Here’s my take on this…

 

As I’ve understood it, Jake originally created this artwork more as a personal gift to me, intended as thanks for getting the Adopt-A-Highway program started and for the CITO Always cache itself.  But he took my positive response and turned toward making a coin design out of it instead once the realization hit that it would make a great coin design.  At at that point, he bounced ideas off me and I gave him input, which he then took into consideration when working up the design.  Not once did I interject and make this to be all about me, and never intended to either.  It really wouldn’t have made any difference to me if CITO Always had been adopted by someone else and still used as a reference, but since others agreed to keep an eye on it for me; I maintained ownership of that cache.  In fact, the only way this coin design references me is if one goes and looks up the information for the cache that’s 25’ from the sign and notices who the owner of the cache is.

 

Again, as stated on the page and my initial post, there have been no steps taken beyond the artwork being created.  It was posted merely to gauge interest in the coin.  If the design proceeds to a coin being produced, I suppose the reference could be changed to address a region rather than a state.  It’s not THE Arizona CITO coin, but A Arizona CITO coin.  I didn’t catch where you got that reference at first, but see it posted on the actual page for the coin concept.  I think that was more of an error in word choice than anything, because I always saw it as a great design and one of the more appropriate geocoins to go into production, given the mass influx of coins that have absolutely nothing to do with caching.

 

If there is desire for some sort of official Arizona CITO coin, then great.  I still think this one should be made, but under a different banner of sorts.  At the same time, aside from the coordinates, nobody else outside of Phoenix would really know (or care) that the sign used as the basis for the artwork was in the metro Phoenix area, except for those cachers in-state aware of its existence.  For all the rest, for all they know the sign could be in Lake Havasu, or Willcox.  It became a design that identified with Arizona Geocachers in general, but references a specific cache that is still active.  When I filled out paperwork to get that section adopted, I made the name a general reference to give props to ALL Arizona Geocachers, but just as easily could have said “Phoenix Geocachers” or “Central Arizona Geocachers,” but I wanted to give recognition to everyone in general.  Fortunately, the area has required less maintenance over time because cachers who attend those clean-ups do a wonderful job and the trash didn’t have a chance to pile up anymore.  That doesn’t go to say that other CITO events aren’t just as good, because I know for a fact they are.  The original intent of the program I applied for has been marred by ill feelings of unknown origin.  Last I checked Dirk, you and I had a pretty good relationship so I’m surprised at how you jumped on this issue and took offense.

 

Please keep in mind the original intent I had when applying for the Adopt-A-Highway program.  Location of the sign should be irrelevant.  Remember what the sign itself reads.  Also, if you read the coin page itself, any extra funds (if any) that came from its production would go right back into highway cleanup events, or could even be diverted to another CITO effort somewhere else. 

 

Brian

Team A.I.

 

 

 

Great pimping for the cache and for all the Phoenix people. BUT.... If this is going to be another ARIZONA coin, maybe it should be more ARIZONA and less Phoenix?

 What??  Well lets see, the coin mentions Brian's cache, but not any other CITO?

 What about the 6 Cito's in Tucson? Thats one every 2 months. Can Phoenix claim this? Last Phoenix CITO was a year ago

 What about GCVPRN ? Casa Grande Cito?
 GCYA3Y? Prescott Cito?
 GCVYMD? Flagstaff Cito?


 Arizona has multiple areas adopted by cachers and while it is great to see your advertising for your spot, Please do not call it THE arizona Cito as it is in no way supporting or mentioning the people who have actually been doing the Cito's for the last year. Phoenix cachers have been driving over 100 miles each way to join in the CITOs for Alamo wash and I think that deserves regonition.

 Maybe we need to create an official Arizona CITO coin for us. Then we can have multiple Official coins and represent the people who are going out to cleanup without creating a cash flow for someone?