Thanks for the info, I will check with garmin tomorrow. Wrong coordinates on an urban micro is one thing, but on an Apache Trail Canyon hide is something else. Terry wogunhiker _____ From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Team Tierra Buena Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:30 PM To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] coordinate confusion If you do have the latest firmware, you might try calling Garmin's support. If you can wait the typical 15-30 minutes to get through to a rep, they're usually helpful. At least it's toll-free: Monday - Friday - 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. Central time (closed holidays) - 1-800-800-1020 - 1-888-442-7646 Monday, of course, is the worst day to call. Another option is to email them from http://www.garmin.com/contactUs/techSupport.jsp. Steve Team Tierra Buena -----Original Message----- From: az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of wogun Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 18:53 To: listserv@azgeocaching.com Subject: [Az-Geocaching] coordinate confusion Today we ran a pocket query of Apache Junction caches and downloaded the info into our Garmin 60 CS. We also downloaded the same file into a pda. However, the coordinates in the Garmin did not match the coordinates on the PDA for one particular cache. I checked the cache description on line and the PDA matches what is on line. The Garmin is wrong. This has actually happened more than once. Usually it is just an inconvenience and we catch it right away. Today it cost us an hour of searching in rough terrain at the end of a hike and we did not find the cache. Can any one explain what is happening?