I'm assuming alot here, but I visited one such cache twice. First to DNF it and then to find it. On my first visit, I found myself trying to look behind a metal sign nailed to the establishment itself. I may be wrong, but it looked as though previous cachers (myself included) had looked behind the same sign and coincidently caused an ever so slight bend in the sign. I figured the cache was gone and I went home and read the clue. I returned and the cache was 10-15 ft away from the sign. I've seen that at these establishments they have a lot of flair/decoration on the outside of the building and also overhanging roofs. My guess is that the overhanging  roofs lower the accuracy of GPS's and cachers inadvertantly end up looking in the wrong spots (like the metal sign) and accidentally break things. It may not have happened in AZ, but lets just say that somewhere in the US, someone placed a 4 star cache under the overhanging roof. Then things suddenly get damaged. Then the
 manager reports the repeated damage to the higher ups and the higher ups say "ok thats it. no more geocaching". Just a possibility.<br><br>Josh<br>simpjkee<br><br><b><i>Gale &lt;sonoralovesmommy@yahoo.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> We did both of them. Rather enjoyed those 2 caches. <br><br><b><i>Guy Aldrich &lt;graldrich@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> I obtained permission from their CEO for my wife to place those caches<br>in this state ! I'll have to contact the CEO again to see whats going<br>on.<evilfish@cox.net><br></evilfish@cox.net></blockquote><br><br><div> <div> <div> <div> <div>Tsegi Mike and Desert Viking</div> <div><font color="#6633cc"></font>&nbsp;</div> <div><font color="#6633cc">Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable
 changes<br>&nbsp; On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:<br>"Something hidden.&nbsp; Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --<br>&nbsp; "Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go!"</font></div> <div></div> <div><font color="#6633cc"></font>&nbsp;</div> <div></div> <div><font color="#6633cc">Rudyard Kipling&nbsp;,&nbsp;&nbsp; The Explorer&nbsp; 1898</font></div></div></div></div></div><div>           </div><hr size="1">Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! <br><a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48223/*http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now</a> (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.____________________________________________________________<br>Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com<br>To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit:<br>http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching<br><br>Arizona's Geocaching
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