Nope, if you give a real, useful hint, I would expect to be required say I couldn't find the cache before getting anything more.

Jared Ross wrote:

I guess I should have clarified a bit more. Often I'm contacted for a hint before I even have a chance to contact the cacher (probably because I specifically tell them to contact me for an additional hint after posting a DNF). I don't believe I've sent a hint to someone without asking them first. I usually contact them and ask what area they were searching and if they'd like a hint or like me to check on it.

So do you think I'm being prejudice to out of state cachers by saying that you must log a DNF before receiving an "additional" hint. Keep in mind that a helpful hint is already given.

Jared

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From: AZcachemeister <azcachemeister@getnet.com>
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:36:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] decrypted hints

This is my biggest problem with 'log a DNF...' or 'Email me if you need a hint'.
It's like a big red flag saying, 'This cache is for locals only, if you're from out-of-town, forget it!'
My biggest gratification is getting a log on one of my caches from someone who thought it was interesting enough to include while they were on vacation/visiting Arizona.
Giving a good hint is an art, and not always easy. A good hint should spark a thought, or at least narrow down the possibilities, but shouldn't just spell out the cache location.
My favorite hints for 'remote' caches have warned me to watch for dangerous wildlife, or admonished me to bring plenty of water...too late now, I'm already here!
Oh, and I never 'automatically' send a hint if there is a DNF, some cachers don't want them! If I want/need an extra hint, I'll ask...

ShadowAce wrote:

 So log a DNF to get a hint is better in your opinion. While I hate driving 200 miles round trip to log a DNF to get a hint. Thus making it a 400 mile round trip cache.

 Sometimes people forget that others who do not live within 10 miles of the cache may come looking for it. On more then one occation we have been caching across the states (not just in Arizona) with no computer access for a few days and we cannot log a DNF until we are 200 + miles from the location. That hint is going to be extremly helpful at this time.

 Naw, its better to be able to give your friends a hint via phone calls and anyone else can suffer cause it's fun.

On 1/24/07, Jared Ross < jaredmross@yahoo.com > wrote:

Jared missed the point, I guess. I thought you were saying that we didn't need to put hints because we could just call someone instead. My bad.

Oh, I'm aware of worse "hints" than the email for a hint ones. I require a DNF to be logged before extra hints are given, but I don't encrypt it in the hint section, that would be mean.

Jared

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