I agree, this unfortunate death is a very very sad occurance. A real eye-opener for anybody who thinks "oh, it's only a short hike" and doesn't take the basics with them. In our search and rescue posse, we are required to have a pack ready at all times with the "ten" (+) essentials and gear we need. We are not allowed to exit the vehicle to search on foot (no matter how short we think it will be) without our packs, which include our hand held radios. Common sense says that is a good idea for anybody. Just yesterday, my daughters tried to talk me into a 1.2+ mile hike (one-way) down a steep canyon to get a cache (Money Drop). My girls don't have the concept of the necessary "UP" when looking "DOWN"! I had not planned any hike-caches so therefore did not have packs, boots, etc (we had water in the truck of course) so I had to tell them NO, No, several times (Teenagers!!). Even tho' it was not as hot at this higher elevation, it is still a recipe for disaster to venture out unprepared. My sympathies go out to this man's family. What a shame. Trisha "Lightning" Preskitt AZ Jim Scotti wrote: > > Sad to hear about the death of a fellow geocacher. Good reminder of > the > dangers of being out in the backcountry. I'd guess that the rates of > cachers > getting into trouble will be similar to those of regular hikers. > Besides > those of us who are a bit more aware of the dangers, there are many > who are > relatively inexperienced outdoors amoungst our number (I'd guess just a > little bit less than amoungst the average hikers, but probably not > that much > different). We also have that extra incentive to get to the cache > which > might make us a little too vulnerable to the "go fever" syndrome that > could > take us a little too far. Good to remember that we are all human and > there > are many ways nature can get you. > > Jim. > > On 3 Sep 2002, Brian Cluff wrote: > > > Does anyone know if this is the first geocaching to die while > > geocaching? > > This is the first that I can remember. Considering the number of > > cachers in the world, that would make us some of the most resposible > > people out there. > > Or in other words we take plenty of water so that we can make sure > that > > all the garbage that we are hauling onto archeology sites actually > gets > > there, and we get back home save, so we can trash another site on > > another day. > > > > Brian Cluff > > Team Snaptek > > > > On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 17:09, ken@highpointer.com wrote: > > > The geocacher who died this weekend due to heat-related causes in > Orange County, California was Mike Curtin, who went by the user name > of FHR Rangers. The death was reported by geocacher seminary7 in a > posting on the Groundspeak forum. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Az-Geocaching mailing list > > listserv@azgeocaching.com > > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > > http://www.azgeocaching.com > > > > Jim Scotti > Lunar & Planetary Laboratory jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu > University of Arizona > Tucson, AZ 85721 USA > http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/ > > _______________________________________________ > Az-Geocaching mailing list > listserv@azgeocaching.com > http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > > Arizona's Geocaching Resource > http://www.azgeocaching.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Although no one can go back and make a brand new start, Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _______________________________________________ Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching Arizona's Geocaching Resource http://www.azgeocaching.com