Thanks for the screenshots Dirk! The terrain shading would make it well worth the $30 by itself, rather than just looking at a flat 2D map. Brian Team A.I. _____ From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of ShadowAce Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:33 AM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Anyone using Garmin Topo 2008? Not that it really matters I guess but it is still Squaw Peak according to the USGS GNIS database as well. So that might explain why mapping software still labels it as such? I believe it might have to do with the fact that it was never officially renamed (on a federal level). The renaming was a local thing done in Arizona but not fully supported or signed off on the federal level. After the local naming was allowed by the Arizona Board of Geographic and Historic names, the federal Board on Geographic names was not in agreement.. Ah heck, here is the June 2007 report on Name submissions that covers all this... Officially it is Squaw Peak. So Garmin will name it as such .. http://geonames.usgs.gov/docs/dockets/ReviewList395.pdf Swilling Peak: summit; elevation 795 m (2,608 ft); in the City of Phoenix, within Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Area; named for John "Jack" Swilling (1830-1878), one of the original founders of the city of Phoenix; Maricopa County, Arizona; Sec 2, T2N, R3E, Gila and Salt River Mer.; 33°32'50"N, 112°01'15"W; USGS map - Sunnyslope 1:24,000; Not: Piestewa Peak, Squaw Peak. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=33.54726 &lon=- 112.0207&datum=nad83&u=5&layer=DRG&size=l&s=50 Proposal: to eliminate a name considered by some to be derogatory Map: USGS Sunnyslope 1:24,000 Proponent: Al Bates; Prescott, AZ Administrative area: Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Area Previous BGN Action: None Names associated with feature: GNIS: Squaw Peak (FID 11741) Local Usage: Piestewa Peak (local residents; Arizona Board on Geographic and Historic Names; City of Phoenix; Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Department), Squaw Peak (local residents) Published: Piestewa Peak (City of Phoenix; Phoenix Mountains Park and Recreation Department; local hiking guides; IndianCountry.com; Navajo Times, 2007), Squaw Peak (USGS 1954, 1978, 1988) Case Summary: The new name Swilling Peak is proposed as a replacement name for Squaw Peak, a prominent summit within the City of Phoenix. With an elevation of 795 m (2,608 ft), the summit is the second highest point in the Phoenix Mountains and it has been designated a Phoenix Point of Pride. The current name has appeared on Federal maps since at least at least the 1950's, but is considered by many to be derogatory. There have been several previous efforts to change the summit's name, but none were successful. In April 2003, the Arizona Board on Geographic and Historic Names considered and approved a request by the Governor of Arizona to rename it to Piestewa Peak, in honor of Pfc. Lori Piestewa, a resident of Arizona and a member of the Hopi Nation, who had died one month earlier during the conflict in Iraq. In researching this proposal, the AZBGHN determined that the change to Piestewa Peak had the support of the Inter-Tribal Council of Arizona. However, the BGN was not permitted to consider the request at the Federal level, citing the restrictions of the Commemorative Naming Policy that does not allow a commemorative name for a natural feature until the intended honoree has been deceased at least five years. The proposal is being held until March 2008, the five-year anniversary of Ms. Piestewa's death. Although the AZBGHN's renaming of Squaw Peak to Piestewa Peak has the support of many area residents and the new name is now shown on many local and State maps and products, there are a large number of other residents of Phoenix who do not endorse it, either because they do not believe the longstanding name Squaw Peak is derogatory, or because they object to the way in which the 2003 proposal was handled by the State. Citing these objections, this new proposal, to rename the summit to Swilling Peak, was submitted by a local historian. An online account of Swilling's life, authored by the proponent, provides the following: "Born in North Carolina, he moved to the New Mexico and Arizona Territories around the 1850's, pursuing prospecting and mining for newly discovered gold. By 1860, with the onset of the Civil War, he joined the Arizona Guards. Rather than report for disciplinary action, he and several others deserted from the CSA. He arrived in Phoenix from Prescott, Arizona, with friend and colleague Darrell Duppa in 1867. In his travels as a rider and scout for the Union, he had been fascinated with the ancient Hohokam ruins and artifacts, especially the extensive network of canals the ancient Indians had dug to irrigate their fields. His concept was that the old canals could be re-built for modern farmers, and that the soil of the valley could support highly productive farms. Within a very short time, the Swilling and Duppa team had water flowing in a canal. By January 1, 1868, Swilling's home area, where up to fifty more pioneer homes had been built by this time, was known as Pumpkinville - so named for the impressive growth of pumpkins Jack had earlier planted along the canals. Darrell Duppa suggested the name Phoenix--for much like the mythical Phoenix rising from its ashes, a new civilization would soon rise from the ashes of an old. Swilling died in jail of natural causes while awaiting trial for a stagecoach robbery he did not commit." There are two other geographic features in Arizona already named for John Swilling. Swilling Butte in Coconino County was the subject of a 1932 BGN decision, while Swilling Gulch in Yavapai County was a name found in local use and presumably so named because of its proximity to Swilling's ranch. The two features are located 299 km (186 mi) and 61 km (38 mi), respectively, from the summit in question. Basically prepare to climb Swilling Peak because it looks like that is what the name might become. On 8/30/07, Guy Aldrich wrote: I'm surprised Garmin is still calling it Squaw Peak.