Yes, Joe, you are right. It's too bad these threads have to dive so deep into such depths of negativity. :-[ I suppose to an outsider we probably sound like a bunch of screaming pre-schoolers. >:o I'm blaming it on a case of mass cabin-fever, brought on by hot weather and high gas prices. Joe Brekke wrote: > Given the recent posts on this list serve, I just wanted to share > something with the members of this list. > > I met recently, a couple who were new to Geocaching at a cache here in > the Portland area. It was a multi-stage and we were walking out as > they were starting it. I noticed them and struck up a conversation. > After talking for a few minutes, I said goodbye, and we went on. I > was contacted by them because they did not find the cache. I told him > where he went wrong and this opened up several e-mails between us. > > Their team name is Bandmaster. He has retired as a Bandmaster in the > US Army. He had several questions of a technical nature on his Garmin > 60CS and PDA's. I don't profess to be anything of a technical guru > but know that several on this Listserve are: > > The following are exerts of our recent e-mails. > > Bandmaster: > > I remember that you and I have the same Garmin gps. Right? How do you > like it? Any tips on its operation? I've been looking for someone > who knows how to download clue sheets to a PDA. > > My Response: > > I love my 60C. > > I do not have a PDA, so I have never downloaded them I just print it > to a piece of paper just like you have done. I'm just not good with > PDA's, so I don't use them. For people that do use them there is a > way to do it, as long as you match software. I can probably put you > in touch with some people that can tell you how to do it. I subscribe > to a geocaching listserve...in Arizona where I used to cache. _They > can be a great source of technical information...often really > terrific_. They do have their quirks, but a lot of them are great > technical sources. The link to this site is: > > ttp://www.azgeocaching.com/index.html > you can check out the > site there. If you subscribe to the mailing list then you can post > a question. I've never had any viruses or any problems with spam due > to this list, so it's pretty safe. You can ask anything and get some > pretty good answers. Usually you will get a 3 or 4 responses, and > then you can just privately e-mail the person you choose to > ask...usually the post from the person will give you a link to their > e-mail. I can tell you that a really good source for information on > the Garmin 60C is a guy named Brian Casteel. There are several > sources that can help you with the PDA question as well. Occasionally > the posts can get quite childish, sometimes people get their feelings > hurt, _but the technical information from some of them can't be beat > and is a lot better than I can give you_. You can check it out, and > if the infighting gets too much for you, just unsubscribe from the list. > > Bandmaster: > > Great info Joe! My model is the 60cs, probably an added feature I > haven't used yet. You gave me good resources too. > > My point is that these e-mails between he and I started on the 22nd. > If he joined on that day you all know the type of messages he has > received from this list. In light of this, I truly hope that he > didn't take my advice and join...even though I warned him that the > possibility existed that he would come across some thread like this. > I don't think that is something that is ever thought through when > e-mails are posted to this list. Think of someone who was a new > subscriber and they came right into this yet again unproductive toxic > thread - usually off topic that gets started from an e-mail...though I > do realize this wasn't totally the case here. The point is that > something like this continually occurs. The AZGeocaching.com web site > says there are 300 members on this list. I'm pretty sure that close > to 90% of the posts come from less than 20 of these members. > > One of the threads on this Listserve in the last few years has dealt > with extending a hand to new Geocachers and acting as mentors and > inviting them to this list so that they can see what a wonderful > community we have. Ok, can anyone say that the discussions they have > seen the last couple of days on this Listserve has in any way served > as an ambassidorship or helping hand to new Geocaching members? Have > these threads been something that we as mentors to new members should > be proud of? I have to say that I'm not, and Bandmaster if you did > actually subscribe to this list, I apologize. My intent was not to > get you involved in this mess. > > Joe - TeamBlunder > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >____________________________________________________________ >Az-Geocaching mailing list listserv@azgeocaching.com >To edit your setting, subscribe or unsubscribe visit: >http://listserv.azgeocaching.com/mailman/listinfo/az-geocaching > >Arizona's Geocaching Resource >http://www.azgeocaching.com > >