On the flipside, taking the few moments to ask someone if they have a permit could have positive results if you’re LE.  We all know that there are more than enough jerks out there who are too lazy/cheap to go to the landfill, yet manage to drive 50 miles to the middle of nowhere in order to dump their junk.  Catching/stopping someone to take the few moments necessary to confirm the permit could either result in catching one or three of these people, and the fine they incur would far exceed the cost (if any) of going to the landfill like they should have in the first place.

 

Hell, if you’re out there in the first place, why wouldn’t you enforce the law?  Illegal dumping certainly contributes to lands being closed to public access, and putting bigger blinders on in order to ignore the reality that it is, is truly disappointing.  Besides, it’s simply something that should be done, and out of respect for the lands I enjoy visiting, I happily paid the annual permit fee.  Case in point…I watched someone practically dump half an engine in an area I like to 4-wheel (this same area had been closed a few years earlier due to illegal dumping, but reopened).  When he woke up the next morning, it was back in the bed of his truck.  J  I could have reported it and had it dealt with that way, but this was more fun in this instance.  Bulldog Canyon is another one.  I went in through the south entrance one day and picked up on some people ‘cooking’.  As soon as one of them knew what was up, one of the three cars there came screaming down the dirt road, and I had just locked the gate, with the Ranger had just rounded the corner.  Want to bet on whether or not the remnants of their lab would have been packed out with them?  Granted, Bulldog Canyon isn’t State Trust Land, but the point is still made, and a permit is required for motorized vehicle access.

 

 

Brian
Team A.I.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, you can bet if I catch you out on state land, I'm not asking if you have a permit. Don't want to know.Stuff like that is for pencil pushers. I have real crimes to worry about.

---Jon

Bob & Linda Smith <Lrsmith@cableone.net> wrote:

When I was active with the Volunteers In Protection (VIP) in Yavapai county
the Sheriff's deputies would stop people and ask for the permit. Just how
often it was asked for I don't know as I was not on patrol with a deputy at
the time. I figure it is cheap insurance and I keep ours up to date.

Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite, Prescott

----- Original Message -----
From: "AZTech"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] State Land Department Interactive Map


> Just curious, but has anyone on the list ever been askdd to show their
> permit? I always make sure I have mine, figuring I'll be 'lucky' enough
> to get caught otherwise, but have never seen anyone 'official' while on
> State Trust Land.
>
> David - AZTech
>

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