>Road 3 N. That curves north and becomes Yuma. Then turn left on Pheasant
>(north of Dove), go south on Cherokee, west on Morgan Trail, and south on
>Blue Star.
>
>DISCLAIMER: The directions above have no warranty, express or implied,
>regarding their accuracy. Your mileage may vary. Side effects may include
>dizziness, nausea, walking around in circles while holding portable
>electronic devices in your hand, or an incessant ringing of the Morse
>Code characters for “CQ FD” in your ears. If you or your partner have an
>erection that lasts more than four hours, see your doctor; I don’t want
>to know about it.
>
>Steve
>
>Team Tierra Buena
>
>
> >
> >
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